New Debian Project Leader: Branden Robinson

Potato the Lizard writes "The Debian project have announced the results of this year's Debian Project Leader election. The winner is Branden Robinson. Branden's candidate platform may be found here."

I For One Welcome our New Overlord

[xmas2003]

Branden Robinson

Re:I For One Welcome our New Overlord

[V. Mole]

No, no, no. You welcome our new Overfiend

Re:I For One Welcome our New Overlord

[suitepotato]

Does anyone really need to say it? "In Soviet Russia, the new overlord welcomes you."

There. I've worked that growing desire to join in the /. inanity out of my system. Back to serious reflection. : P

Re:I For One Welcome our New Overlord

[stevey]

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!

(Actually I voted for Branden, and look forward to seeing how well he does).

I can see it now

[schnits0r]

I know how this conversation is going to go:
A: "Debian is all old!"
B: "Yes, but it's stable and it rulez in professional environments where you can't crash"
C: "Um, but Red Hat has pro support, if you're a pro"
B: "You can buy support from vendors"
D: "Don't people realize stable means stable, and testing means testing and it's wonderful that there are so many options?"
E: "My Gentoo system rox!"
A,C,D: link to sites like funroll-loops.org
F: Hypes up debian-based Knoppix.
G: Hypes up debian-based Ubuntu.
A: "Debian testing is still old, I need new"
B: 'You could try gentoo, you unfaithful kid".
yadda yadda yadda.

laugh, becasue it's true.

Re:I can see it now

[Doug Dante]

You forgot:

Z. Community member uses experience to anticipate posts - delegitimizing community members' opinions and concerns.

Re:I can see it now

[anomalous cohort]

You also forgot about Mod Parent Up

Re:I can see it now

[poofyhairguy82]

What kind of /.er are you?

Where is H with a question mark and a Z with profit?

Re:I can see it now

[DenDave]

before and after the "steal underpants" options?

Surprised.

[DoubleDangerClub]

I'm surprised that he didn't outline anything about the actual Debian release system. You would think with all the hype about Ubuntu, he would've said something about the Sarge release (whether it's really going to be pushed or not). I'm still upset that in the end, I don't think Sarge will be the one to save us. Ubuntu will spread out and conquer. It seems. Anyone think different for Debian? Can we really take them seriously at this point with the lack of update pushes?

Re:Surprised.

[mcslappy]

look at the top 10 hits at distrowatch, and count the number that are either debian or based on it. i'd really like to see more cooperation between them, and the eventual release of sarge as a solid base.

Re:Surprised.

[ajk]

The release is the Release Managers' job, the Project Leader has no special powers related to release management. Branden did, however, participate in the recent Vancouver prospectus discussion.

Re:Surprised.

[Jicksta]

Slap me if I'm ignorant, but what exactly are the major pitfalls to declaring Ubuntu an official Debian fork?

The Ubuntu community could seperate itself from the Debian-based apt-get network, possibly rename it, and manage their own Ubuntu-exclusive repository, just as Yellowdog did with yum.

That way, Debian folks are happy, Ubuntu folks are happy, we have one less problem in the world and one more distro.

Re:Surprised.

[jdowland]

Ubuntu supports roughly 9 fewer architectures than debian.

Re:Surprised.

[poofyhairguy82]

Slap me if I'm ignorant, but what exactly are the major pitfalls to declaring Ubuntu an official Debian fork?

Some Ubuntu lovers' feelings will get hurt and some Debianites will get really mad (because Ubuntu takes their glory away).

To bad because its true.

The Ubuntu community could seperate itself from the Debian-based apt-get network, possibly rename it, and manage their own Ubuntu-exclusive repository, just as Yellowdog did with yum.

From the begining Ubuntu has had its own Repository. Its Debian Sid's

Re:Surprised.

[jdowland]

If they decided to radically change the debian release process in response to ubuntu, even for the better, sarge would be even more delayed. Better to get it out and work on fixing the process for etch.

I'm concerned that sarge isn't imminent but at the moment I'm going to wait and see (well, do more than that, do my part with bug reports/fixes etc.)

Obligatory release comment

[Anonymous Coward]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Debian project elect a new project leader more often than they release a new version?

Re:Obligatory release comment

[Carewolf]

Well, it is the safest way to ensure that nothing ever gets done.

Re:Obligatory release comment

[bstil]

I've used Linux servers for a few years now and Debian is definitely my distro of choice. But, um, I've been using the same Debian Woody installation CDs for those few years...

Ubuntu rocks the desktop. I'm concerned that the original Debian distro will continue to go nowhere fast and that Ubuntu and Knoppix will have to fork or do something.

Re:Obligatory release comment

[bfree]

Ubuntu is forked from sid/unstable and Knoppix is a testing/unstable cross (or was, right now I'm not sure exactly what the mix is). Virtually by definition both will be uneffected by a debian sarge release as they will immediately move straight back on to testing/unstable. If Debian development had stopped for the last few years waiting for sarge then debians problems would be huge, but distributions from Ubuntu to Knoppix, Progeny to Kanotix are all happily sucking from (and blowing at) the central re

Re:Obligatory release comment

[bstil]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Debian project elect a new project leader more often than they release a new version?

Good point. Another item of concern is where the project leader refers everyone to his prior year's position statement:

Because my diagnosis of Debian's challenges has not significantly changed in the past year, ... I refer you to my 2004 platform for further details.

Nothing has changed in an entire year? No need to update Debian's position in light of Ubuntu or anything el

He needs an extra platform point

[suitepotato]

#7 A willingness to make the superhuman attempt at ignoring the carping from the direction of /. that is otherwise loud enough to make disco seem like a public library activity.

Based on what I've seen so far, and having been cut by the bleeding edge of various things before, I'll take Debian's slowness and give them some patience. I'll wait and see what this brings before even thinking about carping.

Branden's a good guy

[Deagol]

Or at least he was when I was at Purdue with him ten or so years ago. :)

It's not like we've maintained any sort of contact over the years, but he was a really good guy when I knew him personally. Smart, eclectic, and funny as hell. Fun to have over for dinner, which was a common occurance back then.

I don't know whether he keeps tabs on Slashdot (not that he'd know who the hell I was anyway), but a major kudos to a good guy I knew long ago! I'd be lucky to some day earn a fraction of the respect that this guy has.

Debian is...

[blkros]

...what it is.
If you don't like it--use another distro.
Anyone whos says that it's old hat needs to remember how many distros are

• based

on it.
That said hurrah for Brandon, may he have a fruitful reign. :D

1-element Schwartz set

[LincolnQ]

If you look at the results you will see that there was a 1-element Schwartz set. What this basically means is that there was a clear winner -- compared to each other candidate, Branden Robinson was preferred more than 50% of the time. This is very good because it means that there is a clear consensus within the voting population as to which candidate is the best.