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Ubuntu Budgie Could Be The New Flavor of Ubuntu Linux (softpedia.com) 116

prisoninmate writes: Budgie-Remix maintainer David Mohammed informs Softpedia about the progress made with the upcoming operating system, whose ultimate goal is to become an official Ubuntu Linux flavor, possibly under the name of Ubuntu Budgie. Even Canonical founder Mark Shuttleworth said in a Google+ comment last month that it will definitely support if there is a community around the packaging. Since their initial report, it looks like the developer managed to get in contact with the Ubuntu MATE project leader Martin Wimpress, who urged him to target Ubuntu 16.10 for an official status of his soon-to-be-named Ubuntu flavor built on top of the Budgie desktop environment created by the team of developers from Solus Project.
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Ubuntu Budgie Could Be The New Flavor of Ubuntu Linux

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    "Bubuntu".
    Just saying.

  • Great summary (Score:5, Insightful)

    by chispito ( 1870390 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:20AM (#51844825)
    It would be nice if, in the summary, you told me what makes "Budgie" different from every other kind of Ubuntu.

    Side note: Is it really a good idea to distinguish your Ubuntu flavor with an animal? I know it's not "Bodacious Budgie" or something along those lines, but it could be confusing nonetheless.
    • Re:Great summary (Score:5, Informative)

      by LichtSpektren ( 4201985 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:26AM (#51844877)

      It would be nice if, in the summary, you told me what makes "Budgie" different from every other kind of Ubuntu. Side note: Is it really a good idea to distinguish your Ubuntu flavor with an animal? I know it's not "Bodacious Budgie" or something along those lines, but it could be confusing nonetheless.

      Budgie is a DE, like Xfce and GNOME: https://solus-project.com/budg... [solus-project.com]

      The Ubuntu flavors are differentiated by their name (Xfce: Xubuntu, KDE: Kubuntu, etc.), and the animal names designate the release number (16.04 will be "Xenial Xerus" for all of the flavors).

      • It would be nice if, in the summary, you told me what makes "Budgie" different from every other kind of Ubuntu. Side note: Is it really a good idea to distinguish your Ubuntu flavor with an animal? I know it's not "Bodacious Budgie" or something along those lines, but it could be confusing nonetheless.

        Budgie is a DE, like Xfce and GNOME: https://solus-project.com/budg... [solus-project.com] Thanks! Wish I could mod up insightful. The Ubuntu flavors are differentiated by their name (Xfce: Xubuntu, KDE: Kubuntu, etc.), and the animal names designate the release number (16.04 will be "Xenial Xerus" for all of the flavors).

        • Tried to say thanks. Not sure what posting rule of Slashdots that I broke such that my comment was removed. Should have looked at the preview closer.
          • You can't find your comment [slashdot.org] because it looks almost exactly like its parent comment [slashdot.org].

            You added just one sentence, in the middle of the comment. Otherwise the two look very similar.
          • by fnj ( 64210 )

            Not sure what posting rule of Slashdots that I broke such that my comment was removed.

            Your comment wasn't removed at all, but you screwed up the formatting. You quoted the entire thing so it looks exactly like you're just parroting somebody without adding anything. How did you let that get past the preview?

      • by Anonymous Coward

        The Ubuntu flavors are differentiated by their name (Xfce: Xubuntu, KDE: Kubuntu, etc.), and the animal names designate the release number (16.04 will be "Xenial Xerus" for all of the flavors).

        So, Bubuntu? :)

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        Budgie is a DE

        And what is a DE ? Sorry, but two letter acronyms are ungooglable.

    • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

      Do you need us to define LMGTFY as well?

      • by Holi ( 250190 )
        No we need good references. Why should we do the editors work for them? Telling people to google stuff that should have been included is lazy and assholish.
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by hairyfeet ( 841228 )

      Its yet ANOTHER desktop environment, because Linux has such a shortage of desktop environments. I swear to God that DEs and fricking text editors seem to be the only damned things that gets made in Linux land anymore.

      Because that is what Linux needs to really take off, not a better Windows translation layer so it can run all the bazillion Windows programs that Linux has zero equivalent of, or a way to run Windows drivers so the mountains of hardware that doesn't work or works poorly and gets piss poor suppo

      • I only have a Windows PC because I wanted a Unity 3D dev box. Windows 10 is much nicer than 7 and 8.1.
      • Re:Great summary (Score:4, Insightful)

        by CastrTroy ( 595695 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @12:54PM (#51846573) Homepage

        What I don't get is why having a different desktop environment requires a whole different distribution. Why not just give the option when installing it instead of having all these supposedly different distributions with different names?

      • Because that is what Linux needs to really take off, not a better Windows translation layer

        You're surprised that linux users and developers are more interested in linux software than in windows software? Most of us never use Wine and have no interest in it. Linux development is not generally done as a marketing tactic to try to win over windows users.

        • And that is why you have no driver support from more than 80% of the hardware manufacturers, your GPU and sound drivers are frankly sad with features that Windows has had for nearly a decade not working or being half ass, your programs are nearly all bad ersatz clones of windows software...minus features said software had 8+ years ago, oh and even OpenGL, a technology that has been embraced by Linux for over a decade? Yeah I hate to break the news but programs written from the ground up to be OpenGL...run b

  • by NotDrWho ( 3543773 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:22AM (#51844839)

    No way am I buying an OS from them.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I've been following the Solus project for quite some time and had several conversations with the lead developer (Ikey - https://github.com/ikeydoherty). It's refreshing to have a project leader be such a stubborn advocate for the Linux desktop at a time when everyone else (or at least Canonical & Co.) are focusing solely on mobile and tablets. The vast majority of us Ubuntu users have slowly watched the desktop age and lack the attention it needs in the name of convergence - this could be the thing th

  • by LichtSpektren ( 4201985 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @09:24AM (#51844857)
    I see a lot of comments like "I would use Ubuntu but Unity sucks" or "I was an Ubuntu fan until Unity ruined it." If Budgie-Ubuntu becomes an official flavor, that will bring the number of officially supported DEs up to 7: MATE, KDE Plasma, Xfce (which is actually supported in two separate official flavors, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio), LXDE, GNOME 3, Unity, and Budgie. There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported. (See: http://www.ubuntu.com/download... [ubuntu.com] )
    • There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported.

      They need Cinnamon, end of story. They could have 100 different desktop environments, it doesn't matter if none are as good as Cinnamon. I just switched from Ubuntu to Mint (despite the security breach). Cinnamon is what a desktop environment on a PC should look like.

      • There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported.

        They need Cinnamon, end of story. They could have 100 different desktop environments, it doesn't matter if none are as good as Cinnamon. I just switched from Ubuntu to Mint (despite the security breach). Cinnamon is what a desktop environment on a PC should look like.

        There is a not-officially-supported Ubuntu ISO which is preinstalled with Cinnamon: http://www.cubuntu.fr/ [cubuntu.fr]

        Use what you like, I'm just letting you know :P

      • I've used KDE, Gnome2, Gnome 1.8, Gnome 3, XFCE, XPde, Unity, Enlightenment, and IceWM as primary DEs for extended periods. The best one I've ever used was Gnome 3. I interact with it the least: when I need to do something, it happens quickly and efficiently, and I'm on a new desktop with whatever window I need doing whatever it was I was trying to do instead of playing with the DE.

    • by fnj ( 64210 )

      number of officially supported DEs up to 7

      This is a bit of a carp, but I find this kind of thinking, and the whole concept of distro "flavors", mildly annoying. The number of "officially supported" DEs equals the number of DEs packaged in the official repos, period. I don't know precisely what that number is, because there is a lack of descriptive indexing of exactly what is in the repos, but there is certainly no dependence on having a "flavor" differentiated

    • I see a lot of comments like "I would use Ubuntu but Unity sucks" or "I was an Ubuntu fan until Unity ruined it." If Budgie-Ubuntu becomes an official flavor, that will bring the number of officially supported DEs up to 7:

      All of them corrupted from cold POST by systemd. #DeckChairs

    • Ubuntu: An ancient African word meaning "too pragmatic to install debian".

      Ubuntu has some innovations such as launchpad integration and PPAs but I can't say I miss much running Mate on upstream debian.

      (it's Canonical's non-desktop development that holds some interest - I might give Ubuntu Touch another try on my phone once I file a bug on network-specific 3G data support.)

  • Apparently it's a new DE for the next Ubuntu LTS release and forward.
    Here's a project link [launchpad.net].

    It has the vibe of a Korora [kororaproject.org]/OzoneOS or Elementary [elementary.io] ripp, both of which look way more mature than this "Ubuntu Budgie" thing.

    I don't get the buzz.
    Looks like a project in pre-alpha stage, if you ask me.

  • How does Budgie-Remix compare to Lubuntu [lubuntu.net]?
  • Ubuntu lost me a long time ago when they started doing everything their own way despite the cries of the community. If anything both Ubuntu and Android has taught us it's that an operating system simply being open source is not enough to guarantee user freedom. The Arch Linux philosophy is to provide the core services of a Linux distribution and then get the fuck out of the way. Other projects can then build their idea of an OS on top of the Arch core. If one flavor of Arch gets out of control we can move o
    • That's really only been an issue for Mir, and I think Canonical turned out to be right on that matter: they're now selling converged-desktop mobile devices with Mir, whereas Wayland is still alpha-quality. In the other cases: Canonical actually invented Bazaar before git became the norm, and they've since switched to git. They dropped Upstart in favor of systemd.
      • by tom229 ( 1640685 )
        There's many more differences than this. While doing my linux systems administrator certification some time back I remember continuously running into disclaimers: if you're certifying with Ubuntu the process is a bit different. They have their own display manager, they manage config files for many popular applications differently, and they've shown a general culture of trying to lead the pack into whatever their vision for personal computing happens to be at that time. Virtually all software companies do th
      • they're now selling converged-desktop mobile devices with Mir, whereas Wayland is still alpha-quality.

        Wayland works pretty well on my phone. What's alpha about it?

  • Ubuntu Budgie Could Be The New Flavor of Ubuntu Linux

    I prefer albatross flavor [wikipedia.org].

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @10:35AM (#51845373) Journal
    Yesterday there was a thread about some popular Chrome extension. The original developer who built trust sold it out On March 23. The buyer loaded it up with malware, session hijacks, routing through shady proxies etc. Took about 2 weeks for Google to eventually pull the extension off. In the comments I saw some android apps too have the same issue.

    Now what happens when a distro developer builds a loyal following and then sells out?

  • ... another Windows Start Menu clone.

  • "Show me your budgies."

    "Budgies? Budgies? We don't need no stinkin' budgies."
  • And then you can call it "Ubuntu Budgie Smuggler"

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