Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community Ready For Download 336

This is good and all, but when's longhorn comming out? And more importantly, who's going to have the torrent for it?

Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.

My Torrent is SOOO much faster
THANKYOU /.

kids, this is a Great example of the good side of the /. effect

It has KDE 3.2, which is worth an upgrade all in itself! KDE 3.2 is a worth while upgrade, for any distro, not just Mandrake. I have it on Gentoo, and it sure kicks the crap out of XP on the dark side of my pc.

"...Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days."

What in sam hell is he saying? timothy, could you do your job as editor and edit some correct grammar into this fragment of a sentence?

I definitely prefer that to an increase of -10.00%!

Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days.

I presume this means something along the lines of: more good news for the Mandrake community is that this new release has caused Mandrakesoft's stock to resume trading and is up 10% in three days.

Could the editors at least make sure the posts are readible?

I'm glad Mandrake switched their release system to this -- a general, maybe a bit buggy, Community release, and then an official release a few months later with the bugs worked out.

What Mandrake does is great; they produce a very nice desktop distribution, but it's no secret that their product tends to be incredibly buggy out of the box.

Let's hope this helps them improve the quality of their releases!

I am waiting on a non-numberd version. I almos bit with OS-X. But at the last second I realized it was a roman # 10. Close.

I've been a big fan of Mandrake since 5.3. I stuck with them through a few x.0 fiascos and rarely been affected by whatever mistakes people have discovered. That being said, what Mandrake's done with 10.0 and the idea of the community release is to shorten the beta and RC cycle down, releasing a distro that's "mostly ready" so the final bugs can be worked out before the "official" version. I translate that to the community release being just another release candidate and have no plans to install it on my regular use home system (as opposed to the beta testing system I normally leave on Cooker) until they get the rest of the kinks worked out.

In the meantime, that former Cooker system is compiling the kernel for a LiveCD / i686 Stage 3 Gentoo 2004.0 install. I look forward to seeing just how different these 2 distros are to use on a daily basis. (Save any stage 1 for real performance comments. I did that back when 1.4 was released and didn't want to sit around so long again.)

Mandrakelinux 10.0 is based on Linux kernel 2.6.3

Based on 2.6.3, I think that this is the first distro to use the 2.6 series by defult. I could be mistaken though. Debian has had sid packages for 2.6 for a while.

I'd prefer a better increase of +10.00000000000%

Remember that the 10.0 community is subject to updates. Go down past the FTP mirror list and read the blurb just above the straight directory trees. So what you see here is not necessarily what ou are going to get when 10.0 public comes out.

In short, this is a final beta.

When I read this I wanted to skip the rest of class for the day so I could rush home and get Mandrake 10.0. Honestly I'm a die hard Linux supporter but out of laziness I'm still only a newbie, Mandrake is easy for me to set everything I need to, the Internet connection sharing makes my tiny home network a breeze to run and I feel much more secure with the knowledge that I am impervious to script kiddies.

IMO Mandrake is going to become the desktop solution for windows migrators who need to have ease of use as much as anything else.

If Mandrake 10.0 has been advanced as much as 9.2 did from 9.1 then this dist should be getting damn near perfect for what I want. Not that 9.2 is all that far from it.
Sigh....if only I had a hill close enough by for me to shout from.

Wow maybe I'm just not a fan of Mandrake, the first time someone gave me a CD to help them install it I literally thought it was a prank someone was playing. I laugh at AOL commercials who have 9.0 version out with 'hundreds of new features' and just now realized how quickly linux versions jump numbers. Looked at an old Slackware disc I got from cheapbytes think it was 3.6 and now they're up to 9.0+ now, and have to ask myself have there really been that many huge changes to their distrobution to have it be a major release each time? I'm a big SuSE advocate and even with them wonder why it's 9.0 all of a sudden. Many of my machines are still running SuSE 7.2 and upgraded to that from 5.3 and 6.3.

10 years from now will we have SuSE 24.2?

I guess numbers mean squat to me anymore.

I'm presently a Fedora user. I used to be a Mandrake user. I look at Mandrake as a distro that strives to be simple enough for a newbie/former-Windows user, but seems to lack good QA processes. I've followed Mandrake's releases enthusiastically for years (I think version 5(?) was the first one I tried) until I found that version 9 *still* took forever to automount data CDs. I'd put in a data CD, and Konqueror would freeze for several seconds (30+) when I would try to access it. And you know what this equates to for the average computer user? "Linux is slow," that's what. And that doesn't help anyone. Heck, I even gave Mandrake Move a try, and the problem's STILL there! Knoppix doesn't do it, so what gives?

Don't get me wrong; my whole world doesn't revolve around automount; it's just a good example of Mandrake's operations. I'm of the mind that if you're going to put a convenience feature in the software, for God's sake make it work right, or just leave it out! Like it or not, if you're trying to get Windows users to switch, you'll need a working automount for CDs--forcing them to learn to use mount on the command-line when they shouldn't have to is not an option if you're serious about user-friendliness.

Oh, and another thing that bugged me--they included this autorun program on the CD that would supposedly allow one to begin the Mandrake installation from Windows, but clicking the "install" button never did anything. Good way to persuade Windows users to use your product! Why even include it? Typical Mandrake. I posted this to the bug tracker (and found I wasn't the first), but even as of version 9--and I think 9.1--they still didn't fix it. So I never joined the Mandrake Club (I came close), and just stopped using Mandrake altogether, because it seemed to me they would probably never get their act together completely. Maybe now that they're trying to emulate Red Hat's business model they will be able to limp along a while longer. Right now I've got a Fedora Core 1 install that works great, and Mandrake is just something I'd rather forget.

I'm sorry if this info is of no use to anyone; mod me down as you see fit. Who knows, maybe all the stuff I mentioned is fixed in this new Community release? Maybe, but given Mandrake's track record, I doubt it.

I used to be a faithful user of Mandrake, and even bought them 3 powerpacks (7.1, 9.1 and 9.2) just to support them. But I've just dropped them in favor of Slackware (which, by the way, I now consider to be a much better distro except for beginners).

Why ?

Because Mandrakesoft is running a more and more weird policy to force us to suscribe to their "club" - for which we'd have to pay $5 or $10 a month - and to systematically buy their product rather than downloading it.

For example, the new "release scheme" they're running for 10.0 is just a PR-disguise of something that actually amounts to :
1) First, Community=Beta=Buggy version available in stores (only for brain-dead fanboys)
2) Then, Community=Beta=Buggy version available on BT/FTP
3) Then, Official=Stable version available in stores
4) Then, Download Edition = Castrated Edition on BT/FTP (but will you really want that ?)

Moreover, don't forget that *even* if you buy it, you don't get access to the upgrades. For this, you *have* to join the "club". Now this is getting more and more difficult to work around. I mean, as Mandrake adds more and more layers between the user and plain old UNIX, it's being more and more difficult to upgrade important pieces of software for a Mandrake system. If you want to update your kernel or your qt+kde system or (when the licences issues will be over...) your X server, unless you're very skilled, you'll have more and more problems to do it directly from the plain sources. Joining the club tends to be necessary. So here's an algorithm to help you choose your distro :

if (Level <= Beginner
&& OkToPayPerMonth >= 5 * __DOLLARS__
&& CareAboutIdeology == false
&& WantToReallyLearn (UNIX) == false)
{ return MANDRAKE_WITH_SUBSCRIPTION_TO_CLUB;
}
else
{... //Don't want to start a religion war here.
}

How well does Linux 2.6.3, which distro builds on, support Serial ATA drives?

I'm using a Maxtor DiamondMax 9 Plus @ 160 GB. The mainboard is a Abit IS7 and I *think* the SATA controller is from SiliconImage.

When I recently tried out Knoppix, the entire OS (or at least the GUI) froze whenever I tried to access the auto-detected hard drive. However, it's based on 2.4.x and I have a feeling it was due to my SATA drive and lack of controller support.

I'm relatively new to Linux after a longish break, but was thinking about picking up on it again. But I don't really want to start by messing around with SATA drivers, as it seems to be both a rather complex task for a newbie and a risky task too, as I'm dealing with low-level stuff that I fear could corrupt data if done wrong.