DVD for Linux 103
platinum wrote to us with the news that folks at the Internationale Funkausstellung in Berlin are showing a board for Linux that will allow DVD under Linux. Specs for the board are on the site, and the board should be availible towards the end of the year-December, probably.
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:2)
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
Re:Agreed (Score:2)
Re:TV???? (Score:1)
http://www.bombcar.com It's where it is at.
Re:All right! (Score:1)
check out The Linux USB page (http://www.linux-usb.org/) [linux-usb.org] for info on USB and Linux.
https://www.mav.net/teddyr/syousif/ [mav.net]
Re:Agreed (Score:1)
Re:Agreed (Score:1)
Re:Glad to see... (Score:1)
I'm just wondering why no one has looked at developing Linux drivers for the Hollywood Plus, since you can get one from several on line sources for less than $100.00 US.
Just MHO.
Re:Now I'm glad I waited (Score:1)
The new computer will be better suited for multi-media applications. The Pentium should make a great fileserver.
Thanks for the suggestion though. The advice is appreciated.
Re:Configuration ... Gatos (Score:1)
It rocks.. it works with almost all ATI cards that have TV support
ChiefArcher
Re:Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
1)dvd player +2.2" CASIO TV (yes, 2.2 is fine by me the one I have has 600,000+ pixel. I really bought this for the baseball playoff.)
$500+100
2) dvd +Sony Glasstron! simulates 38" screen in front of your eyes! 500+500, too rich for my blood, also I was turn off by mix review of glasstron (can't view too long; some people can't use it; LOOK LIKR AN ALIEN IN NEW YORK SUBWAY --why can't Sony make a rayband style glass?)
3) My libretto + portable 2X dvd and a PCMCIA card, I only need to invest 500 more.
This is a very good solution, one thing that stops me is the DVD price. I watch a lot of movie every week, I have like 7 video rental cards in my pocket and I know all about their discount policy. For DVD rental I had to feed 3.7 to blockbuster. (there is another thing is that I really want to catch all the "Law and Order" and I don't believe the old movies I'm renting form the central libriry has release in DVD format yet.)
4) So I finally find out this dream solution. It's light, this flexible, it can tape tv and movie in incredible resolution and brother, I can't afford it.
http://bhphoto.com/video/sony%20prosumer/gvd300
It cost at least 1200 but blow out dvd format. Well maybe I'll buy it in two years.
5) Cheap bastard solution, a beat up used 8mm camcoder+ portable TV, but they all heeavy, so forget about it.
have fun
Re:Linux hardware? (Score:1)
Why don't you ask all companies making those lame WinModems?
It is idiotic to direct peripheral hardware at a particular operating system, but it does occur. I hope this is Linux only just to show other companies up. Of course, since the drivers are open source it won't be long before somebody from the Windows community makes it work with the dreaded OS.
I think that would be refreshing... a windows person having to hack a driver!
quality of this board? (Score:1)
Re:Is this just for Linux? (Score:1)
Rumor is that the programs will be user-level and not kernel-level, so i'll have noooo problem with them on my freebsd box and linux-compat.
Why hasn't this been moderated down yet?
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
Man, what an incredible experience. Very nearly as good as going to the theater itself, Certainly better than either TV or PC monitor. Full 16/9 projected on the wall across the room, no aliasing, not pixelation. Basically his sub $1000.00 PC was keeping up with over $30,000.00US of dedicated home theater equipment, as far as visual quality went.
With the new ATI and other cards coming out, using your PC as the basis for a high quality projection system becomes viable, and desirable. All of this stuff is available today, not 2 years from now.
Note: The new geForece 256 seems to have line multplication features built in, be interested to see how it will compare to the upcoming ATI home theater chip (aka ATI Rage 128 Pro).
Re:Hollywood Plus (Score:1)
Re:Piracy anyone (Score:1)
Their stupidity could ultimately hurt them more than plain piracy alone will. Piracy will always be around and someone will always find a way to get the intellectual property into a copyable medium. But if something other than a "copyright controllable" medium becomes popular in place of DVD, then the piracy will be larger than if they work to ensure that DVD is popular.
I do know a way to make DVD protected. It would even work for the plain old CD except for the fact that CD players without the technology would not be able to play anything at all, so this would only be good for DVD. And no, I won't say how it is done. I have to protect my own intellectual property, ya know
Re:Glad to see... (Score:1)
Next up for the lunge is either projector, gas plasma or at a push a rear projection set (but I might have trouble getting something *that* big up the stair to the flat.
M@t
One down, one to go! (Score:1)
The first is games and then only a select few (MechCommander, Shattered Light, and Diablo2 when it comes out). Even then I am currently in the process of getting these working under WINE.
The second is DVD! If they are able to get this going under Linux, then I will finally have one more good reason not to bootup into that degenerate OS.
I use StarOffice for work, I use Xanim/mtvp for viewing movies, X11amp and XMCD for music, Netscape for web-browsing, GIMP and XV for graphics, Xcdroast for duping and backups, lastly other small utilities for handling my network (firewall, IP masquerading, DHCP connection, etc.). I hope to god that I can add DVD to my list soon.
Re:Distro on a DVD (Score:1)
*snip*
...so I *could* just have been smoking some really good crack, but is there anybody out there who can confirm/deny?
I guess I must have the same dealer as you then
chris
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
Re:Hollywood Plus (Score:2)
pcmcia (Score:1)
This is great (Score:1)
...and what about software-driven decoders?
Also: Does anyone know of a PCMCIA Decoder/DVD-Interface on the same card? My laptop unfortunately only has one slot...
Re:Now I'm glad I waited (Score:3)
My advice is to get DVD. It's not much more expensive than a CD-ROM, and although you're probably not going to use the extra functionality all the time, it's nice to have it there when you want/need it.
Now I'm glad I waited (Score:1)
(The computer would dual boot between Linux and NT. There is still one program I'm stuck running on NT.)
Now I'm glad I've waited a bit. I can wait a bit more for prices to come down and by that time this board should be released.
This is very good news.
So far so good (Score:1)
I'll have to look around the shops around christmas time, might have some present requests
DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
Glad to see... (Score:2)
One thing I would like to see is region independance - both the creative card and the DVD deck I have are region free since I ship DVDs in from the States due the the
1. Crap prices in most UK stores (19ukp seems about average)
2. Dreadful release timetable - we seem to get releases way after video and way way after America gets the DVDs.
Out of insterest is there any legal requirement for these boards to support Macrovision - which I believe is only available as a licensed chipset - and if so is that a global requirement or is it per country?
Now if I can use my DVD on my new Dell I7k (Score:1)
new Dell I7K (Hardware DVD of course)
Re:All right! (Score:2)
a) complain to the hardware manufacturers for ignoring a large portion of their userbase by not releasing non-windows/mac drivers or making specs available to the Free Software community.
b) open up an editor and start coding some drivers for the parts that we do have specs for.
c) go back to windows or mac
BTW, USB is in the 2.3.x devel tree, which Linus has stated won't take near as long to go to 2.4.x (stable) as 2.1.x took. AFAIR, by the end of the year, if not sooner.
Re:Now I'm glad I waited (Score:1)
Re:CSS bypass (Score:2)
Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
How hackable is the board? (Score:2)
Re:Hollywood Plus (Score:2)
Hollywood Plus (Score:1)
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
Re:dolby 5.1 -> Pro Logic mixdown (Score:1)
Can't wait for DVD's on my Linux Box....
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:2)
Re:This is great (Score:2)
If the desktop Video4Linux-compatible hardware decoder sells well, I'm sure a PCMCIA version will follow soon. It costs much more to develop a PCMCIA card, though, so it's kinda understandible that they limited the risk by doing a desktop version first.
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Re:Is this just for Linux? (Score:2)
Re:Linux hardware? (Score:2)
Re:Linux hardware? (Score:2)
Re:OS'd? (Score:1)
Re:Linux hardware? (Score:1)
Re:Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
Nick
get a cooler laptop (Score:1)
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There are some benefits (Score:1)
Hmm... Ive just convinced myself to go out & buy a DVD drive!
DDS3 (Score:1)
Re:Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
My monitor is bigger than my TV, but then my "television" is an old 13" commie monitor (I just use it to watch videos). So my 17" monitor would be not too awful for watching DVD. Of course what I really want is a 16:9 aspect ratio monitor (35" of course, lets not think small), then I could watch movies as Buddha intended.
Re:Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
I've been getting fairly desperate -- I'm about to start experimenting with WINE and software decoders, but I have this odd feeling that it's not going to work in the least...
Lea
Re:OS'd? (Score:1)
Is this just for Linux? (Score:1)
Re:Glad to see... (Score:2)
Linux hardware? (Score:1)
indeed! but first... (Score:1)
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:2)
Re:Linux hardware? (Score:2)
Re:TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!!! (Score:1)
Agreed (Score:1)
"Trouble is, just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's true"
Re:DVD is still a year or two away.. (Score:1)
As for DVD on Linux, that is great! DVD drives could be accessed through their drive interface(SCSI or IDE) so DVD drives are still useful. The big problem is the mpeg decoder hardware. Oh well...I'll just to use my dedicated, stand alone player to watch movies I guess.
dolby 5.1 -> Pro Logic mixdown (Score:1)
Will it support the 5.1 channel output?
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Re:Benefits of DVD on a desktop machine? (Score:1)
1) Some DVDs ("You've Got Mail", "Lost in Space", and "The Matrix" to name a few) have PC features. Of course they don't run on Macs, and who knows if Wine will work, but those running Win can view that material.
2) As noted, increased resolution is a factor. Although a computer monitor may be smaller than your television, the picture is better.
3) Progressive scan. Because Macrovision is lawsuit happy, the only way I know of to get progressive scan output is through some video cards. If your TV is capable (or better yet, your projector is capable) of progressive input, you get a better picture with no line doubler.
4) If you want a second system (like a lot of people have second VCRs) it may be more practical, especially in a small bedroom, to just use your PC for DVDs instead of taking up room with a PC (with monitor), TV, and DVD player.
Re:CSS bypass (Score:2)
PS: if you're interested, have a look at http://windoms.sitek.net/~dvdsoft/dv dsoft.html [sitek.net]
Re:Software DVD for Linux? (Score:3)
Configuration (Score:1)
ATI All-in-Wonder128, DVD drive, Sigma DVD card, 5.1 decoder, SBLive.
I use the system both on the monitor AND the TV, in windows we watch DVDs on the TV, browse the web, listen to MP3z with the killer plugins, etc.. In Linux _I_ use the box on the monitor. No matter what, Linux is STILL being pushed aside.
ATI users only got TV support in Linux in these last few months (GATOS Rocks!)
No DVD in Linux beacuse the DVD Natzis won't make it so... I would buy, support, build, sell ANY linux-based "convergence" item just based on the fact that I know it'll WORK. We have TV, get on with the rest of "your" "convergence" would you!!!
I hate those damn buzzwords...
Already being done... (Score:2)
Nick