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Gnome 2.30 Released 138

Hypoon writes "The GNOME project is proud to release this new version of the GNOME desktop environment and developer platform. Among the hundreds of bug fixes and user-requested improvements, GNOME 2.30 has several highly visible changes: new features for advanced file management, better remote desktop experience, easier notes synchronization and a generally smoother user experience. Learn more about GNOME 2.30 through the detailed release notes and the press release."
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Gnome 2.30 Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31, 2010 @11:39PM (#31697400)

    April Fools!

  • by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Wednesday March 31, 2010 @11:48PM (#31697456)
    I don't get it. Not even a peep about it being renamed to KNOME, or about KDE being renamed to GNU/DE.

    I mean, what the hell, Slashdot! Serious news? On this, the holiest day of the Geek Calendar?

    Seeing "support for Facebook chat, and new productivity features" in the same sentence was a pretty good start, but things just trailed off from there. I demand a punchline from this press release, or at least some enlightened puns about how to reduce the window manager's footprint!

    • Re:Headscratch. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by nmb3000 ( 741169 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @01:32AM (#31697888) Journal

      I mean, what the hell, Slashdot! Serious news? On this, the holiest day of the Geek Calendar?

      Gah. I think the best thing Slashdot could do this April 1st is to just do nothing at all. In addition to being a joke in itself, they would also be recognizing that they simply can never surpass OMG PONIES. Never.

      Using the Internet in general is just painful on the 1st. Everybody thinks they need to do a joke, whether they have a good idea or not, and most of the time it's just an old obvious "joke" that isn't funny anymore. People of the Internet: If you have a good idea, go for it. If not, don't bother.

      That said, XKCD [xkcd.com] has a pretty good one this year. Hint: Try "make me a sandwich" :)

      • by hcpxvi ( 773888 )
        And then (of course) try
        sudo make me a sandwich
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by PhilHibbs ( 4537 )

        Damn, rm -rf * doesn't do anything.

      • If you want to spoil the fun, all the commands are spelled out clearly in the source code (the link to which I'm sure you can find).

        Try "hello joshua" :)

      • I like it. I think more web sites should go to a CLI implementation.
      • Is it wrong that I prefer this style to XKCD's normal page?

        Or that it makes me want to go home to use my Linux box?

      • SPOILER ALERT (Score:2, Informative)

        Some command spoilers. I didn't look in the source, this was just some messing around:

        apt-get
        This APT has Super Cow Powers.

        apt-get moo
        (picture of cow)
        ...."Have you mooed today?"...

        emacs
        You should really use Vim.

        vi
        You should really use Emacs.

        hello
        Why hello there!

        exit
        Bye(CLI terminates)


        I was disappointed at the lack of a python shell and "import antigravity". I just really felt like flying today.
      • This was GREAT, but I still think Redflex Van Tarred And Feathered is the very BEST April Fools gag I have seen this year!

        Redflex is the Australian company that is running and promoting these idiotic "traffic cameras" that are supposed to save us from bad drivers, Al Quaieda, halitosis and all forms of evil.

        Especially when you look at the full "fess up" video: April FOOLS!

        HMMM - is there an Aussie word for FOOL and FRAUD?

        OH YES its : "Redflex"!
    • by Jurily ( 900488 )

      or at least some enlightened puns about how to reduce the window manager's footprint!

      Here you go. [fluxbox.org]

    • I demand a punchline from this press release, or at least some enlightened puns about how to reduce the window manager's footprint!

      Enlightenment isn't the default WM in Gnome anymore :-) Oh, you talking about the footprint logo thingey there.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Hah! Bring it on. You won't get me this year!

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Just say "GNO".

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31, 2010 @11:52PM (#31697484)

    I love Gnome, but is looks so outdated these days...

    • by Culture20 ( 968837 ) on Wednesday March 31, 2010 @11:58PM (#31697518)

      I love Gnome, but is looks so outdated these days...

      All the cool UIs have buttons on the left. Someone should do that for Gnome.

      • All the cool boys smoke, wear shoes on their hands and a onion on their belt! We must do that too!
        Oh, and tomorrow they plan to jump off a bridge! We should totally do that to!
        Just so we will finally be accepted by $retardedJoeRandomLUser!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by IBBoard ( 1128019 )

      If modern = hideous shine effects (ala Windows....and Mac...and KDE) then give me Gnome any day. I want something I can manage to look at all day if I have to, not something that burns my eyes after half an hour. As for themes, I like Sonar these days - nice, well executed and not too bland.

      • If modern = hideous shine effects (ala Windows....and Mac

        wait what? the mac does not have hideous shine effects. I just took a pic of some of the native apps (itunes, safari and the system preferences) and I see no shine effects. I guess the window buttons, but they are so small, that does it really count as being overly shiny?
        http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7720/screenshot20100401at440.png [imageshack.us]
        Said that, I do prefer gnome over kde.

      • Gnome "rebooted" like the Star Trek franchise. Apparently they hired Abrams, because what you see is lens flare.

  • Evince on Microsoft Windows(R) now includes support for printing, PostScript and comics.

    Now I know it's April 1st.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I don't put a lot of faith in DE developers that can't fix a simple "Show/Hide hidden and backup files" problem in their file-browser. It's only been how many years?

    Seriously, I set it to show hidden/backup files and tar up a directory (after checking the files) and SENT MY BOSS BACKUP AND HIDDEN FILES THAT I DID NOT WANT TO. That could have been the end of my little world!

    Gnome - what a cluster-f*ck, heheheh!

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Seems to be a lot of Linux/Gnome/KDE bashing on slashdot these days. Makes me think that the Microsoft Trolls have come out to play.

      • ***Seems to be a lot of Linux/Gnome/KDE bashing on slashdot these days. Makes me think that the Microsoft Trolls have come out to play.***

        Could just be folks admitting that Unix has a lot of problems also. OTOH, if I use Unix (which I do), I get mediocre software for a bit less than it's worth instead of paying too much, I don't have to worry about licensing, and I don't have to deal with the $#@(&% registry.

      • No, it's people who use the command line. After all, you don't see a lot of bash bashing.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I don't put a lot of faith in DE developers that can't fix a simple "Show/Hide hidden and backup files" problem in their file-browser. It's only been how many years?

      Seriously, I set it to show hidden/backup files and tar up a directory (after checking the files) and SENT MY BOSS BACKUP AND HIDDEN FILES THAT I DID NOT WANT TO. That could have been the end of my little world!

      Gnome - what a cluster-f*ck, heheheh!

      Note to self: don't store "WhyIHateMyBoss.txt" on company equipment.

    • by TedRiot ( 899157 )
      Luckily a boss that can open tar files doesn't exist.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by IBBoard ( 1128019 )

      Seriously, I set it to show hidden/backup files and tar up a directory (after checking the files) and SENT MY BOSS BACKUP AND HIDDEN FILES THAT I DID NOT WANT TO. That could have been the end of my little world!

      That's your fault for thinking that a visual setting has anything to do with a filesystem operation, and for not checking what you send. A couple of years ago I got caught out the other way - File Roller was ignoring . folders, which was a PITA because I kinda needed them.

  • by arielCo ( 995647 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:05AM (#31697556)
    " If you can't fix it - give it more features! "
  • by William Ager ( 1157031 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:10AM (#31697598)

    It's interesting to note that, in Nautilus, Browser-mode is now the default over Spatial-mode. Years ago, in the 2.0 days with whatever-that-company-was-that-made-Nautilus and the wonderful new HIG and whatnot, the switch to Spatial was heralded as a major improvement and modernization. Now, like many of those huge and bitterly disputed changes, the grand step forward is being reversed with only a slight mention.

    And yet, despite the reversal of so many of those improvements, I do think it's making Gnome better; it's just taking a very long time for the idealists of days past to realize that their ideals didn't really work in the real world.

    • by clang_jangle ( 975789 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:19AM (#31697644) Journal
      All those apparently counter-productive "improvements" implemented by Gnome and KDE these past few years worked out really well for me. They taught me not to rely on a one-size-fits-all-full-bloat DE and instead work with more minimalist tiling WMs and custom scripting the rest for myself. So much nicer, faster, cleaner, and more satisfying, plus I learned a lot. My desktop never looked better, and my productivity has never been higher. :)
      • The only thing I want is slightly smarter window management. If a non-gnome application opens its icon is highlighted in the task bar as a new window. Clicking on the window minimizes the new window. What I want is a task bar option to never minimize.

        • I hate minimized windows (well, I hate overlapping windows in general but haven't found a tiling WM that's 100% what I want either.) If you're using Compiz, in CCSM you can disable minimizing windows. In Window Rules, put "Any" (without quotes) in the Non Minimizable Windows field. This makes the various ALT-Tab window switchers actually useful since they won't show minimized windows (or at least Scale won't.)

          You can also set Always On Top rules here which is helpful for those apps that create child windows

      • Same here. I had been a happy KDE user, but then they went to KDE 4. It lacked polish and crashed everywhere. This reminded me of my first experiences with KDE, which had finally been cleaned up with the later releases of the KDE 3.5 series. KDE 4 seemed a step backward. This caused me to look at other window managers. I found the tiling window managers. They are so much better to use--it's the first time I feel like an actual window manager (not desktop environment, but window manager) is actually a useful

    • by jrumney ( 197329 )
      Windows 7 also uses browser mode. It is just Gnome following the pack again.
      • by Homburg ( 213427 )

        Windows has never had a spatial file manager, hasn't it? That's one of the things that pisses me off every time I find myself using Windows.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by the_womble ( 580291 )

        Gnome also dropped support for XSMP, breaking compatibility with almost any non Gnome app, to do it more like Windows (and a fatuous MS derived use case about closing laptop lids).

        Then there is a centralised config database.

        And people use Gnome because KDE is too much like Windows (i.e. the default theme has the panel at the bottom).

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Personally I think KDE is the one that is actually making the real advances. I think I really noticed this when they reinvented the desktop where everything is a plasmoid, instead of the desktop simply being a dumping ground.
        • by Pecisk ( 688001 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @02:46AM (#31698188)

          "Gnome also dropped support for XSMP, breaking compatibility with almost any non Gnome app, to do it more like Windows (and a fatuous MS derived use case about closing laptop lids)."

          No one dropped it, XSMP code was in terrible state and did more harm than good. There are new gnome session in works for GNOME 3.0 to fix this.

          "Then there is a centralised config database."

          And it is bad why? :) Not mentioning that it is NOT a binary nightmare which are loaded at startup and leaks memory like hell. It is pure text xml files, with very good descriptions what each feature means. Heck, you can grep them and support user with changing settings from command line! Still, even then apps aren't forced to use gconf/dconf, it is only when you want to be a part of official release.

          "And people use Gnome because KDE is too much like Windows (i.e. the default theme has the panel at the bottom)."

          How this remotely connects with what you said above? People use GNOME for very different reasons, and I think default position of panels are least thing which makes people to choose one or another.

          • And people use Gnome because KDE is too much like Windows (i.e. the default theme has the panel at the bottom).

            How this remotely connects with what you said above? People use GNOME for very different reasons, and I think default position of panels are least thing which makes people to choose one or another.

            Not just that, but openSUSE just has a bar at the bottom by default and I personally much prefer it. All the professional usefulness and good apps of Gnome with themes you can use all day without getting

        • by pmontra ( 738736 )

          And people use Gnome because KDE is too much like Windows (i.e. the default theme has the panel at the bottom).

          I removed the top bar of my gnome desktop because it's on the way of my apps there and moved everything into the bottom one. And yes, I don't use KDE because it's too much like Windows but I could switch if gnome 3.0 kills the way I like to use my computer as in the demoes I saw.

          • by spitzak ( 4019 )

            It would be really nice if they could figure out how to hide the task bar so it takes ZERO pixels. In every version for years "hide" has meant a huge 6 pixel grey border, which you can at best reduce to 1 pixel by using gconf. Since KDE has been doing this for years you can't blame some X defect for this.

            Also they need to fix damn click to raise. I want to turn it off, but those idiots doing the window manager somehow wrote this option so it ignores the *programs* attempt to raise the windows. This is USELE

        • by arose ( 644256 )
          There is nothing wrong with a config database, it's just that the Windows Registry isn't one. It's a catch all, store anything under the sun database.
    • by arose ( 644256 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:52AM (#31697738)
      I strongly preferred the spatial back in the day, because the browser mode was next to useless. The breadcrumbs convinced me to switch back, but it took a while for browser mode to actually become better, instead of just being familiar to Windows Explorer users.
    • ...but I still do not use browser mode, either. Instead, I am now just using the terminal 99% of the time. The spacial implementation in Gnome failed for me because it was way too clunky. For something that is supposed reflect placement of real objects in real life, you really need to be able to interact with them with both hands in order for it to be enjoyable. In other words, there needs to be many more keyboard/mouse/mouse-keyboard commands for mass window management. Sometimes, it just doesn't work

      • by yoyhed ( 651244 )

        Where is my option-click to close all the windows of an appliciation? Where is my option click outside of the window to hide it? Where is my ctrl-shift-w to close all windows of an application? Where is my option-click for my taskbar window button to bring all windows of that application to the font? Why can't I click this same window button to hide all the windows that just came to the front? Where is my system level ctrl-~ to switch between windows of a single application?

        In KDE?

      • by arose ( 644256 )

        Where is my system level ctrl-~ to switch between windows of a single application?

        In the keyboard shortcuts, bound to ctrl+alt+tab by default. Now let me get out of the way of your rant.

      • by juhaz ( 110830 )

        Where is my system level ctrl-~ to switch between windows of a single application?

        Alt-F6

    • by CODiNE ( 27417 )

      http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/13/175252 [slashdot.org]

      They should have listed to Steve. Spatial interfaces turn the users into janitors. There's just no ideal way to pre-arrange all your folders so that there's no overlap, sure you can do it for a few if you're always working on the same, but eventually you need to use one of the other half million folders on your system and the windows end up blocking. Yaaaay, now time to play the tile game on your screen.

      If your window manager doesn't allow spat

    • by hey ( 83763 )

      This page says GNOME 2.6.0 started spatial but now we have GNOME 2.3. Going backwards with the version numbers
      http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/spatial-nautilus.html [bytebot.net]

      Also on wiki
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-2.6-en.png [wikipedia.org]

  • Typing in paths (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dwedit ( 232252 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:25AM (#31697664) Homepage

    How can we make Gnome better? I know! Let's take away that useful button that lets you type in paths. And then yell at you for being stupid when you don't know that button had a Hotkey (Ctrl+L) that still works, even with the button missing.

    Stay classy, Gnome devs.

    • by dargaud ( 518470 ) <slashdot2&gdargaud,net> on Thursday April 01, 2010 @03:44AM (#31698444) Homepage
      Thanks, that single 'feature' was the reason I switched all my machines to KDE ! Ctrl-L you say ? Too Ctrl-Late.
    • by Pecisk ( 688001 )

      I have never used that button and it has caused confusion of mine several times. I *always* used Ctrl+L. And giving how popular Firefox (or any mainstream web browser as application) is, I think most of users who care knows that Ctrl+L gives you possibility to change location.

      • by Dwedit ( 232252 )

        I always used F6 in Firefox to get the location bar, it's the traditional shortcut key for switching between panes in a multi-pane window. That key goes way back to QBasic, you would hit that key to switch between the Help area and the Code area, and also works in text editors with a splitter, like TextPad or Visual Studio. It just so happens that the Firefox developers decided that F6 would be a nice key to go to the location bar for some reason. Maybe because the URL bar is like a second pane in a wind

  • by Pecisk ( 688001 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:27AM (#31697672)

    I'm GNOME regular since 2003 and all I can say is these 2.x series has been great ride. Yes, there where stuff which were broken, there where people who said that features are taken away, but still, I'm very productive in this desktop and trust me, I have worked with and supported every mainstream and not-so-mainstream desktop under the sun - it is one of the best. Apple gets it first, but GNOME guys cleverfully tries to integrate that stuff what matters. So kudos for all GNOME developers for these series and while I'm still a little bit cautinous about shell, I think it will turn out good in the end (it was quite usable when I tried it during Jaunty).

    Beyond usual "small stuff" which is nice to have (like fully working Evince on Windows, giving you good alternative for Adobe Reader or FoxIt), I really like Vinagre improvements. In quite short time, it has become de facto VNC viewer for GNOME platform, and finally there are color bit settings for those with dialups or other slow links.

    • by Yaa 101 ( 664725 )

      I miss one thing in Vinagre that is there in the regular terminal, that is copy/paste from local or even virtual machine to the shell on the remote machine, yes I mainly work with ssh instead of vnc.
      I do like the bookmarks for remote sessions, saves a lot of time and typing the ssh command.

  • "advanced file management, better remote desktop experience, easier notes synchronization and a generally smoother user experience"

    I requested those *specifically*!

    • "advanced file management, better remote desktop experience, easier notes synchronization and a generally smoother user experience" I requested those *specifically*!

      So Gnome2.30 was your idea..

    • So you're saying Gnome 2.30 was your idea?
  • by 2Bits ( 167227 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @12:37AM (#31697694)

    1) A sync framework built-in, for syncing different mobile devices. Everyone has one or more mobile devices now, nothing works really well. My Windows Mobile phone, PDA, my iTouch, etc, are not working well. SynCE and Multi-sync are not up to task (yet). This might be a Linux issue, but it would great too if Gnome could provide a nice syncing framework, if no one at a lower level would want to pick it up. Anyway, I really don't care where that issue should be lied in, I just wish my mobile devices work nicely with my linux laptop. It's annoying having to manage my contact, calendar, task list etc in Windows inside a VirtualBox, in order to be able to sync.

    2) Evince should take a look at PDF Xchange PDF viewer. I want to be able to add notes, highlight, etc, in my PDF ebooks. Installing PDF Xchange Viewer on Wine is an ugly solution (font and UI are way ugly), and it's too slow.

    3) F-Spot is slow...

    4) Anjuta, can we do emacs key binding yet? Haven't used it for a while though.

    5) Network Connections should apply network settings after changes, not having to ask users to restart networking service or reboot. Ok, probably just an Ubuntu issue.

    6) Gnome should wake up probably after a suspend. I have no such issue with other desktop or WM, just Gnome. I tolerated it so far, coz I don't do suspend that much, and prefer to hibernate. But it's still annoying when you need to do it.

    7) iBus seems to have a bad habit of hanging from time to time, especially when you are typing too fast, and you have to switch between input methods very often. And start up is slow too.

    I'll try the new version soon, hope to see some of my problems solved. Regardless, thanks a lot for the hard work, really appreciat it.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by KiloByte ( 825081 )

      3) F-Spot is slow...

      And what exactly did you expect from a program written in Mono? It has been pushed in due to political considerations, not because it's usable.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by zlogic ( 892404 )

      Conduit [gnome.org] is a very promising sync framework. I've used it a year ago, sync over ssh failed, but the project is really nice, allowing to create complex sync rules with an easy to use GUI.

    • by arose ( 644256 )

      F-Spot is slow...

      Worse, if let it, it eats metadata at night; I'm referring to the madness they do with time zone conversion. Even if you convince it to leave your pictures alone it will still fuck with how time is displayed...

      Thankfully not only is it not part of Gnome, but a good alternative seems to finally be getting of the ground [yorba.org].

  • I ran screaming for the hills. dependency HELL.

    gnome seems to straddle this useless position of being less polished and feature packed then KDE, but slower and more comlpex then XFCE4.x I love XFCE btw it's a great wimdow manager.

  • Has the Nautilus "Places" ordering bug been fixed yet? I'm not a developer, but seriously, how hard can it be to allow the user to drag and drop items in the "Places" widget? The nearly identical bookmarks can be drag-and-dropped. I wouldn't even care, if the default ordering made ANY sense at all, but its not alphabetical, not chronological, its COMPLETELY random as far as I can tell. Why can't somebody fix this?
    • Why can't somebody fix this?

      Did you submit a bug report? Perhaps they don't know about it.

    • by somersault ( 912633 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @04:35AM (#31698642) Homepage Journal

      It depends, it's a dynamic area so additional devices are added and removed a lot, you'd have to have some way of defining where they went too, I don't think a simple drag and drop would work for that. I've never even thought about the ordering before, it seems sensible enough though (however it is slighlty different on the system Places menu and Nautilus sidebar). Home folder, desktop, filesystem, external drives, trash.

      • Old comment, but...

        I have a dual boot system with "filesystem" and "windowsboot" partitions on my main drive, plus three internal hard drives that are always connected, named "mediaI", "mediaII", "mediaIII". The order at the moment is:

        filesystem
        network
        mediaIII
        windowsboot
        mediaII
        floppy drive
        mediaI

        I just can't imagine what ordering scheme would result in that list. Sometimes the three media drives are not "monotonic" - II will be first, then III, then I.

        I'd even be happy if it were random, but c
    • by juhaz ( 110830 )

      I'm not a developer, but seriously, how hard can it be to allow the user to drag and drop items in the "Places" widget? The nearly identical bookmarks can be drag-and-dropped.

      It's not hard at all to allow drag and drop - what is hard is being able to meaningfully remember and integrate the changes made when some device isn't there. If you drag something to the top-most location, unplug it, drag something else to top, and put the first stick back in, which should be the first? And where should the other one go?

      The bookmarks are simple, because they only change when you change them.

  • Sawmill/Sawfish? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dltaylor ( 7510 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @03:15AM (#31698318)

    Anyone got sawmill/sawfish running on a recent library set?

    If so, got a link?

    It had Gnome compatibility, but didn't clutter up the desktop with real estate-stealing nonsense or kick off a bunch of annoying memory- and disk-hogging "features", such as indexing, that I don't want, as do both Gnome and KDE.

    • Re:Sawmill/Sawfish? (Score:4, Informative)

      by knarf ( 34928 ) on Thursday April 01, 2010 @07:21AM (#31699322)

      Saw{mill|fish} is just a window manager. It is not a desktop environment. In gnome terms it compares to metacity, not the whole gnome desktop. If you want to run just a window manager you can do that with any of the available window managers. If you like programming your window manager in Lisp then saw{mill|fish} is a good choice but there are many other extensible window managers out there.

      I run a gnome desktop without all those memory-hogging misfeatures like indexing. It has a 17 pixel high gnome panel on the top so the rest of the screen is completely free for useful stuff. Use a theme with small window borders (eg. Mist or Metabox) instead of those huge gaudy monstrosities which many distributions seem to favour. Well-configured gnome is actually one of the least cluttered desktop environments I have found.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01, 2010 @03:27AM (#31698368)

    To justify the presence of the Mono libraries. Why else include this dreadfully slow application when there are much faster, more fully featured, rival applications ready to take its place.

    Miguel must have all his fingers and each of his twelve toes crossed right now, because Mono is the only justification for his salary and share options at Novell. Even the men in suits would get a bit suspicious if none of the software the Miguelistas were producing was used by anyone. At least forcing users to use it creates the illusion that it is needed. Without the inclusion of Mono, Miguel and his band of happy followers would be out on their sorry asses (well, maybe not asses, donkeys perhaps, and even then probably just the one between the lot of them).

    But really... why is F-Spot still there?

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by L4t3r4lu5 ( 1216702 )
      Care to recommend an alternative? I'd look myself, but repo descriptions are hardly... Well, descriptive. You sound like you've used a few, and know enough about them to make an informed recommendation.
      • by arose ( 644256 )
        Try Shotwell [yorba.org], it's still yound, but seems to have entered a development spurt and is adding (useful!) features rapidly. If you don't shoot raw 0.5 should do just about anything f-spot did, with the addition of auto generated events.
  • but the original explorer.exe shell it mimics has fewer bells and whistles, so that's a more user-friendly and better designed UI experience.

    GNOME 3.0 might be better, though. I join all GNOME-istas in hoping so! (And hoping for an eventual fix for the Save File dialog -- it's a tough problem.)

  • I always wondered why it's called gnome. Why couldn't they give some more sensible name, like Midget Widget Toolkit.

    (By the way "gnóm" means clumsy in Hungarian. But I guess it doesn't sound better in English either.)

After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.

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