New Testing Version Of Linux 2.6 327
James A. A. Joyce writes "It's all up now at the kernel archives. Get the full 2.6.0-test2 or a patch, whichever suits you. We need to test those new kernels! Hop to it!"
Top Ten Things Overheard At The ANSI C Draft Committee Meetings: (10) Sorry, but that's too useful.
do you see that! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:do you see that! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:do you see that! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:do you see that! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:do you see that! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why don't they use bittorrent? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure the kernel.org servers are quite formidable, but with a BT-based solution everybody could be happily downloading 2.6-test2 at a steady clip.
Fresh off the cob! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:5, Funny)
Isn't that just an alias for "make clean"?
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:3, Funny)
Don't forget the classic:
easter egg from long ago (Score:3, Funny)
Some versions would print:
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:2, Insightful)
oh. never mind.
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Fresh off the cob! (Score:5, Funny)
Making 'make...' jokes is a sign that you haven't 'make whoopee''d in a long time...
And using the term... (Score:3, Funny)
And using the term "whoopee" is a sign you are 40+ years old.
New in 2.6 (Score:5, Informative)
In-kernel Module Loader and Unified parameter support: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rus
Nanosecond Time Patch: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/021
Fbdev Rewrite: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/011
Linux Trace Trollkit (LTT): http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/020
statfs64: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
POSIX Timer API: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
Shared Pagetable support: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=10
Hotplug CPU Removal Support and Kernel Probes
Re:New in 2.6 (Score:5, Informative)
changelog typo (Score:3, Funny)
(Score: -1, Poster is a Dumbass)
Re:New in 2.6 (Score:2)
is that for real? or is it the obligatory intentional-typo ;-)
You forgot... (Score:5, Funny)
"Emit mocking laughter when incoming TCP profile matches SCO UNIX"
"Increment World Domination progress meter when incoming TCP profile matches Linux"
Re:New in 2.6 (Score:4, Funny)
Hmmm, sounds like something that'll be useful around here.
Re:New in 2.6 (Score:3, Informative)
Being a LKML lurker, here are a few of the new features.
IP Violation (Score:2, Funny)
Re:IP Violation (Score:5, Funny)
Sign this NDA and I'll tell you.
Re:IP Violation (Score:3, Funny)
Old McBride he had some IP
IBIBM
And that IP it was not free
IBIBM
With some SCO code here; Some SCO code there
Here a SCO, there a SCO; Everywhere a SCO SCO
The linux kernel had SMP
IBIBM
And that code was from Project Monterey
IBIBM
The linux kernel had NUMA
IBIBM
Then someone spread rumours
IBIBM
The linux kernel had JFS
IBIBM
And Christoph Hellwig did his best
IBIBM
Old McBride owns none of that [archive.org]
IBIBM
How we'd love to see THAT contract
IBIBM
With a lawsuit here; A counter-suit there
Sue a
Here is a link (Score:5, Funny)
Sincerly Mcbride CEO of SCO
PowerPC? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:PowerPC? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:PowerPC? (Score:2)
Re:PowerPC? (Score:4, Funny)
So what's that got to do with ALSA ?
Re:PowerPC? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:PowerPC? (Score:3, Informative)
SPARC64 seems to work (Score:2, Informative)
One interesting note is that the sun/type5 keymap/keyboard settings for the console/XF86Config don't work anymore. Had to revert to the kernel keymap for the console, and xfree86/pc101 for X11. Also had to change
Re:PowerPC? (Score:2)
What kinda rendering are ya doing? Just curious, I'm a Lightwaver and they only recently have Linux support.
2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:5, Interesting)
I am also running it on my Vaio U-101 (a Pentium 4 600 sub-laptop that fits in a fanny-pack).
Bruce
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:2)
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:5, Informative)
I have no information regarding running it on "stable".
Bruce
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:5, Funny)
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:5, Funny)
Password:
feynman:~ # apt-get remove libc6
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
a2ps aalib1 adduser adjtimex alsa-base alsa-modules-2.4.20-6
alsa-modules-2.4.21-1 alsa-source alsa-utils alsa-xmms anacron apache
apache-common apt apt-show-source apt-show-versions apt-utils at audacity
autoconf automake1.7 autotrace barcode base-files base-passwd bash bc
bible-kjv bible-kjv-text biff bind9-host binutils binutils-dev bison
bittorrent blender bsdgames bsdmainutils bsdutils buffer build-essential
bzip2 ca-certificates calc cdda2wav cdrdao cdrecord cdtool cflow
checksecurity console-common console-data console-tools console-tools-libs
coreutils countrycodes cpio cpp cpp-3.3 cracklib-runtime cracklib2 cron
cutils cvs db4.1-util dc debbugs-el debconf debconf-utils debhelper
debianutils debmake deborphan debsigs debsums debview defoma devfsd
devscripts dh-kpatches dh-make dialog dict dict-devil dict-easton
dict-elements dict-foldoc dict-gcide dict-hitchcock dict-jargon dict-vera
dict-wn dictd dictionaries-common dictzip diff diffstat dlocate dnsutils
doc-base dpkg dpkg-dev dpkg-dev-el dselect dsniff e2fsprogs eboard ed
electric-fence elisp-manual emacs-lisp-intro emacs21 emacsen-common enscript
ethereal ethereal-common exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light
expect expectk fakeroot fdutils fetchmail ffmpeg figlet file fileutils
findutils finger flex fontconfig fortune-mod fortunes fortunes-bofh-excuses
fortunes-min fping freeciv-client-gtk freeciv-server ftp fvwm g++ g++-3.3
gawk gcc gcc-3.3 gdb gdk-imlib1 gettext gettext-base gettext-el gimp1.2
gimp1.2-perl gimp1.2-print gnuchess gnuchess-book gnupg gnuplot gperf grep
grep-dctrl groff groff-base grub gs gs-common gsfonts gsfonts-x11 gtksee gv
gzip hdparm help2man hostname html-helper-mode html2text iamerican ibritish
icmpinfo id-utils ifupdown imagemagick imlib-base imlib-progs indent info
ingerman initscripts iogerman ipmasq iptables iptraf ircii ispell jackd
jhead jpeginfo jpegoptim jpegpixi kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kernel-image-2.4.20-6
kernel-image-2.4.21-1 kernel-package kernel-patch-2.4-preempt
kernel-source-2.4.21 klogd ksymoops lame less lesstif2 libao2 libart-2.0-2
libarts1 libasound2 libatk1.0-0 libaudio2 libaudiofile0 libautotrace3
libblkid1 libbz2-1.0 libbz2-dev libc6 libc6-dev libcap1
libcompress-zlib-perl libcupsys2 libcurl2 libdb1-compat libdb2 libdb3
libdb4.0 libdb4.1 libdb4.1-dev libdns8 libdps1 libesd0 libexpat1 libfam0c102
libfluidsynth1 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libft-perl libg2c0 libgcc1
libgcrypt1 libgd-gif1 libgdbm-dev libgdbm3 libgdbmg1 libggi-target-x libggi2
libggimisc2 libgii0 libgii0-target-x libgimp1.2 libgimpprint1 libglib1.2
libglib2.0-0 libgmp3 libgmp3-dev libgnutls5 libgnutls7 libgpmg1 libgtk-perl
libgtk1.2 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common libgtkxmhtml1 libid3-3.8.3 libid3tag0
libidl0 libidn9 libimage-info-perl libio-string-perl libisc4 libjack0.50.0-0
libjack0.71.2-0 libjpeg-progs libjpeg62 libjpeg62-dev libkpathsea3 libkrb53
liblame0 liblcms1 libldap2 liblocale-gettext-perl liblockfile1 libltdl3
libltdl3-dev liblwres1 liblzo1 libmad0 libmagic1 libmagick++5.5.7
libmagick5.5.7 libmikmod2 libmldbm-perl libmng1 libmpeg1 libnasl2
libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libnessus2 libnet1 libnet1-dev libnetpbm9
libnetpbm9-dev libnids1 libnss-db libogg0 libopencdk4 libpam-cracklib
libpam-dotfile libpam-modules libpam-pwdfile libpam0g libpam0g-dev
libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpcap-dev
libpcap0.7 libpcre3 libperl-dev libperl5.6 libperl5.8 libpisock4 libplot2
libpng10-0 libpng12-0 libpng12-dev libpng2 libpng3 libpopt0 libpstoedit0
libqt3c102-mt libreadline4 libreadline4-dev librecode0 libsasl-modules-plain
libsasl2 libsasl7 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss
libsmpeg0 libsndfile1 libssl-dev libssl0.9.
Works under Debian Woody 3.0 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:2)
Rus
Re:2.6.0-test1 was really boring (Score:2)
Best wishes bruce! Up the irons!
Re:/.'ing soon... impending doom (Score:2)
Re:/.'ing soon... impending doom (Score:2)
Bruce
More hot news!!! (Score:5, Funny)
I just installed FreeBSD (Score:3, Interesting)
I love Linux but hate most of the bloated distro's. However I would love to see how real time and fast this new kernel is. Also I heard you do not have to do a "make modules" when compiling.
Anyway back to my long instant-workstation ports installation.
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:5, Interesting)
Rus
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:4, Funny)
and if you don't install emacs its like 5MB.
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:5, Informative)
The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough [osnews.com]
This will give you a minimal but extremely stable install. If you want newer stuff you can shift to "testing" or "unstable". Unless your are doing cutting edge stuff, this install is bulletproof!
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:2)
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:2)
Well, I don't know about that. If you type "make modules" it does indeed do something. However! Typing "make dep" gets you a message saying that it is no longer required ;)
Re:I just installed FreeBSD (Score:2)
Sunny Dubey
We suck. (Score:5, Funny)
Is this all we can do? Is this Slashdot, or what...
Re:We suck. (Score:2)
Is this all we can do? Is this Slashdot, or what...
I'll just browse over there and hit "reload" a bunch of times... :D
Exactly. This is Slashdot. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:We suck. (Score:2)
Let's see them release a new kernel on a Monday morning at 9am. That'd get their bandwidth pumping.
rOD.
The AMD and Nvidia Issue (mem=nopentium) (Score:4, Interesting)
Thank You
Re:The AMD and Nvidia Issue (mem=nopentium) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The AMD and Nvidia Issue (mem=nopentium) (Score:2)
Re:The AMD and Nvidia Issue (mem=nopentium) (Score:3, Informative)
hooray! (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder if the ACL haters will have a foxhole conversion.
A minimum level of stability needed (Score:5, Informative)
For setups like me, I couldnt test Linux beta versions. The server is really not mission-critical but I believe 2.6 will keep crashing for me till version say 2.6.15 or something. I'll be trying to add my contributions to the community but not at such an alpha stage.
You might be looking at it in the wrong way.... (Score:5, Insightful)
You're *exactly* the type of person who will make the best tester, precisely because it *will* crash for you. It's the tiny bugs that only show up under bizarre/rare combinations of features and usage that can be the most pesky.
Now, I'm not saying you should run a non-stable version on your server, but what about setting up a spare machine simply to replicate what's being done on your server?
Not only will it help out kernel development, it will also mean that you will get a stable kernel for your server sooner.
steve
Re:You might be looking at it in the wrong way.... (Score:3, Insightful)
I ran some of the 2.5.x kernels on this, some of which actually worked and I submitt
You need a test server. (Score:4, Informative)
Have a test server configured exactly (or as close as you can get) like your production server.
Always test new software on the test machine before putting it on the production machine.
This is important whether you're running Linux or Windows or whatever. Even when you're testing new versions or updates of apache or PHP or perl or postgresql or whatever.
Running untested (by you) code on production servers is guaranteed to bite you eventually.
Just save yourself the lost time and headaches and get a test box.
Your time and data are worth far more than the cost on a test box.
2.6 is now available in Debian Stable! (Score:5, Funny)
Issues not disscussed in kernel documentation (Score:3, Interesting)
How to configure support for Virtual Terminals?
Using an install straight from the Debian Woody DVD-R, it can compile, boot and get to X. However there is absolutely no output from "loading kernel...", to the start of X, and cntl-alt-f1 gets be to an unchanged screen, not a login prompt. I know that VT support is not enabled by default (why?), but enabling VT and console on VT does not make any difference. Same thing happens with Mandrake 9.1.
Are compile errors for default configuration OK?
I thought I may have accidentally removed something required for VT support. So I made a completely default install, i.e. "make config" and hold down enter for all questions. However, this would not even compile on gcc 3.95.4 from Debian Woody. Are drivers that don't even compile enabled by default, or is the statement in the docs that any gcc 3.95.x where x>3 will be ok, out of date?
Would getting the .config file from a working install of 2.6-test help?
If so do you have a link?
Why does make modules_install complain about missing dependencies?
Why doesn't it just make the dependencies? What are we meant to do about this?
Also, is NTFS write support ready for end-user testing in non-mission critical situations?
Re:Issues not disscussed in kernel documentation (Score:3, Interesting)
See http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.htm l#write for more info on the old vs new NTFS suppo
Virtual terminals missing? (Score:2)
Try `mount -t devpts devpts
Re:Issues not disscussed in kernel documentation (Score:2)
However there is absolutely no output from "loading kernel...", to the start of X,
Is VGA Console support turned on?
raid (Score:3, Interesting)
You know that you're a nerd when.... (Score:2, Funny)
I didn't.
So OK, I did. But I was already running 2.6.0-test1-mm2 with the O9 scheduler patches.
Grrr damned Linus and his timing (Score:3, Funny)
But I've compiled -test2 now and I hope it works -test1 did
A new kind of karma whoring... (Score:5, Informative)
Grab kernel 2.6.0-test2 via Bittorrent here [bandedartists.com]
Scheduler patch (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Scheduler patch (Score:2)
Re:Scheduler patch (Score:3, Interesting)
Thank you for mentioning it.
I have yet to get this working... (Score:3, Interesting)
I've tried three of these, 2.5.74, 2.6.0-test1 and -test2. Every time I boot up the kernel (bzImage from arch/i386/boot) it says "Uncompressing linux... OK " and that's it. Nothing else. I would really love to get this to work out, especially the native ALSA support (my sound card works great under ALSA, not so great under OSS). I'm wondering if perhaps some of the stuff I've compiled in is inhibiting the boot process.
I have IDE support compiled right in, my CPU is set up correctly (x86/Pentium-II), I'm not using anything fancy like initrd et al, I have ACPI and APM enabled, nss what else I can mention.
Installed module-init-tools and converted over my old profile (just had two aliases for my network cards), depmod runs w/o any problems (I remembered to pass in the symbols for the new kernel).... argh.
Re:I have yet to get this working... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:I have yet to get this working... (Score:5, Informative)
Thank you goes to... (Score:3, Informative)
FWIW, I read the kernel ML daily and I can say that the kernel team strongly desires end user feedback in the form of commentary and bug reports (not flames!)
They're looking for all the possible "oddball" cases (AKA "corner cases") and also for extreme loads such as huge files/filesystems, throughput, mem and net bandwidth, fs integrity, etc.
Regular users should participate; Linus has said that his focus is still on desktop usability and responsiveness. Anyone else who is interested should make sure to enable the -preempt option as well -- amazing performance!
Damn... now I need to try -test2.
Compiling It? (Score:2)
Searching on Google -- even with the "2.6" or "2.5" -- yields some instructions on 1.0 series kernels that trail on for pages and pages. Can someone post a verbose summary of how to build the kernel under 2.6? (I know the basics, of course. Just the make commands
Re:Compiling It? (Score:2, Informative)
cd
make menuconfig
make bzImage modules modules_install
cp arc/[your arch]/boot/bzImage [appropriate place]
modify lilo/grub config, run lilo if required
get the new module-init-tools and install them (debian can apt-get them I believe, gentoo just emerge them)
reboot, enjoy.
xosview problems? (Score:3, Informative)
bdonlan@bd-home-comp bdonlan $ gdb `which xosview`
GNU gdb 5.3
Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-linux-gnu"...(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program:
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
[time passes...]
^C
Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
0x4017af39 in std::basic_istream >& std::operator>> >(std::basic_istream >&, char*) () from
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4017af39 in std::basic_istream >& std::operator>> >(std::basic_istream >&, char*) () from
#1 0x0805d6fb in strcpy ()
#2 0x0805d195 in strcpy ()
#3 0x080561d4 in strcpy ()
#4 0x08054949 in strcpy ()
#5 0x08055a9a in strcpy ()
#6 0x402217a7 in __libc_start_main () from
top shows it comsuming a lot of cpu time while it's hung.
HERE YOU GO (Score:3, Informative)
And you're fired.
Re:Excellent! Time to upgrade.. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Excellent! Time to upgrade.. (Score:5, Funny)
Silly questions meant to start a flame war? Check.
A subtle comment about the great firewall of China, to which most people are against? Check.
Moderators who obviously didn't realized the give-away name "Fu Ling-Yu"? Check, Check.
>0x5e610
Re:Excellent! Time to upgrade.. (Score:2)
i can't believe how many people replied to this with serious advise...
Re:Attention moderators (Score:4, Funny)
-Restil
Re:Woo Hoo (Score:4, Informative)
Actually you don't need this much... (Score:3, Informative)
You could use modutils and, say, gphoto2 [sourceforge.net] along with a script to do it for you.
Since there's likely a specific USB driver, just insert a post-install line (post-install drivername command ) and when you plug it in, the module handler will start things going for you.
Since you're the one writing the script (which doesn't really have to be more than a gphoto command telling it where to put the pictures), you can make it as robust as you like... for instance, set up a file with camera ID to username mappings
Re:Woo Hoo (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Woo Hoo (Score:2)
emerge hotplug
The only thing you need is Support for hotplugging in the kernel.
Other replys obvious troll are morons, wrong too (Score:5, Interesting)
Plug in the camera, and it appears as a SCSI disk. If you have autofs turned on, it should "just work".
With modern Gnome and KDE, it's as easy as plugging it in and double-clicking an icon that appears on your desktop.
Alien pictures! (Score:2)
Re:Question (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This is a start. (Score:3, Interesting)
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:51:36PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > If you are trying to copy BK, give it up. We'll simply follow in the
> > footsteps of every other company faced with this sort of thing and change
> > the protocol every 6 months. Since you would be chasing us you can never
> > catch up. If you managed to stay close then we'd put digital signatures
> > into the protocol to prevent y