Slackware Turns 10 341
Sir_Stinksalot writes "DistroWatch is reporting that Slackware is 10. 'Yes folks, it is exactly 10 years today since the release of Slackware Linux 1.0, complete with a brand new Linux kernel 0.99pl11 Alpha, XFree86 1.3 and even a PS/2 mouse support!' Let's all say happy birthday to Slackware."
Anyone tried it out? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:5, Interesting)
I suppose by "does it still run?" that you mean does it run on brand new hardware? I dont know, when you check today's hardware, say, the NForce2, you need kernel 2.4.21 to have everything supported... and it wont even boot with 2.2, so I seriously doubt that slackware 1 would run on anything more recent than a K6 or P2/3 on an old motherboard. Architechtural changes in the Athlon and P4 would probably not be supported.
Just a guess though, I'd love to be proven wrong.
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:3, Informative)
Mostly because the drivers are closed source, making them troublesome to backport to 2.2...
I booted 2.2 myself the other day, worked like a charm, in some respect even better than 2.4 as 2.4 is less forgiving about faulty DMA than 2.2...
2.4 just went into a lockup while 2.2 at least continued and then just complained about trouble with DMA and didn't initialize the devices that created t
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:5, Informative)
Why shouldn't it still run??
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:2)
My intro to the world of UNIX basically. Yes, I said it...UNIX. U-N-I-X.
Anyway, happy birthday Slack.
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:2)
So like, yeah, he could have been running a P90 9 years ago.
learn basic math, yo.
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:5, Funny)
Your math isn't that great either.
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone tried it out? (Score:2, Interesting)
A stack of 5.25 floppies (Score:2, Insightful)
When you got X up and running on your monitor, you really HAD something. FAQ entries were a woundrous archive of arcane material that made you want to call up the author and say "Thanks, man!" Motherboards that topped out at 64 MB.
Wow.
I STILL remember comparing it to the SCO I had at work, and kept comparing the man pages to the IBM XENIX manuals I had stashed away.
Thanks for the memories, Slakware!
Re:A stack of 5.25 floppies (Score:3, Funny)
So... You're the reason for the lawsuit... damn you!!!
You're lucky you got to have the CD-ROM (Score:2)
I think it was 43 disks altogether; it took me several days to get it installed. What a pain in the ass.
Then I finally FTPed the whole distro down over a 28.8 link. Wow, that was nice, having the whole damned thing on my (then enormous 1054 MB) hard drive.
First Release Annoucement (Score:5, Informative)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Slackware Linux 1.00
Date: 17 Jul 1993 00:16:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Patrick J. Volkerding)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
The Slackware Linux distribution (v. 1.00) is now available for
anonymous FTP. This is a complete installation system designed for
systems with a 3.5" boot floppy. It has been tested extensively with
a 386/IDE system. The standard kernel included does not support SCSI,
but if there's a great demand, I might be persuaded to compile a few
custom kernels to put up for FTP.
This release is based largely on the SLS system, but has been enhanced and
modified substantially. There are two main disk series, A (13 disks) and
X (11 disks). Some of the features:
Series A:
About what you'd expect from SLS series A, B, and C. Plus:
Source for the Linux DOS emulator version 0.49.
The FAQ for kernel level 99pl10.
Kernel source and image at
[compiled with these options: math emulation support, normal hard drive
support, TCP/IP, System V IPC, -m486, minix fs, ext2 fs, msdos fs, nfs,
proc support, and PS/2 style mouse support. You may need to recompile if
you have some other type of busmouse. The kernel was compiled with libc
4.4.1, g++ 2.4.5]
The new keytable utilities.
The NET-2 networking package, preconfigured to use loopback.
A public domain version of ksh, and tcsh 6.04 (with the bugs worked out)
GNU gcc, g++, and Objective-C at versions 2.4.5
Includes and libraries at version 4.4.1
mailx, quota utilities, experimental winapi source, sound drivers.
The TCL toolkit and samples.
In addition, the installation program has been improved to offer more
information about the packages (and the installation procedure itself)
as you install.
The install program can also automatically install LILO, configuring it
to boot either from your master boot record or from OS/2's Boot Manager.
Series X:
Also, all the packages you would get in the SLS X series, plus:
XFree-86 version 1.3.
Open Look Virtual Window Manager made the default window manager.
XS3 server offers support for S3 based video cards.
XV 3.00 Image viewer is included.
PEX files from the XFree-86 distribution are included.
Although TEX support is not included in the Slackware release, the you may
install the SLS T series from the install program.
At this point, the install disk itself is running
Also, installation from other than a 3.5" floppy has not been tested, but might
work. 5.25" floppy will not work because of file sizes. At this point, I have
no plans to support a 5.25" version.
How to get the Slackware(tm) release:
The Slackware release may be obtained be anonymous FTP from
mhd3.moorhead.msus.edu in directory
this release will be in the form of 3.5" disk images which should be copied
to floppies using the RAWRITE.EXE program, or dd under Linux.
Please note that our FTP software does not support limiting the number of
concurrent anonymous logins. PLEASE try to go easy on this machine. If things
get out of hand, access may be restricted.
Other sites are, of course, welcome to help out with the load by mirroring
the distribution.
If you find any problems with the distribution, or if you have any suggestions
for improvements, please let me know. If you know of more up-to-date versions
of software in the distribution, I'd like to hear about that, too.
--
Patrick Volkerding
volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
bf703
Re:First Release Annoucement (Score:5, Funny)
Re:First Release Annoucement (Score:2)
Re:First Release Annoucement (Score:5, Funny)
Wine, is that you? Oh man, remember that crazy summer of 1993?!
Nostalgia (Score:2)
What a great time we had
I remember ... (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course, happy with my Yggdrasil installation (woohoo, a bootable CD distro - in 1992! With X!) I scoffed at the notion of there being yet *another* Linux distro around.
Little did I know, 10 years later, that there would be thousands of Linux choices around. Wow.
Happy birthday Slackware! One of these days, I ought to give you a try
Re:I remember ... (Score:2, Insightful)
Having used Slackware almost exclusively for a year or two, and then switching amongst various OS' afterwards, I found it hard to go back to "old school" ways of Slack, esp. in recent times.
Regardless, Slackware is a great distribution, and contributed to my general understanding of Linux and how things operate within it. It's alwa
Re:I remember ... (Score:2)
SLS was a separate outfit (and distro) that predates Slackware a bit. My first Linux system was SLS...unlike Slackware, you could install SLS from 5.25" floppies. I had a binder with somewhere around 20-30 disks that held the entire thing.
I even ran my BBS on SLS for a while...made a cheesy menu-driven shell for callers that called a mail reader, news reader, etc. If they wanted full-up csh access, that
Re:I remember ... (Score:2, Funny)
Version (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sure Max from Pi would see something in that.
Happy Birthday to my favorite distro (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Happy Birthday to my favorite distro (Score:2, Interesting)
And it still works! (Score:2, Informative)
bash# w (Score:5, Funny)
Re:bash# w (Score:4, Funny)
We're going to need a bigger boat.
Re:bash# w (Score:2)
WHAT? SLACKWARE 10?!? (Score:5, Funny)
HB, Slack... (Score:5, Insightful)
Distro of choice (Score:3, Interesting)
I tried Mandrake and that was better, but my contractees wanted RH if they were to use Linux. RH 7 had enough custom C libraries that I couldn't do a simple Apache build. About that time (~ 3 years ago) I tried Slackware and loved it!
My ONLY irritation is m
my first (Score:5, Interesting)
Darn new fangled Slackers (Score:3, Interesting)
We used v0.95, we downloaded it direct from the Finland FTP site over a 14.4 modem, took all night, and we liked it!
All I wanted to do was run my favorite Unix game: "rogue"
I tried Minix, but rogue wouldn't compile, so I tried Linux and have been using it ever since.
Thomas Dz.
Re:Darn new fangled Slackers (Score:2)
Re:Darn new fangled Slackers (Score:2)
Okay for retro purposes (Score:5, Funny)
Sure, slack is fun to dink around with and it's nice for a sense of history and all that but today as a business about the only distro I can quote out is Linux 9.0. In todays market customers want support and they want to see a product comes in a box with decals and installation books. Fortuen 500 companies don't really care about the "cool" factor.
Warmest regards,
--Jack
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:4, Informative)
I can't, in good faith, offer slackwear up as an option to any of my clients though. They need a world class installation and they need cutting edge features like Gnome 2.2 and Mozilla 1.4.
Download Slack 9. It's got more cutting edge software than my RedHat 8 machine at work. Gnome 2.2, KDE 3.1, Mozilla 1.4. You name it...
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:5, Informative)
Though you'll find Pat keeps everything very much current all by himself; take a look at slackware-current.
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:3, Informative)
For those portage/apt-get/ports fans I suggest taking a look at Swaret [freshmeat.net] which fetches and installs (and upgrades) packages straight from your favourite slack-mirrors...
Troll or poor sense of humor? You decide! (Score:2, Insightful)
For a quick rebuttal of the normal arguments RedHat users and their brethren use against Slackware, you can refer to my handy-dandy already composed never-sent reply [darktech.org] to this message I found on Google. To sum it up: If you don't think Slackware is a serious distr
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:2)
Last I heard, there was no "Linux 9.0" distribution. So much for your sig of getting it right the first time. Best of luck with your endeavours.
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:2)
However, if it wasn't...
Having spent more than my fair share of time in Linux tech support, I can say with a fair degree of certainty (in case there are those who have not encountered the original poster's confusion) that whenever "Linux X.X" is mentioned it's probably a reference to Red Hat. Crap like that used to drive me nuts. No matter how many times you tell these folks that Red Hat != L
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:2)
Re:Okay for retro purposes (Score:2)
He's a consultant...it goes without saying that he's overpaid.
Good reusable announcement (Score:5, Funny)
There are two main disk series, A (13 disks) and X (11 disks).
In a not-so-distant future, Linux distros will also come on 13 disks. Only not on floppy disks. That's how much GNU/Linux has evolved since the early days
Halfway there (Score:2)
Debian 3.0 came on 7 CDs. Actually 8 if you include the international version of disc 1.
And then there are the source CDs...
The future is now. Time to start using DVDs. Now if all the business with DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW was sorted out...
Re:Good reusable announcement (Score:2)
If that were evolution, then we'd all weigh 73 tons.
The Best Distribution (Score:3, Insightful)
Bah Humbug! (Score:3, Interesting)
Linux newbie's log, stardate Thursday 9th June 1994:
"Installation of SLS Linux system [sic]: disks a2-4, b1-8, c1-2, c3 (partial), d1-, t1-3. Disk s1 was corrupt."
And I never looked back...
However, looking over that old notebook now, I see it did take me until December of that year to get my head round sendmail enough to have working mail!
Installed on a ZIP disk (Score:5, Interesting)
And now I get paid to program device drivers on Linux!
Re:Installed on a ZIP disk (Score:4, Funny)
No silly, you're supposed to put the clock speed there, not the frequency of your AC supply ...
Re:Installed on a ZIP disk (Score:2)
No silly, you're supposed to put the clock speed there, not the frequency of your AC supply
Oops! I still have a lot to learn.
Re:Installed on a Toshiba MK234 (Score:2)
Many peoples first (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh what hell it was to get it installed, being that I knew very little about hardware.
Many years later, I laugh at how trivial the setup is now. But had I not had the slackware experience all those years ago, I would probably be a MS monkey, instead of a Linux Geek.
Thank you Slackware (Patrick and all).
Re:Wouldn't be slamdot (Score:2)
The only thing I would change.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Upgrades do not work as smoothly as they ought to
work needs to go into some code in the upgradepkg utility that can migrate the settings, rather than plopping down a new copy of the file and saying you might have to look at it....
Gentoo, my other favorite distrobution suffers from the same problem...
And yes I know if I really want this feature I oughta code it myself and submit patches etc....
I'm to lazy, and my real job takes more time tahn I'd like, so between work and having a life I just haven't got the time...OK...OK
Re:The only thing I would change.... (Score:2)
Re:The only thing I would change.... (Score:2)
Come on this is what Perl is ment to do after all.
My First Time... (Score:5, Funny)
Problem was I was copying *.* instead of * to the each floppy having come from a DOS background. That wasn't nearly as bad as blowing my $800 monitor the next day trying to setup X timings. Ahh, the good old days.
Slackware 1.1.2 (Score:5, Informative)
My first, and still my Favorite (Score:2, Flamebait)
I still prefer slackware to this day, particularly where I need to tweak and change things quickly and easily - it doesn't have any of the "newbie-helper" kruft which the big-brand distro's have, which tends to hinder more than it helps after a while. It is a small, fast, reliable distribution well suited to both Desktop and Server wor
Tooooooootally scared...... (Score:2, Informative)
Next time you may include a "(no pun intended)" in the title, to avoid scaring the shit out of people imaging how 50% of the
Hopefully.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hopefully.... (Score:2)
I actually don't use Debian though, I use Mandrake, and though I haven't checked out Gentoo, I find that Mandrake was very, very helpful to my overwhelmed newbie mind. Knowledgeable users are great, but whe
Re:Hopefully.... (Score:2)
Re:Hopefully.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Hopefully.... (Score:2)
I started with Slackware 2.0... (Score:3)
Today, several years later, I am still using Slackware, version 9.0, on several computers of mine, and it's still one of the best distros around. (And yes, I have tried Mandrake, Red Hat, Caldera and several BSDs)
Thanks a ton to Patrick Volkerding... May your slack prosper and grow forever more!!
Now it's a jolly good distro! (Score:2, Funny)
Now it's a jolly good distro!
Now it's a jolly good distro!
Now it's a jolly good diiistrooo!
And so say all of us.
And so say all of us.
And so say all of uuuuuss.
Maybe they need to change the name.... (Score:2, Funny)
Anyway, after having compiled a report on the commercial viability of open source as an alternative to closed source in the e-commerce/b2b world, I've become quite interested in Linux myself, and thanks to a handy Corel Lin
Re:Maybe they need to change the name.... (Score:3, Informative)
The SubGenius Must Have Slack Church of the SubGenius [subgenius.com]
Re:Maybe they need to change the name.... (Score:2)
You mean exactly like the minature, soft, distribution being sold by a nameless vendor based in Redmond?
link your website to slackware (Score:4, Interesting)
Ironically.... (Score:2)
Viva Slackware! Thanks also to my cube-mate, Pete.
Re:Ironically.... (Score:5, Funny)
Unfortunately, this is turning more and more into a high-school reunion. My first was Sally Henderson.
So was mine!
Me too!
Over here!
I'm going to shower now. I feel sick.
Thanks for the memories (Score:2, Funny)
Happy Birthday Slack! (Score:2, Interesting)
I first heard of Linux in "Unix Review". It was very tempting. I got Slackware on a CD that was included in "The Linux Bible", which I got for $19.95 at a local Barnes and Noble that had just opened. It was the cheapest book with a Linux installation CD that they had. My heart sank when I figured out it was mostly a bunch of HOWTO's, typeset (some very incorrectly). But...
For three hours before I ever put the CD into my machine, I read, checked hardware, and took notes. It
Re:Happy Birthday Slack! (Score:2)
Happy Birthday Slackie! (Score:2)
Happy birthday Slackware. Live long and prosper.
Everyone, on 3! (Score:2)
a favorite (Score:2)
Incidentally, I keep an old slack cd in my laptop bag, as it makes a nice partitioning tool. And it can be a quick startup kit if you want to go through the LFS stuff.
Happy B-day Slack, keep up
A history (Score:2)
Happy Birthday (Score:2)
Congratulations Pat!! (Score:2)
My first contact with Linux ... (Score:5, Insightful)
darkstar login
SLS disks (Score:2)
Maybe I'll try and auction them off on ebay and see if th
Wow. (Score:2)
I feel old.
Long live SLACKWARE! (Score:3, Interesting)
With tears in my eyes I remember all the great moments Slackware has brought to my life. Patrick and others who work on Slackware, you should be proud! When a job is done well it is done the way you guys do it.
LONG LIVE SLACKWARE!
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Happy Birthday Slackware (Score:2)
Slackware was the first distro I used, and guess what - I just installed 9.0 and I love it.
I met Patrick once at a LinuxWorld Convention, and he was such a nice dude. Happy Birthday Slack!!!
And in other news... (Score:2, Funny)
The Nintendo Entertainment System turned 20 this week.
Anyone up for a port?
The "Non-GUI" Installer on Slack (Score:3, Insightful)
Bollocks.
This is what they mean by "non-GUI" installer. Instead of pretty windows and shiny icons shaped like big-eyed penguins, you get something that looks like this:
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Here is our completely and utterly incomprehensible non-gui installation screen:
[ ] I can't stand it, help! What? Where are my shoes? Stupid Slack!
[ ] I think my mouse is broke... stupid Slack!
[ ] Hmmm... I think I may have to use the keyboard... Stupid me!
[ ] Hey, I found the space, arrow, and tab keys! Yay me!
[X] This is pretty easy!
[ OK ] [ Cancel ] [ Back to other Distro ]_ _
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*That's* "Non-GUI?" The way people bitched, kvetched, and whined, I thought when I put in the CD, I'd get a flashing cursor, waiting for me to do some "pull out of the air" command like LOAD"$",8 and enter in the hex value of the primary IDE boot sector address or something. Dude, that may not be mouse-enabled or have fancy anti-aliasing, but it's "GUI" to me because:
- It is graphical (it has lines and colors!)
- It is a user interface (it's for me!)
- It's how I have been installing Red Hat via Serial interface/low RAM anyway - Back when I started computing, the only GUI we had was a menu system like that...
There he goes again... "back in the day" man...
I think Slackware is a pretty tight distro, I wouldn't call it non user-friendly. I'd say it's friendlier than Debian! [not to knock Debian, it also has great uses and noble goals]
I'd say anyone who knows Liunx/UNIX, and has an i386 box should give this a try at least.
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www.punkwalrus.com - They'll only take away my gun when they pry my cold dead fingers off Logitech gamepad
Happy Birthday Slackware!!! (Score:2)
Hail Slackware, Hail Bob! Hail Eris!
ttyl
Farrell
And the journey continues... (Score:4, Interesting)
Why? It's the most streamlined and simple ditribution there is and always has been. After 10 years it still has not succumb to the bloat that all the other distributions have done so far. I don't have to fiddle around with the silly "tools" that other distributions (Linuxconfig, ugh! Yast, ugh!) insist I use just to get my system running, Slackware let's me do it my way.
Long may it continue!
I just wanted to say (Score:4, Insightful)
Trey
Re:The troll in me asks... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The troll in me asks... (Score:4, Informative)
Slackware was where I cut my teeth on Linux and GNU shell software. I did compile my own kernel, as the compiled kernel that was distributed didn't provide support for anything beyond a text mode shell. If you wanted to run X, or access one of the supported sound cards, you compiled the kernel, and it ended up being very stable.
I have since moved off the hardware I started with Slackware on, and in the process have moved onto other distributions. I can honestly say that I don't spend much time remenising about Slackware, as I don't think I want to go back to answering a questionair about the hardware to get to a kernel to support that hardware. I much prefer the module design that came along about the time I moved off of slackware.
-Rusty
Re:The troll in me asks... (Score:2, Insightful)
I hope that he at least applies patches. Otherwise, his machine is probably spamming the world right now.