Knoppix Tips and Tricks 496
cosog writes "Robert Storey writes in a
thorough review about Knoppix: 'Some people even take a Knoppix disk with them when they go shopping for a new computer, a clever way to ensure that the hardware will be Linux compatible before you purchase it.' His article discusses things like: booting, rescuing, installing on HDD, tips'n'tricks, etc... A nice read for everyone interested in Linux (and Knoppix in particular ;)."
Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Really? DD is far slower because it makes exact copies down to the bits. Norton Ghost works by cloning files instead. Instead, think of dump + gzip instead of dd. Insert some netcat for networking and presto, one central server holding default installs for all OSes you want. Probably works nice with network booting, then selecting a configuration, start cloning and then reboot into a brand-spanking new & fresh OS installation.
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Funny)
Oww, you mean the command dd..... right.... I knew that....
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Knoppix (Score:4, Funny)
Doug Gwyn's "Adventure Shell" (Score:5, Funny)
You are in a directory. A stairway called .. leads up. There are files here.
Get foo.
Throw foo at
Re:Knoppix (Score:4, Funny)
I can see the list of user rights now...
is in the room
is at the pub
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Hmmm... what to think of a post scored as +3 Funny that simply summarizes a bit by the Dead Alewives [deadalewives.com] without giving credit where credit is due [reference.com]?
Funny. Sad. Whatever. Listen to the original routine should you be so inclined.
Re:Knoppix (Score:4, Funny)
colleges do this (Score:3, Informative)
Campus computers were setup like that. The drives were wiped when restarted, and on boot it'd load a cloned OS over the network onto the hard drive.
Kept the geeks from installing viruses and required no maintance, since the OS for every PC on campus was all on one server, just had to be sure every PC was similar so the drivers could be the same
DD often far faster (Score:3, Interesting)
and it certainly helps if you've defragged your source disk before copying, but normally copying files is slower because it's much more complex and has to bounce around the disk a lot more, while dd can just rip right along without slowing down. (As somebody else mentioned, you do want to use large blocks with dd, of course.) Norton Ghost does have some extra functionality on Windows, dealing with the !(#W(
Re:Knoppix (Score:3, Informative)
Ghost will read file by file and write to the new disk. (advantages is that you can resize partitions, it'll be faster because it copies less data; disadvantage: it must support the file system; it may miss hidden/meta d
Re:Knoppix (Score:3, Interesting)
Have you ever actually used that command? Did it work? Start with man cp and see where you went wrong. I think you might want to look at commands that read the contents of a file and then try and redirect the output to another file.
DD != Ghost (Score:2)
Since when does DD do muliticasting, resizing of partitions.. Partition selection... Remote capture of the HD, etc, etc, etc..
Sure DD has some uses, but it is NOT by any stretch of the imgaination as functional as ghost...
And if you want to toss in the enterprise features of ghost, the gap widens even further..
Re:DD != Ghost (Score:5, Informative)
Now your not talking about ghost, your talking about a number of tools.
mount
partd
mkfs
kernel support for more filesystems than ghost will ever dream of.
tar
dd
cp
mkswap
lilo/grub
Between these utilities you can do pretty much everything ghost can and much much more. A knoppix cd (generally I use a customized one to take out the gui fluff) gives FAR more flexibility than any other software tool.
Re:DD != Ghost (Score:3, Insightful)
System Rescue CD (Score:3, Informative)
A happy user of QTParted
Re:DD != Ghost (Score:4, Informative)
Check out System Rescue CD [sysresccd.org] They even have a PPC version.
I compare the price and license of the rescue CD to that of Ghost. I can give the CD away to anyone without a worry, I can't do that with Ghost.
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
See, if you do DD, it works if all the hard drives are the same size. But if you want to make an image that will last a while, on multiple machines, you have to make it match the smallest drive (since dd simply copies the content and doesn't rewrite the partition table). So if you make it, say, 2GB, you throw away a lot of space on bigger drives. And like I said, partimage can't write NTFS properly.
Not to mention Ghostwalker, which changes the machine's hostname and rewrites the SID's (I think that's what they're called; I rarely use Windows anymore) on the files so that they are unique and secure.
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Personally, I use Barts Boot cdrom [nu2.nu], and ghost over tcp/ip to backup servers/workstations and laptops. I find ghost works great to backup a system that doesnt have an OS or a Partition over the network. Plus I can read
If ghost worked under winex or dosemu, then I'd run it under knoppix, but for now, Barts Cdrom does the job.
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Knoppix (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Knoppix (Score:2)
Happily, there is also free software to do the same thing.
Knoppix + DD (or, as I did it, the Red Hat Install CD recovery mode + DD) has its uses -- if, as you said, the disk is the same. Not ideal for corporate use (unless you're really careful about giving everyone exactly the same PC model). I found
Re:Knoppix (Score:4, Informative)
New SID [sysinternals.com]
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Knoppix - let me try again. (Score:3, Insightful)
config NTFS_RW
bool "NTFS write support"
depends on NTFS_FS
help
This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver.
The only supported operation is overwriting existing files, without
changing the file length. No file or directory cre
Re:Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
You run it on a machine to reset the name and SID's, then on next boot it asks you for a machine name and recreates the SID's.
So sysprep, ghost, startup and put in name and your done.
Re:There are many limitations to Sysprep: (Score:3, Informative)
Mainly this, Sysprep works perfectly well on OEM versions AND upgrades.
Basically all sysprep REALLY does is, change the pc name and SID + knock out motherboard and ide drivers.
It's kind of like performing the first half of a win98 install, then ghosting that to different systems, you will get clean hardware detection every time and simply cut the instal
Re:Knoppix (Score:2, Informative)
That said, there does exist a good free ghost-like tool or two for linux, which actually parse common linux filesystems:partimage [partimage.org] even has experimental NTFS support!
Or... (Score:2, Interesting)
The first time I used ghost, I wasn't impressed. The first time I used dd I was surprised by its superiority through simplicity. Your mileage may vary,
I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Interesting)
Voila!
(smirk) Not sure the salespeople would appreciate it, though.
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:2)
Probably due to the incredible cost of that plan. It would cost millions that could be better spent fueling development. Maybe if AOL disks were a bootable distro with AOL, OpenOffice, and maybe some games, then you'd be in business.
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Interesting)
Back when Pentiums first came out, I went to a Circuit City and wrote a quick little Quickbasic app that drew random lines on the screen as fast as it could. This was a test I did at home as well, just wanted to get a feel for how much faster this would be than my 486. A salesman came over and told me to get away from the computer. He thought I was up to no good.
Have times changed? Maybe... But I would urge caution when going to a computer store and booting up Knoppix, maybe go grab a salesguy and say "I'd like to do this, cool?" I imagine stores that show computers like this have had to deal with their fair share of people trying to break the system.
Re:I used knoppix at bestbuy (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyways, buying computers retail is a bad idea usually. I'm a student worker at the IT dept. of my University and it seems we're always working on student HPs and Compaqs. I'm not sure if thats because its what most people have, or if the people that need help (usually from catching a virus and/or getting loads of spyware) or if its because the machines are crap. Perhaps all of the above.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
$ history (Score:3, Funny)
10 tar xvfz 70m5-r00t-k17.tgz
47 eliza
94 help
95 help help
96 del C:\*.*
97 I HATE THIS FUCKING COMPUTER!!!!!!
BitTorrent link... (Score:5, Informative)
The torrents are pretty fast; faster than the mirrors in my personal experience.
Re:BitTorrent link... (Score:3, Informative)
Whether BT is faster for grabbing KNOPPIX depends on where you are. My office box is on the INET2 backbone, and I've found that grabbing from an INET2 mirror via HTTP or FTP is about 100x faster there than grabbing via BT. YMMV.
It seems like... (Score:5, Funny)
Cool (Score:2)
Re:Cool (Score:5, Interesting)
The kicker came when they found out it was free. I ended up giving both cds away to people that wanted to play with it at home.
Re:Cool (Score:5, Interesting)
How geeky is that ? (Score:2)
Give me a break, we are only at the beginning of 2004.
jdif
It's only geeky to Windows users. (Score:3, Interesting)
Linux users don't have the luxury (yet) of knowing if drivers exist for specific harware (other than looking at a HCL that may or may not be current.
Re:How geeky is that ? (Score:3, Interesting)
don't make the zealot with me. I just denounced a blatant geeky advertising for Knoppix (hardware is supported under Linux, except some rare cases (nVidia mostly, and intel wireless) that you can check before buying your brand-new useless computer ; thus you don't have to bring your Knoppix Cd to the store), it was not to listen to some Mac brainless fans.
Again, I don't see why people are praising a "free-software" company, when it sells a minor upgrade of some FreeBSD-based OS for 139 USD. Mac users ar
Rescue (Score:2, Insightful)
it deserves the hype (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:it deserves the hype (Score:3, Interesting)
linux hardware test (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:linux hardware test (Score:2)
KnoppiXBox? (Score:5, Funny)
Oh the fun you could have especially if your playing on a big screen surrounded by huge Xbox signage!
Need bootable USB (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, knoppix CD is great, but with 256MB (and more?) USB keys out there, I wish more BIOS's would allow booting from USB, it'd be so nice to walk into a net cafe, pull linux out of my pocket or USB watch, and then read mail with mutt in X-Windows while surfing with my own damn bookmarks. And not having to close the last guy's chat session and assorted porn popups? Priceless.
Mini Knoppix (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Need bootable USB (Score:5, Informative)
Boot off of knoppix CD, but place your home folder on your USB key. Knoppix readily supports this, and in most instances will automatically detect the key and the home folder without any special paramaters.
An even bigger plus is that you probably won't need much more than a 32mb key for day-to-day use.
Take a Mepis disk too (Score:5, Informative)
Not to knock knoppix as Klaus has given birth to the *practical* live CD movement, but its still has the 'feel' of a toy..
Hmmmmm or have some fun and boot one off cluster knoppix and PXE the rest of the building...
Knoppix and a Gig of Ram (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know if his top of the line, hyperthreaded P4 had a big impact, because I don't know hard it is to decompress the cloop compression knoppix uses. But if you have a computer with a gig or more of ram you should give it a try.
Re:Knoppix and a Gig of Ram (Score:3, Interesting)
Article Text (Score:5, Informative)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
In these modern times it seems that there is a product to suit every whim and fancy. Whether you need a miniature Statue of Liberty with a clock in her (its?) stomach or a stuffed alligator with a light bulb in its mouth, you can rest assured that somebody somewhere is marketing it.
When it comes to software, much the same situation prevails. There are applications that do everything from psychoanalysis (in Emacs hit M-x and type "doctor"), to helping you contact alien civilizations (SETI@Home).
Operating systems are not immune to this tendency towards specialization. Notepads, cell phones and perhaps your DVD player all have specialized operating systems. At the height of the dotcom bubble, there were pundits predicting that soon your online refrigerator would have an operating system, the purpose of which was allegedly to order milk when you needed it. Just why you couldn't buy your own damn milk was never explained to us.
And finally we come to Linux distributions. There are different distros for different purposes. Desktop Linux (in many flavors), server Linux, embedded Linux, Linux routers, Linux BIOS, Linux on the Halfshell. And every so often, somebody comes up with a whole new use for Linux that just makes everybody sort of just stop in their tracks and say, "Cool!" Which brings me (you are still with me, aren't you?) to the topic of this article - Knoppix.
Live From Germany
Knoppix is a "live CD" distro - just boot it and use it. You do need a CD drive of course, but you don't need a hard disk. The implications of this are significant. It means you have a portable Linux that you can take with you wherever you go. This can be used in a number of innovative ways - as a demo disk, as a rescue disk, as a way to use Linux at your local Windows-only Internet cafe. Some people even take a Knoppix disk with them when they go shopping for a new computer, a clever way to ensure that the hardware will be Linux compatible before you purchase it.
To be fair, Knoppix was not the first live CD ever created. Apple, for example, distributed MacOS (even before OSX) on a live CD. Linux has had DemoLinux, SUSE Live-Eval and Cool Linux, as well as some others. But none of these have come close to the functionality of Knoppix, which could justifiably claim the title as "first useful live CD." Even though Knoppix has inspired a number of clones (Gnoppix, Morphix, Freeduc, Quantian, to name a few), it still remains the most popular live CD distro by far.
Most people are just awe-struck the first time they see a Knoppix CD boot. Probably the thing that blows them away is the hardware auto-detection. There is really nothing to configure - just boot the CD, and two to three minutes later you have a beautiful desktop system. This is remarkable, given the lack of standards (and lack of driver documentation) that exists in the PC world.
Knoppix took the Linux world by storm in late 2002, but actually it's history is a little bit longer than that. Klaus Knopper of Germany started his experiment with "Knopper's *nix" about three years ago. As he tells the story, it wasn't his original intention to create a new Linux distro, but rather to learn how "el torito" (the booting mechanism on CDs) works, and how to get access to a whole CD from a minimal ramdisk system. However, his project soon attracted the attention of the LinuxTag association, which happily provided a mailing list and forum so that others could give their input. Though Klaus was (and still is) the solo developer of Knoppix, user feedback and bug-testing have helped make this distro the great success it is.
Deep Impact
Knoppix is one of the most up-to-date distros around. This is thanks to the fact that it is based on Sid, the "unstable" branch of Debian. Some people might be put off by the word "unstable," or the word "Sid" (the name of the mentally unstable kid in
I've done this before (Score:4, Interesting)
Dangerous (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Dangerous (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Dangerous (Score:5, Insightful)
Despite of this obvious threat, Dreamcasts were not banned, nor made to implement stronger security measures. Why? Because if any device on a network, w/o a password or any type of authorization other than its physical location can destroy a firewall, then the network itself has larger problems to deal with. To me, this calls into question the assumption of trusted devices. In short, Knoppix cannot forsee it's use, thus placing the burden on those who create and administer networks to do so in a safe and responsible manner.
Re:Dangerous (Score:3, Insightful)
Knoppix and students (Score:5, Informative)
My best experience with linux (Score:5, Informative)
I like the idea of a live cd where if I fucked anything up, a simple reboot would fix everything. This is how linux should be taught to new users who are afraid of trying new things but still have some strange desire to use linux.
Re:My best experience with linux (Score:5, Interesting)
Off-topic: That damn HP laptop convinced me to never buy another HP product again. The drive died when the thing was 13 months old. The manufacturer warranty on it was 3 years, but HP only covered 1 year (it was OEMed). Their offered to fix it for $269 to $649 (depending on the work required). I got rather nasty with them when I got that quote. My exact words to them in my response was, "In other words, you do not honor manufacturer's warranties (which should be 3 years), plus you try to screw your customers by charging them $269 or more to replace a $100 (retail price) hard drive. How nice."
Sweet Mandrake goodness too (Score:2)
My 6 year old son likes Knoppix, really (Score:5, Interesting)
He put it in and after about 30 minutes after not hearing him ask for help with his game (which he ALWAYS does) I went in to see what he was doing, I almost had a heart attack, he was clicking away on Knoppix. It scared me becuase I forgot I had knoppix burned. and I thought he had rebooted my system into linux and changed from Gnome to KDE
But the more I think about it the more I like the idea of setting him loose on a live distro, I dont have to worry about him buggering up my work system (yes I have a spare system for him but its not fast enough for most of his games)
When I first started in computers I was his age and if I made a mistake I rebooted, no OS , MS basic in Rom and a 6502 on an OSI challener (the good 'ole days may date me a bit since that comp came out in 77 and I was 7:)but I got my feet wet in assy programming then. I didnt have to ask dear old dad for any help beyond well, everything, but I didnt have to worry about bonking an OS either.
When I found him on the system he was drawing cats on gimp, bestill my little code monkey....
Re:My 6 year old son likes Knoppix, really (Score:4, Insightful)
And some critics say that Linux is too complicated to be used by adult professionals in the workplace.
You obviously have a very smart son, but the point remains -- Linux is definitely ready for the mainstream, usability-wise.
I prefer Clusterknopix (Score:5, Interesting)
Being put off (Score:4, Interesting)
I suppose that I'm one of those people. To me, the strong emphasis on free software / GPL / alternatives to "big corporate entities" that seems to be a part of the Debian community seems antithetical to the idea of naming their product after DISNEY CHARACTERS. Isn't Disney _exactly_ the big evil company the oppose? Isn't Disney the one working to extend copyright indefinately, put all sorts of protections and technical blocks on DVS, &c &c?
So the name "Sid" is a Debian turnoff to me. And probably others.
As for Knoppix, I didn't find it self-configuring very well on my Latop, but I DID find the Image perfct as a way to set up and configure disc images in a VMWare virtual machine. So, the concept IS a very good one. The distribution (or at last the Desktop) seemed inclined to include quite a few things just for a "coolness" factor which didn't contribute to either usuability or functionality. Strip the whole thing down a little cleaner and meanear and you've got a really nice tool.
Graduation... (Score:4, Interesting)
Use DD afterall & do Comp Forensic guys know t (Score:4, Interesting)
[Do computer forensic folks know the above?]
Anyway, I'd hate to wipe an old hard disk before finding that its copy (eg, made with dump & gzip)
didn't get the DB copied onto it...
Is therething that does such a job (correctly) -better- (ie more time-effectively) than DD?
Two things about Knoppix that piss me off (Score:3, Informative)
One has a Biostar motherboard with a Via Rhine network card on it. For some reason, though Knoppix will load the Via Rhine module for it, the card won't come up. It works fine in Debian with the same module, and I've seen posts that the module is somehow compiled slightly wrong in Knoppix. But to fix it, I need to install the Knoppix kernel to a hard drive and then recompile the module! No thanks...
The other is my laptop which has a Senao pcmcia wifi card. Again, in Debian with wlan-ng I can make the card work fine using the prism_cs driver, but Knoppix seems to really, really want to use the orinoco driver for the card. So much that, no matter WHAT I do, I can't get it to use the prism_cs driver. Highly irritating!
Oh well.
Knoppix Data Recovery for Grandma (Score:5, Informative)
Knoppix & MAME! (Score:5, Interesting)
I recently did a hard-drive install of knoppix 3,3 (Score:3, Informative)
I ran into a couple of problems though. Sndconfig refuses to work with my sound card. I have an audigy and the emu10k1 (or whatever the hell name it was) installs by default. Running the sndconfig command (after struggling to find a way to close x windows without shutting down) I was greeted by a "module is not in the specified search path"... No information was given as to which path was the search path nor any information as to how to change the search path.
Knoppix also installs by default close to every program ever written for linux including both KOffice and OO.o perhaps a little bit of an overkill.
The other problem I have with knoppix is changing the refresh rate and screen resolution. When using the live CD, the refresh rate and the screen resolution are some of the "cheat codes" you can enter. In the hard-disk install, no oppurtunity is offered for the entering of such codes. I'll probably end up having to edit some
The final minor annoyance (and it is minor) is that the CD version boots using both color and a nice resolution (1024x768) for the streams of console text that appear during booting. The hard-disk install does not. It's pretty minor, but the colored text and resolution was really nice and made reading the text much easier.
Knoppix is a really good live CD, but the harddrive install leaves a little to be desired. Hopefully that changes with new versions.
Hiphip horray for Knoppix! (Score:5, Interesting)
- to backup data from bashed W2K machines to a network drive
- to scan a networks for security issues
- to test systems for Linux compatibility
- to demo linux to people
- to show off crossplatform apps
- customized as a product demo CD
- customized as a read-only server setup
- as an aid to test for hard-to-detect hardware issues
- as a boot disk to access other Linux boxes
- test for server/client configurations
Needless to say, I use Knoppix a LOT. I have created lots of Knoppix disks and promote it to anyone who has an interest in learning about or who uses Linux. I have found it to be awesome at detecting a wide variety of hardware and a great "second opinion" when troubleshooting a Windows box for hardware issues
I was downloading this yesterday afternoon... (Score:5, Interesting)
Forget about building a special distro just for the 800 meg CD's out there. It's not really that much more space for something that's not "standard" in the first place. Why doesn't somebody go ahead and make a Knoppix-type distro for DVDs? Most newer machines have them and with 4.7 gig of storage space you can put pretty much everything on them. With one of these properly configured and a decent sized USB memory drive, this is all somebody really needs for a truly portable computing experience. You could fit Gnome and KDE as well as a good installer on them. Forget about making a "Live" version of a distro. With one DVD containing a live version of Linux as well as a full installation environment running on it, it's a true one-stop-shop.
Does anybody make a credit-card form factor DVD +/-R like they do with the CD-Rs? If you could fit a full Knoppix distro onto something that size that you can fit into your wallet, that'd be really useful. While CD's aren't all that big, they're inconvenient to carry around all the time "just-in-case".
It's really too bad that you can't burn a distro to a CR-RW or a DVD +/-RW and use the unused space as a worm drive of your configuration or data. You'd have to refresh the disc every so often as your available space would dwindle, but you could get around even needing a USB key-fob. Unfortunately the common disc-formats in use make this very difficult, but it's something to think about...d
a script to build a bootable DVD (Score:4, Interesting)
testing new systems (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: Full text (Score:4, Informative)
When it comes to software, much the same situation prevails. There are applications that do everything from psychoanalysis (in Emacs hit M-x and type "doctor"), to helping you contact alien civilizations (SETI@Home).
Operating systems are not immune to this tendency towards specialization. Notepads, cell phones and perhaps your DVD player all have specialized operating systems. At the height of the dotcom bubble, there were pundits predicting that soon your online refrigerator would have an operating system, the purpose of which was allegedly to order milk when you needed it. Just why you couldn't buy your own damn milk was never explained to us.
And finally we come to Linux distributions. There are different distros for different purposes. Desktop Linux (in many flavors), server Linux, embedded Linux, Linux routers, Linux BIOS, Linux on the Halfshell. And every so often, somebody comes up with a whole new use for Linux that just makes everybody sort of just stop in their tracks and say, "Cool!" Which brings me (you are still with me, aren't you?) to the topic of this article - Knoppix.
Live From Germany
Knoppix is a "live CD" distro - just boot it and use it. You do need a CD drive of course, but you don't need a hard disk. The implications of this are significant. It means you have a portable Linux that you can take with you wherever you go. This can be used in a number of innovative ways - as a demo disk, as a rescue disk, as a way to use Linux at your local Windows-only Internet cafe. Some people even take a Knoppix disk with them when they go shopping for a new computer, a clever way to ensure that the hardware will be Linux compatible before you purchase it.
To be fair, Knoppix was not the first live CD ever created. Apple, for example, distributed MacOS (even before OSX) on a live CD. Linux has had DemoLinux, SUSE Live-Eval and Cool Linux, as well as some others. But none of these have come close to the functionality of Knoppix, which could justifiably claim the title as "first useful live CD." Even though Knoppix has inspired a number of clones (Gnoppix, Morphix, Freeduc, Quantian, to name a few), it still remains the most popular live CD distro by far.
Most people are just awe-struck the first time they see a Knoppix CD boot. Probably the thing that blows them away is the hardware auto-detection. There is really nothing to configure - just boot the CD, and two to three minutes later you have a beautiful desktop system. This is remarkable, given the lack of standards (and lack of driver documentation) that exists in the PC world.
Knoppix took the Linux world by storm in late 2002, but actually it's history is a little bit longer than that. Klaus Knopper of Germany started his experiment with "Knopper's *nix" about three years ago. As he tells the story, it wasn't his original intention to create a new Linux distro, but rather to learn how "el torito" (the booting mechanism on CDs) works, and how to get access to a whole CD from a minimal ramdisk system. However, his project soon attracted the attention of the LinuxTag association, which happily provided a mailing list and forum so that others could give their input. Though Klaus was (and still is) the solo developer of Knoppix, user feedback and bug-testing have helped make this distro the great success it is.
Deep Impact
Knoppix is one of the most up-to-date distros around. This is thanks to the fact that it is based on Sid, the "unstable" branch of Debian. Some people might be put off by the word "unstable," or the word "Sid" (the name of the mentally unstable kid in the movie "Toy Story"). Fortunately, in everyday use Knoppix is considerably more stable than many other distros (and infinitely more stabl
Re: Full text (Score:5, Interesting)
I ache for Linux to be this way in general. I'm a Linux newb. I get nervous mucking around with conf files. (i.e. typos, formatting, and upper/lower case...) Knoppix was the first time I booted a Linux distro and got the right video mode. I was so happy with that. It just found everything. Makes one wonder: Why even go through a lengthy install? Why not copy the disc, boot, and auto-configure? Guess I'm just frustrated after spending a VERY long time installing Redhat.
Re: Full text (Score:3, Interesting)
The best thing is that, because it installs straight from the Knoppix desktop, you can chat, play games and read web pages while it gets on with it.
Absolutely fantastic for those who are new to *nix because it gives them a chance to get used to the desktop and the apps before digging deeper and learn
Re:Slashdotted? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:My Knoppix Problems (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:My Knoppix Problems (Score:2)
Re:My Knoppix Problems (Score:3, Insightful)
Hard Drives using the the latest IDE
Re:My Knoppix Problems (Score:5, Informative)
These aren't comparable measurements at all.. The x in cdrom speeds is how many times faster it is than the original "1x" cdroms, and harddrive speed isn't measured in X's at all its in revolution's. You can't just add an X to the end of a harddrive speed and expect to compare it to a cdrom drive.
Re:7200, 5400 HD RPM and 52X CD-ROM RPM (Score:4, Insightful)
Hence a 52X speed CD-ROM will revolve 10920 and 28028 times per minute on the outer and inner edge respectively
Wait. Did you just say that with a straight face, or am I misreading?
If the inner edge revolves more often than the outer edge, just how are they being held together? How many times a minute is the centre of the disc spinning?
I think you're getting velocity confused with rpms
Re:7200, 5400 HD RPM and 52X CD-ROM RPM (Score:3, Informative)
The drive spins the entire disk faster when it is reading the inner edge to maintain a constant read speed.
But like the original poster said, this is no longer true in most modern "52x" drives that just read data more slowly along the inner edge of the disk as compared to the outer edge.
Re:What could you steal? (Score:3, Funny)
h3llo this isa test of word...
Re:What could you steal? (Score:2)
We should enforce a 'stupid-penalty'
Re:Knoppix will be good when.. (Score:3, Informative)
Already been done [sourceforge.net]. Also, Morphix [sourceforge.net] can fufill most of your other requests, although it's not point-and-click customizable quite yet.
Re:Knoppix will be good when.. (Score:4, Informative)
Having said that, Knoppix (still) rocks :-)
Re:Trick to knoppic I never learned (Score:5, Informative)
I've just started playing with Knoppix tonight, and I gotta tell you, I'm sold. THIS is what Linux should be.