Songbird Drops Linux Support 356
An anonymous reader writes "The Songbird developers have announced that they will no longer support Songbird in Linux. This is really a shocking announcement, as Songbird has its roots in open source. Songbird will, however, continue to be available for Windows and Mac."
In their blog post on the subject, the developers said, "We remain loyal to Linux and the ideology it represents, so we will maintain a version of the software for use by our Songbird engineers who develop on the Linux platform. We’ll make that version available to the community. We will keep Linux build bots and host the Linux builds on the developer wiki. That said, those builds will not be tested and may not pick up new features developed by Songbird’s team."
Help in TFA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Not once in TFA or the summary does it say what Songbird does.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:4, Insightful)
Neither does the original story.
What's Songbird? Who cares ...
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Funny)
and in other news, my mate Dave said the 12 line shell script he uses for grabbing entries from /var/log/messages won't be get ported to Windows
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Informative)
This is rather important in my opinion, and I find myself recommending these kinds of programs (Firefox, Open Office, VLC, Gimp, Pidgin, etc), because when a computer illiterate friend learns a program like this, they are less locked into their OS. They can use them on their Macs at work, their Windows at home, and Linux if they happen to stumble on it, and they'll feel comfortable with the same familiar programs.
Songbird is far from perfect, but it is an easy switch from iTunes (it can keep the iTunes library in sync with its own), has more features (with some excellent addons) and plays more file types. So now I'm looking for the next platform independent player / organizer to recommend.
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It looked and acted the same irregardless of the platform.
"Irregardless" [wikipedia.org]. Shut up... you cuntsniff.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Funny)
When I had two machines with two OSes it was nice to have Songbird look the same irregardless. It could play most of my music irregardless of the file type. Now I'm a fan of OSS, but irregardless I couldn't use Songbird for too long because it resembled iTunes too much - almost like it was trying to be a substitute irregardless of being a music player. However it did have on-the-fly playlists so irregardless of its flaws it did have its good points.
Irregardless I kept using it because it was nice. But then I started using other file types and, irregardless of my feelings for Songbird, I had to part with it. Irregardless of what a "music player" is, I need mine to have CD ripping.
Don't get me wrong: I don't give it ill regards, less I suggest to people it's a bad product, but if it doesn't have enough of the right features I can't use it - irregardless of its age.
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Big fan of the world irregardless huh?
On topic though, personally Songbird just never did it for me. The interface looked nice visually (I actually love the iTunes interface and would probably use iTunes if Apple supported a Linux release). The problem was that it just didn't do what I needed it to. It didn't support podcast syncing. It didn't support iPods on Linux. It also crashed more often than I'd like.
Personally, right now for my media player I pretty much just settled on RythmBox. It's not perf
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Helps you sleep at night by filling your room with the sound of doves and seagulls, but only if you use Windows or Mac.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:4, Insightful)
Helps you sleep at night by filling your room with the sound of doves and seagulls
Speaking as someone who lives near an area with a fair number of seagulls, I can assure you that (a) they are definitely *not* songbirds and (b) having frequently to shut my window due to the noise of those fuckers, I can assure you that it's the *last* thing that would help you sleep at night.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Informative)
Songbird is a music player and library organizer similar to iTunes or Winamp. It's based on the Mozilla Firefox Gecko framework. It inexplicably uses about 130MB of RAM while idle.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Funny)
It inexplicably uses about 130MB of RAM while idle.
Thanks, that's all I needed to know!
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Funny)
Well they wanted to have feature parity with iTunes.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:5, Funny)
Yet I'm running iTunes right now and it's using 47 MiB of RAM while playing a 192-320 kbps VBR mp3 from a 8000+ song library. Clearly they've surpassed iTunes, I need to download Songbird right now!
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Just checked my iTunes/Mac and it has 122MB resident, not doing anything. Clicked a bit around, it's now 156MB. I have less songs than you have.
Re:Help in TFA? (Score:4, Interesting)
Just checked my iTunes/Mac and it has 122MB resident, not doing anything. Clicked a bit around, it's now 156MB. I have less songs than you have.
Although that's not likely to strain a new-ish system, it's still a lot of RAM in absolute terms. Rhythmbox on Ubuntu 9.10 uses just under 41MiB of resident memory with a 25GiB library of 5300+ music files loaded. This includes a number of plugins enabled, such as for cover art and support of various external players.
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Why? Were you forced to install it?
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I wouldn't say OSX, Windows, or Linux have gotten this one yet...
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Re:Help in TFA? (Score:4, Informative)
Since it is UNusable by other processes, I fail to see the difference.
*facepalm*
mmap()ed memory is both usable by other processes in the sense that other processes can mmap the same file, and usable by other processes in the sense that it's not necessarily all in actual, physical RAM (and will never be in swap).
It's more or less the difference between "This program has opened a 1 gig file for reading and read a single byte" and "This program uses 1 gigs of RAM". Does that make it clearer?
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Wow, for a Gecko-based (actually xulrunner-based!) program, that’s very little.
So it’s basically Amarok, in slow, with an inexplicably low memory usage...
The last time I tried songbird, it was horribly slow, had a really badly designed interface (more “stylishness”, lest “actually usable”ness), and was just all around crappy.
I’ll keep Amarok. TYVM.
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130 mb of ram while sitting idle? Then it's perfect for windoze and osx....
So what are the alternatives for *nix users now?
dn
grep this: s/$your_beliefs/$common_sense/i;
My wife is using Foobar2000 for Windows which uses 12MB of resident memory. I used it for years as well but the browser is clunky so I switched back to Windows Media Player (30MB resident while viewing a list of album cover thumbnails).
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Sorry to hear about that, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
I've tried Songbird for Ubuntu each time a new release came out and frankly, it was a horrible experience.
I loved the layout of the software, but having to wait damn near a half hour (or more) each time I'd start it up to reindex all my music was annoying, to say the least.
I've ended up just sticking with Rhythmbox, which is OK,but I really did prefer the Songbird layout.
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I agree.
Back on XP, Songbird seemed like a stop-gap measure to avoid having to deal with the atrocity named iTunes, without having to ditch Windows. Songbird had a neat layout and nice features, but it was very apparent that it was still an early development version.
On Linux, there are many good media players and no reason to continue to use it. I switched to Rhythmbox on the day I installed Ubuntu.
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I tried Songbird, too. I wanted a music player with a modern interface that was cross-platform so I could always have the same expectations on Windows or Linux. Firefox and Thunderbird taught me the value of that. I was also frustrated with the slow loading times, however, and have found that I simply listen to music less often overall. In the end I've never found anything I've liked quite as much as Winamp 2.95.
Re:Sorry to hear about that, but... (Score:5, Informative)
>In the end I've never found anything I've liked quite as much as Winamp 2.95.
Then you will probably be quite happy with xmms ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmms [wikipedia.org] ) or audacious ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious_Media_Player [wikipedia.org] ). I know *I* am :)
If you want a heavyweight, feature-packed, system and not just a simple player, check out Amarok ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_(software) [wikipedia.org] ) or Rhythmbox ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythmbox [wikipedia.org] )
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Basically, what Songbird didn't provide was CD ripping. That is all I miss from iTiunes.
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You can do all the other fancy stuff like have multiple playlist tabs, organise your collection by tags, internet radio etc and it co
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Worse than iTunes, after years of active development. That's an impressive feat.
Alternatives (Score:2, Informative)
Rhythmbox, amarok, xmms.
So long, Songbird. You won't be missed.
Re:Alternatives (Score:5, Interesting)
XMMS 1.x is no longer supported and I hate the client/server model used in 2.x Amarok won't install without KDE and Rhythmbox is nearly unusable for my needs. Granted I am running FreeBSD. VLC is ok for most of my needs but I've been using Grooveshark [grooveshark.com] lately to bolster up my music collection.
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What needs do you have that Amarok satisfies but Rhythmbox doesn't? Just curious.
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Amarok won't install without KDE
What do you mean by that? It needs kde libs, what's the big deal? It's not like you need to install the desktop environment.
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Those libraries are what's keeping me away from Amarok. There are a TON of libraries that need to be installed in order to get Amarok going. I'd rather not install all the libraries for the sake of getting a music player working.
Re:Alternatives (Score:5, Insightful)
I fail to see why so many people using gnome hate anything that uses QT/kde libraries with such a passion. By doing so you are seriously limiting yourself and overlooking some nice software.
Amarok, k3b, k9copy (only decent dvd ripper I've found on linux suitable for recommending to others), konqueror (meh as a web browser but great for viewing local filesystem and sftp'ing with other machines, like a swiss army knife), kino for converting dv cam footage. etc.
The recent trend over the last few years for everyone to default to gnome and nobody having used any qt stuff seems strange to me, I always have both sets of libraries installed and use the best tool for the job.
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QT libraries are no problem, but KDE are. for starters, they usually screw up Brasero and the likes. Not to mention you have to load all that stuff and take more memory, etc.
If you just use k3b for burning, you wouldn't notice Brasero, Gnomebaker, Nautilus (cd writing) are screwed, or wrongly assume they are broken.
So the Widget libraries are not as much problem as the Desktop Environment libraries. I always prefer to avoid anything that depends on the opposite DE library of the environment I'm using. When
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I fail to see why so many people using gnome hate anything that uses QT/kde libraries with such a passion.
Because when run from a Gnome environment, they take a long time to start up, print a lot of crap, don't respect all Gnome preferences, look and work different, and start up extra processes that may or may not hang around.
I think KDE is a decent desktop, but I want to use one or the other and not both. And I generally prefer Gnome.
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I don't use either GNOME or KDE. The original argument, which you quote, is irrelevant in my case. I'm the one (along with more than a few others) with the issues installing Amarok because of all its dependencies; I already have gtk libs installed for apps like GIMP, Firefox, and a couple of other apps. I also already have a good deal of Qt installed. Installing the kde crude will just fill up my hard drive needlessly (not considering I can't even install half of them because of issues between mDNSResponder
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They don't want both vast sets of libraries eating up all their resources. Either Gnome or KDE is a resource pig, running a good chunk of the libraries of both is a nightmare.
I'm doing so on a machine made in 2002 as my main machine (don't game so don't see the point in upgrading) And I see no issue. Most people I know upgrade their machines a lot more frequently and place usability and functionality over 'oh noes, 100mb more ram in use'.
From what the proponents of gtk only systems say, you'd think that using qt takes up gigs of ram, it doesn't.
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I use Audacious simply because it sounds better than VLC, somehow VLC sounds hazy and dull even when using it's equalizer.
Further, any music application that enables me to remove my files by accident is a nono for me.
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> XMMS 1.x is no longer supported
When what you are after is called "Audacious" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacious_Media_Player [wikipedia.org]
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I'm using FreeBSD too, and find that taking a little time to script mplayer (no gui) and using find to write playlists (i.e. find ~/audio/ -name '*.mp3' > allmusic.m3u) is a great solution. Amazingly flexible, and takes far fewer resources than anything else I've tried. Read man mplayer for some ideas.
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Tried GMPC? Anyways, there are other MPD clients that you might like.
http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/Gnome_Music_Player_Client [wikia.com]
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What's wrong with XMMS v1.x? Are you doing something fancy that requires newer versions/alternatives? For me, v1.x is fine for playing MP3s.
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That program does have a total fucked up file requester. There is no way to write the name of the directory you want to load music from.
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Audacious* is a pile of crap. It's better than XMMS2, but I've found it's not only unstable but glitchy in other regards (eg. adding/removing files).
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MPD + ncmpcpp is all I need.
Not only is a nice player and light player, but it can also stream to other PCs, be controlled via Web (there's a nice web frontend for phones), scripts...
Re:Alternatives (Score:5, Informative)
I currently use Herrie where I formerly used XMMS and Audacious. It is a light textmode player that does everything I want. In fact, I originally wrote a textmode frontend for XMMS/Audacious simply because it was more convenient to use that way. Later it turned out to have other uses, for example controlling my media machine via ssh from my work computer.
My main problem with most music player software today is the idea of a 'media library'. In order to play a file, you first have to put it in the library. I understand such a database has its benefits, but to me it is unnecessary complication of a simple operation. In fact, I do have a custom script for managing music files burnt to DVDs, but in the unix spirit I like to keep thing separate, so I am free to use different players.
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I couldn't agree with you more. This is why I have always used XMMS, and recently switched to Audacious. I don't *want* something to "manage" my "library". I don't want a database. I don't want 1,000,000 features. I just need a simple, fast, efficient music player. And xmms/audacious do just that :)
(I do use Amarok sometimes when I need something more powerful... but haven't used it since KDE 4, since they totally hosed the user interface :( )
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My main problem with most music player software today is the idea of a 'media library'. In order to play a file, you first have to put it in the library. I understand such a database has its benefits, but to me it is unnecessary complication of a simple operation.
This. I work with sound effects and speech clips a lot, usually ones that I've been sent as part of a project, and one of the things I want to be able to do is play a bunch of short files quickly and easily, with no messing around. I used to use XMMS, but it kind of faded away. I use mocp a lot now, more recently audacious. Having to register something into a database when I only want to listen to it once just quickly to make sure the recording was okay, that's just a pain in the ass.
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I work with sound effects and speech clips a lot, usually ones that I've been sent as part of a project, and one of the things I want to be able to do is play a bunch of short files quickly and easily, with no messing around. I used to use XMMS, but it kind of faded away. I use mocp a lot now, more recently audacious. Having to register something into a database when I only want to listen to it once just quickly to make sure the recording was okay, that's just a pain in the ass.
I have worked as a theatrical sound designer/technician, and I have also used XMMS/Audacious, even in the final performances in some cases. However, for the kind of working stages you describe, I often use mplayer. Besides simply playing some number of files after another, it has a simple playlist where you can move back and forth.
During a performance, you can pause mplayer when a file has finished (but not quite moved on to the next one). Then at your next cue, you can simply press enter to start the ne
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My main problem with most music player software today is the idea of a 'media library'. In order to play a file, you first have to put it in the library. I understand such a database has its benefits, but to me it is unnecessary complication of a simple operation. In fact, I do have a custom script for managing music files burnt to DVDs, but in the unix spirit I like to keep thing separate, so I am free to use different players.
Which used to be the difference between Quicktime and iTunes for me when I used to use a Mac. The nice thing about those programs is one is one is 'media library' based, and one isn't. On the linux side it it is comparable to Totem vs Rhythmbox. Windows forces them to be together in WMP. Don't know about KDE, but I think they only use Amarok?
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But that's the thing: I use a DB based player for all my "resident" music (MPD & ncmpcpp), and mplayer for single files. I also have a script (playany.pl) to automatically add a link to a single file, run the MPD DB scanner and auto-play it, but it's not worth the trouble.
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"My main problem with most music player software today is the idea of a 'media library'. In order to play a file, you first have to put it in the library. I understand such a database has its benefits, but to me it is unnecessary complication of a simple operation. In fact, I do have a custom script for managing music files burnt to DVDs, but in the unix spirit I like to keep thing separate, so I am free to use different players."
Well, Rhythmbox "Library" is nothing more than manually changable path to fold
Community involvement (Score:5, Insightful)
There's a housing development not far from where I live that has draconian rules about "community involvement". In order to own property there, it is necessary to spend time on the board or doing board-approved activities. They have immaculate lawns.
I own my own property here, and I have no connection to any third party except the bank and the government. My lawn is a mess, but I welcome anyone who would like to mow it.
Isn't the spirit of Free Software about everyone pitching in and helping each other freely? Or did I misunderstand freedom to mean freedom for others to do work for me for free?
I see nothing in Songbird's announcement that is negative in any way.
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Isn't the spirit of Free Software about everyone pitching in and helping each other freely? Or did I misunderstand freedom to mean freedom for others to do work for me for free?
Open source is about a few people helping themselves and allowing everyone else to easily help themselves. This would be inventing an automatic lawnmowing system, letting everyone use the blueprints free, and allowing them to use their own resources to build the system.
However, in open source software, this last step is practically trivial and resource-free.
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Open Source != Linux (Score:5, Insightful)
Linux is open source. Open source is not Linux.
Its not really that shocking.
Maybe it is just because it has fierce competition (Score:5, Interesting)
So far on Linux desktop there have been three excelent iTunes like media players - Rhythmbox, Banshee and Amarok (last one mostly after features not gui). All three players excels in different ways, but what's important - they just work and I doubt we need more iTunes type clones in ui and functionality for Linux platform.
I know that Songbird guys are those positively mad people who did huge piece of dirty work to port Gstreamer to Windows and OS X and it shows what's their main priorities are. And that's fine, because Windows and Mac need a nice open source music player too (and ported Gstreamer framework of course).
solongbird (Score:5, Insightful)
Not long before the Windows and Mac development stops, too. This software failed to gain traction.
Performance Issues (Score:4, Interesting)
If there was ever a music player on Linux that was worse than the worst versions of Amarok, it's Songbird. Nice ideas, but it never ever did work correctly for me, and it wasn't for lack of memory or processing power. I kept installing it and removing it from time to time to see how it was going.
It's like they never tried getting it to perform correctly on Linux. Oh well.
Maybe it works better on Windows, but I'll never know since I never use that unless I absolutely have to.
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There is one with much worse performance: Banshee. And Ubuntu guys want to make it the default player in place of Rhythmbox...
Songbird Irrelevant Anyway (Score:2, Interesting)
In my opinion Songbird became irrelevant anyway the moment it dropped ipod support. I don't know how they think they can gain any semblance of marketshare, or cred for that matter, by dropping key features from it's codebase. It ran like crap anyway. Who builds a music player on top of mozilla?
Apparently they don't support much of anything (Score:4, Informative)
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I've got it running on Win 7 x86 and x64 without any issues or warnings.
Sadly I haven't been able to find anything better to replace it; it is terribly sluggish.
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J River's most recent app is shareware: J River's Media Center 14.x [jrmediacenter.com].
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It does not run well on Mac either. It is just a pretty sad application.
From my experience it's not a great loss (Score:5, Informative)
N.B. I am a Windows 7 user and it did say when I installed that Windows 7 was not supported.
I dropped iTunes out of my home setup a while back and thought I've give Songbird a go. I've been running it for about 4 months now and I have to say, in IMO, it is one aweful piece of software which I rarely use now. Barring the crashes (ack. NB above) its usability is pretty poor.
I hope others have hade better experiences with it.
I would feel bad about this... (Score:3)
...but I tried Songbird and it was slow, prone to crashes, and generally not very useful. Compared to Banshee, it just didn't work well enough. I don't like to see any company stop supporting their software on Linux, but I'm hardpressed to find anyone I know who uses Songbird anyway.
This is a sad thing at the general level of Linux software, but so far as usefulness goes, not that big of a deal to me.
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Bad form to reply to my own post, but here goes.
I just had a thought: this is exactly the way it's supposed to work. Songbird is a pretty bad player and I wouldn't imagine that many people are using it, so it dies.
I like the idea of natural selection. It works.
Serious question : Unix philosophy for music lib? (Score:2)
I think the unix philosophy says that life's complex tasks should be accomplished by a collection of independent utilities that interact well together. In particular, the library and player functionality must be separated. In fact, you want the same basic library tools managing all your big file sets, ala ebooks, pictures, music, movies, porn, etc., albeit using different column sets.
How can one best achieve this? Do we even have a good separate file library system that'll track diverse file attributes?
Not needed on Linux. Mainly useful on Macs (Score:2)
While Linux doesn't have a player I like as much as Winamp, it has many which are adequate. I tried Songbird on Linux, and cannot remember what I thought of it or why I didn't continue using it, so I guess I have nothing to regret if they drop Linux (where I mainly use gmusicbrowser [gmusicbrowser.org] now).
Songbird is mainly useful on Macs, where iTunes doesn't support Flac or many other formats, and there is not a lot of choice of music players as there is on Windows or Linux.
Songbird? Eh. Try Amarok (even for Windows) (Score:2)
I can see why Songbird wants to get away from Linux support.. sound architecture on Linux is continually evolving... which is surprising because that's been the state of Linux audio for about 15 years. Every other Linux distro release features a completely new audio backend (admittedly, with benefits) but this breaks audio support in a lot of applications. That was one of the final straws for me on Fedora (now I use Ubuntu which suffers the same problem, but hasn't created as much work for me to have to fix
But of course I can keep using it (Score:2)
The way it presents the music library made me listen to full albums again instead of constantly cobbling together impromptu playlists of isolated favourites-of-the-moment.
Too bad. But of course I can keep using it.
It is a reasonable position - but here's an idea (Score:3, Insightful)
It is perfectly understandable for a business to avoid spending a lot of money building a Linux-specific version.
However - what they should do is add Wine as one of their officially supported "windows" platforms. For example, they can guarantee that a stock Ubuntu 10.04 desktop will be able to load their software with just one pre-requisite: apt-get install wine.
Mark
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Just a day after I installed it... (Score:2)
Oh well, at least I actually tried it. So I can say that it works. It is one of the better music players out there, but I don't like it, since I cannot collapse the song title column which makes my 20,000 plus song archive hard to use.
Most music players fal over if you have a really large number of titles. So my fallback is to use the file manager and a double click to launch XMMS.
Oh well.
It needs to be said (Score:5, Insightful)
Desktop development of Linux has stagnated over the last 2 years. We have not seen anything but more fragmentation of the underlying building blocks and several high profile vendors have all said the same things. Adobe said the sound system sucks, Nvidia and ATI have complaints about X.Org windowing systems and in general while I love what Ubuntu has done, it "Appears" that they've dominated the direction desktop Linux is taking lately. I used to be impressed with every new build and the features it has brought, the last few releases bring nothing but yawns and maybe a new skin or some flashy effects, but nobody is addressing the more pressing issues of standards for underlying systems. I understand people want something customizable, but in the end you have to have standards so people who make you all these fun custom things can know what to expect when building them.
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Stagnated? With KDE transitioning to 4.x and developing quickly, and Gnome about to go to 3.0? With DRM2 and Gallium3d somewhere in the not so distant future? It hasn't stagnated at all, the main problem is that it's in a state of flux. It hasn't stagnated at all.
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I don't know about your HDTV, HDMI and DVI, but at least a friend's computer needed no configuring at all to get it to work properly in the correct resolution for his HTPC. Same kind of setup. It just worked (tm) with Ubuntu 9.04 IIRC, with no xorg.conf hacking. That's consumer grade, according to you.
Only a few years ago, every screen needed to be set up with correct modelines; it's a fairly recent development that you don't need an xorg.conf. The driver sets the correct resolution automatically in most ca
Re:Why the shock? 0% of the market is not worth it (Score:4, Funny)
Troll harder.
Re:Why the shock? 0% of the market is not worth it (Score:4, Interesting)
Old school Unix? MacOS? You must be joking?
I say that as an old SunOS user that ignores his mini that sits under the desk.
I might want to steal some Mac apps but that's about it. Really, I would be more interested in stealing some Win apps.
MacOS is for grannies that can't be trusted not to browse sites they've been told to stay away from.
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Re:Why the shock? 0% of the market is not worth it (Score:5, Funny)
Especially with so many of the old school unix types like me having migrated to OS-X
I call Shenanigans! A real old school Unix user would have:
a) Capitalized the 'U' merely out of respect
b) Waxed nostalgically about Unix (at least 3 full paragraphs)
c) Included "rm -SCO" or "sudo fuck SCO" in their post
As for me, an old school Unix user, I switched to Mac because it was the best computer I could steal. The old lady I took it from still thinks her toaster is the slowest screen saver ever.
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Neckbeards... Songbird...
Obligatory Family Guy reference [photobucket.com].
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I must say that I am totally underwhelmed.
This was by far my least favorite Linux media player of many.
Genuine diversity always helps ensure that your ecosystem does not collapse upon the death of a single member.
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>he hasn't heard of the media library pane in vlc
http://wiki.videolan.org/Media_Library [videolan.org]
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Really? I browse slashdot every day and have for the past 10 years and I don't recall hearing anything about "Songbird". I find it implausible that it's been widely heralded as the Linux iTunes alternative.
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Truthfully, I've more often found out about software releases (particularly for Ubuntu) through places like Lifehacker.
Really, Slashdot tends to follow other sites when it comes to news these days.
OS-Specific Work (Score:2)
From the actual blog post, I'd wager that the issue they're having is building out things that need OS-specific bits for each of the majors OSes. They don't have the resources to do all 3, so they are dropping the OS that has the least profit (the OS of least interest to other hardware and software partners because it has the smallest market share): Linux. Which makes sense. They'll still develop it out and include and test the OS-specific bits for Win and Mac, but either not develop them for Linux (in w
Re: (Score:2)
Not only nothing indicates the inclusion of DRM, has the sibling post has mentioned, but implementing DRM in an OSS application is even more pointless than with a binary-only app.
If Songbird implements DRM, anyone can simply take the source, disable the DRM, recompile and distribute.
Re:let the themknow how you feel then, uninstall! (Score:5, Insightful)
You're an idiot. What have you done to help them support Linux? I'm guessing nothing.
If you don't like the app, fine, but don't act like it's their job to support the platforms you use. It's your job.