Linux 2001 Timeline 98
From the people at Eklektix Inc. (ok, everyone knows them simply as LWN or Linux Weekly News) have written the Linux 2001 Timeline (you can read it all at once with this link, though it's 1MB download). Lots of funny notes from Linus, Eric Raymond, RMS, some sad moments. Who would have remembered that Linux kernel 2.4.0 went out only a year ago (Jan. 4, 2001), Eric Raymond promising SourceForge mirrors, and other tidbits -- A definite must-read.
Re:A Question for Slashdot Editors! (Score:1)
Humanoid robots? (Score:4, Funny)
The University of Tokyo makes a Linux-powered humanoid robot
Possible highlights from 2002's timeline:
Sept 2002... Linux-powered humanoid robot gets rooted by 1337 hacker in under 10 minutes.
Oct 2002... Microsoft makes a Windows XP-Powered Humanoid Robot, but it goes berserk, killing 12 innocent bystanders after it got a BSOD.
Nov 2002... Pay per view event: Linux-Powered Humanoid Robot vs. Windows XP-Powered Humanoid Robot in a winner-take-all death match.
Dec 2002... Army of Linux-powered humanoid robots march on Redmond, WA.
Re:Humanoid robots? (Score:1, Funny)
Feb. 2002: Linux takes over the desktop market
Jon Stewart-esque (Score:3, Funny)
In a Jon Stewart voice, "If... you happen... to use Linux".
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
And do not spellcheck.
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
I am contacting you to ask your advice.
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
There haven't been many viruses and Linux, but you mean you never have had a mail reader hose your home directory while setting it up (particularly KMail)? The shit happens.
As an "ease of use" thing, I think Outlook (and more Outlook Express), are pretty competent.
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
So do Linux developers.
I'm not trying to trash Linux, because I use it and Windows XP/2000 regularly. The problem is in having a zealot nature, you tend to dismiss the small problems Linux definitely has. And Joe Sixpack is in no better condition to fix its problems than Windows.
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
Actually, I was referring to the information access restrictions on WinXP, and Microsoft's tendency to insist that everyone except Microsoft employees is too stupid to fix simple bugs. However, I do agree with you.
I'm not trying to trash Linux, because I use it and Windows XP/2000 regularly. The problem is in having a zealot nature, you tend to dismiss the small problems Linux definitely has.
Small problems? :) I've always called them different problems. I'm certainly not a Linux zealot: I was for the first year or so that I ran it, but now I just consider Linux to be the lesser of the two evils (I've considered *BSD, but I don't think I can part with apt-get.)
And Joe Sixpack is in no better condition to fix its problems than Windows.
No, but Joe Sixpack can get help from a programmer friend/relative, or pay a third party to fix things. Note that I am not saying that Linux systems are ready for Joe Sixpack yet.
Re:Jon Stewart-esque (Score:2)
This should be followed with:
All your file are belong to us. Make your time!
Linus flees (Score:4, Funny)
I've just recently started testing 2.4-based distributions - there didn't seem to be any point when they were only nominally stable.
Red Hat 7.2 seems useable, except for the broken pppd.
--Charlie
Re:Linus flees (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Linus flees [pppd bug details] (Score:2, Informative)
The problem, specifically, is in the patches that Red Hat added to Paul Makerras' code base. I had a working configuration that was in regular use for Win98 and MacOS dial-ins running under 6.22, and that same configuration completely failed to work under 7.2. Once I installed the source
This is a known problem that was reported to Red Hat's Bugzilla box as bug #55367 and apparently the patch that causes it was obtained from Dell (see Bugzilla #15738). The comments all refer to windows, but I know for a fact that it also affects pre-OSX macs, and I'd guess most DOS dialups as well.
From your comments I'd guess this doesn't affect dial-out, which is somewhat interesting. You haven't seen an update from Red Hat because there isn't one, they have not addressed the problem yet.
--Charlie
Re:Linus flees [pppd bug details] (Score:1)
Re:Put down the PS2 Controller and Pay Attention (Score:1)
Re:Put down the PS2 Controller and Pay Attention (Score:1, Informative)
"The long-awaited 2.4.0 kernel was released on January 4 (announcement)."
Let's see, Jan 4 2001 to Dec 19, 2001, unless I'm trippin that's basically a fucking year!
and in 2002 ... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:and in 2002 ... (Score:2)
Re:and in 2002 ... (Score:1)
January 4, 2001 (Score:1, Funny)
Stolen straight from the Register (Score:1, Informative)
Mac OS X (Score:2, Interesting)
Does anyone know if the overall market share of Mac OS X is greater than the market share of Linux yet?
Re:Mac OS X (Score:1)
MPAA==RIAA==maffia (Score:5, Informative)
There was another guy in Chicago in the '30s with an Italian-sounding name who used to go around businesses saying "accept our protection or something bad might happen to you".
Jack, you and your lobbyist goons should be sued for spreading thinly disguised threats like your do. Your pathetic schemes will end you making everybody's life miserable just because you don't know how to make a buck without twisting people's wrists. I say get fsck you with a steel wire brush ...
Re:MPAA==RIAA==maffia (Score:1, Funny)
Re:MPAA==RIAA==maffia (Score:2)
Since somebody figured out that identifying yourself as anything other than a white, anglo male gets you rights and priveleges in the US.
I'm descended from Alcoholic-Americans. And I'm tired of the portrayal of my people at Moe's bar in the Simpsons.
They forgot something... (Score:1)
I wasted $200 on Linux Vaporware... The Agenda VR3 PDA Developer's edition. (Stupid Battery Guzzler)
Actually it wasn't a waste, I still love mine, but funny how it wasn't mentioned, at all in 2001.
November 2001 (Score:1)
Slashdot title scan (Score:2, Funny)
--trb
But what is sad (Score:1)
Sometimes it reminds me of a rather old IBM ad on TV. Two guys talking, one reads a paper "We have to get on the internet" "Why?" "That's not in the text."
Like founding a company with a "let's do something cool in Linux" philosphy but without any clue or concept. They're trying to queeze Linux into their marketing scheme and then wonder why it doesn't work.
Re:But what is sad (Score:1)
I doubt that they even wonder why it doesn't work. I suspect that the management guys were just rushing to cash-in on the Linux hype. Too many $$ in their eyes. It was nice that a lot of developers were being paid to do what they love.
I also noticed the frequent layoff references (probably due to my own current layoff
a pattern is emerging in the linux market (Score:2, Interesting)
The linux market is maturing and on its path from hobbyism to professionalism a long way has been completed, yet running is still necessary to catch up.
Nonetheless the dices are showing its eyes and business it is.
The OpenSource EVOLUTION are successful. At least in my eyes. The purpose was to me, to establish a foundation of a counterpart to the monopolistic software business we all love and hate as Microsoft.
No single company was capable of establishing such a counterpart, not even Sun or IBM, yet they have tried, I'll grant them that. So instead companies and people have fought hand in hand in spawning an alternative to MS that could survive and co-exist with Windows. We have succeeded.
Linux will be continue to be free thanks to the GPL and the support, so will the BSD's.
But one thing to acknowledge is that we will see more and more services based on paid subscriptions to be introduced.
As the dark ages matures and the warlords loses their strength due to long lasting battles, threaties are signed and peace and prosperity grows.
Rivers of blood was to be seen, but the blood have not been wasted, it has found new purpose. It ripped up existence, to seed the changes.
We have a new market now. But it is still young.
Compared to before the dark ages, Romans were in control, and Romans alone. Rome collapsed, but still it exist today. But things are different, won't you say?
I didn't say this one was going to be easy to understand. The software and business markets are only a small pocket in time. So are world history. - Open your eyes.
Once I had karma, now I have none.
Mcafee Qoute Interesting.... (Score:2)
ESR. (Score:2)
Surprised at 29 cent burger day?
--saint
Re:Timeline (Score:2)
Even Microsoft took less than 10 years to become less shitty. What the hell is taking so long, open source people?
The same reason it's taking Microsoft so long. Too much programming, not enough design work, and not enough attention paid to quality and efficiency.
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You can tell which programmers is contributing to the problem: anyone who says "but with today's 2GHz computers, that's not really a problem" is too lazy or too unskilled to actually FIX the problem, so they simply justify it. It's the same problem as Microsoft has had, unfortunately.
</rant>