Bruce Perens on the new Debian Common Core 21
StromPetroke writes "On August 9th, online Linuxzine Mad Penguin conducted an interview with veteran Open Source advocate Bruce Perens on the DCC (Debian Common Core) Alliance. According to Bruce, the DCC will provide a way to "be able to certify to a Linux distribution, and then there will be multiple support providers who can support that same platform and who differentiate themselves at a higher level up the stack.""
Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:1, Redundant)
What you need are STANDARDS in the software development process. E.g. for any given releast in Vx.y [fixed x] the config/command line parameters should be backwards compatible, etc, etc, etc.
From this you can get a bit better stable moving target.
As it stands people are largely just using "Best judgement" which often works but you occasionally get the "Why the fuck did you do that you psyhco motherfuck!" reaction to having a configuration file move three times within 6 mont
Re:Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:3, Informative)
Have you ever used Debian or a Debian based distribution? Config files - hell, any type of file - locations are standardized even if it means modifying the source of an app to change the default locations. Package versioning is standardized. Package renames are well handled. You can easily upgrade from version to version and still understand (for the most part) how the OS works and is laid out. Best of all, you can generally expect that your upgrade will actually work becaus
Re:Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:1)
We also run into the fact that no distribution wants to be held to someone else's standards. It cramps their style and then they choose not to participa
Re:Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:1)
Package: lsb
Priority: extra
The intent of this package is to provide a best current practice way of installing and running LSB packages on Debian GNU/Linux. Its presence does not imply that we believe that Debian fully complies with the Linux Sta
Re:Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:2)
Bruce
Re:Sounds great and all ... but ... (Score:1)
As to the location of configuration files (and libraries), that's part of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) which is included in the LSB by reference.
Re:We're certifying Debian Distributions? (Score:4, Interesting)
However, most of those distros are binary compatable with Debian, with the exceptions of Xandros and Linspire, which take a bit of work. Yeah, even Ubuntu is compatable, if you can work out the library dependencies.
Re:We're certifying Debian Distributions? (Score:3, Insightful)
I've heard this off-hand comment before.
In what way are they non-standard or "dirty"?
Re:We're certifying Debian Distributions? (Score:2)
Re:We're certifying Debian Distributions? (Score:2)
Xandros 3 has been synchronized with Sarge, minimizing installation problems. Prior versions were 'nonstandard' in this respect however.
Re:We're certifying Debian Distributions? (Score:1)
A step in the right direction (Score:2, Insightful)
The fact that Ubuntu (the distro currently on my desktop) is not a member of the DCCA does not bother me very much. The whol
Re:A step in the right direction (Score:3, Informative)
I'm working today on getting more Open Source into Department of Defense, and won't be able to participate any more in this thread. But I will read it all later, and you can always email me (bruce@perens.com). No phone calls today, but as always my number's on my web site.
Bruce
I'm not sure I agree (Score:1, Interesting)
Not too long ago I was a Debian devotee. I wouldn't touch another distro. But my problem is that I am pretty busy, and if a problem occures, and you don't have the time to fix it, new problems just pop up and pretty soon cleaning up the mess seems too far out of reach.
These guys are
UnitedLinux redux? (Score:2)
The only marked difference seems to be that unitedlinux mentions 'servers'. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad idea, but for some reason UnitedLinux fizzled, with the last PR 2 years ago. So what's different this time?
Re:UnitedLinux redux? (Score:2)