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sdriver writes "For those of us who enjoy *panic*, *oops*, and suddenly seeing their video BIOS... the newest version is out! Be the first on your block to submit a new patch! ;) " If you don't know where to get it, you probably should stick to your warm and cuddly 2.2.x kernel *grin*. Now outta my way, I wanna crash my laptop!
A new Linux development kernel. (Score:2)
Re:3rd time lucky maybe (Score:1)
Re:argh (Score:1)
Re:AIX code in Linux (Score:1)
Using development kernels is more critical today (Score:1)
This is because the newer kernels are using more and more cutting-edge technologies, like USB, AGP, and stuff (and oh man, it seems there are much more advances in the 2.3.xx tree than the 2.1.xx one, and we're only at the patch level 41, not 120-and-some like 2.1.xx) - and we need more and more testers to test this bleeding new code.
I just saw that 2.3.41 has a new CPU listed in, "K6/II/II" (typo here), now I'd like to know if it'll speed up my K6-2 by a factor of 5 :P
I myself don't have this new stuff (USB, FireWire, I2O, I2C), but since USB and AGP support support is the critical part of the 2.3.xx branch, we need ppl to test this. Now if nVidia can release drivers that supports DRI..
Re:Volume Manager, baby (Score:1)
Re:USB support? (Score:1)
no problems with any USB
Undoing moderation... (Score:1)
Re:[PATCH] New Kernel Module: Uptime.o (Score:1)
Not that I'm saying devfs is bad or anything, I want to keep as far away from that holy war as Ican.
Agreed. (Score:1)
Re:One exception... (Score:1)
pest
ESS Sound FIXED! (Score:1)
Well, after a minor bit of fiddling to get it configured and built, I fired it up. No obvious problems. I did see a couple of interesting new things, like NFSv3.
Then I checked my RealPlayer. I've been fighting a problem for a while now, ever since I upgraded my MB to one with a built in ESS Solo 1 sound subsystem. All other sounds play fine (Quake, etc), but RealPlayer always screwed up the sample rates. Everything sounded like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
So, I tried it with the 2.3.41 kernel, and it works now! I haven't read all the release documentation, but there must have been fixes to the ESS drivers.
Obviously, I'm taking my life and data in my hands, but I just wanted to say that there ARE advantages to being on the cuting edge.
Just make sure you have good backups...
Re:A new Linux development kernel. (Score:1)
wish it had supermount (Score:1)
"Logic . . . merely enables one to be wrong with authority"
On the subject of kernels (Score:2)
I have recently been required to describe what the heck a "kerenl" is to some people in close relation to myself. Of course there is the obvious for us geeks, but there are two other possible interpretations that I can think of:
And we make Beowulf clusters out of these things?
Re:Can I post release info to /. now too? (Score:1)
So how is this more important than 2.1-2.2 or any other devel-to-stable releases? (Yeah I know, just wanted to bring up a discussion...)
You moderators sure don't know what's flamebait. Simple reason: No flames. Hah.
Ken
Re:Can I post release info to /. now too? (Score:1)
Okay, never mind, this is too deep to start any discussion. I gotta watch how many times I click in the reply lists :-).
Re:[PATCH] New Kernel Module: Uptime.o (Score:1)
Yep, the admin creates
``Unstable''? (Score:3)
What exactly does ``unstable'' mean? Or, more accurately, what does ``stable'' mean? The 2.2.13 and 2.2.14 kernels (supposedly ``stable'') have rather nasty inode leaks. And 2.2.11 and 2.2.12 had a memory leak (which is why SGI based their SGI Linux 1.1 [sgi.com] kernel patch on 2.2.10). Hmm... Looks like stability ``leaves somewhat do be desired''.
Featurefulness perhaps? Well, one patch I find extremely useful is the ext3 filesystem. (Now that seems stable enough, despite the frightening version number: 0.0.2c) But Stephen Tweedie hasn't finished porting that to 2.3.x. Another useful patch is the international crypto patch, and that doesn't come for 2.3.x... Or the Openwall security patch [openwall.com]: ditto. Hmm... Looks like I'll stick to 2.2.x for some time. (And, no, it isn't exactly ``warm and cozy''.)
I'd like to try the 2.3.x kernels by using User mode Linux [sourceforge.net], but so far the only thing I've got from that is a core dump.
Sigh...
Offtopic... (Score:1)
Give yourself a big pat on the back.
Then get round to finishing that reading course.
Re:3rd time lucky maybe (Score:1)
before the pre-patches.
Re:Unstable warning (Score:3)
If you can test, do! We all benifit in the end.
Krakken
Hotsying visor over USB on 2.3.41 (Score:2)
Enjoy.
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Re:Unstable warning (Score:1)
If you're into hacking the linux kernel you should join the kernel mailing list and hack away.
If for some reason your hardware is not supported by the 2.2.* tree, go for it. Compilation and use are no different than earlier kernels for the most part. By all means be sane and keep an old kernel ready with lilo if something goes wrong, but don't be afraid just because it says developmental. I've been running the 2.3.* tree with xfree's pre4.0 tree for a while. Unstable certainly does not mean it doesn't work.
Re:win95a (Score:1)
A couple of months (2) is around 60 days.
Many months (your words) I take it to be more than 60 days.
Last I checked, win95a was hard coded to crash after about 49 days, due to a bug in the OS, of course it was rare to see a win95a machine work for more than 4 hours, so this bug was rarely seen. Stop trollin
Re:Unstable warning (Score:2)
I'm also trying to get ALSA 0.5.1 working but it keeps throwing up due to problems to allocate contiguous memory for DMA buffers. It doesn't seem to be kernel related however, since others have it working in the 30's and 40's. The CPiA (webcam II) video4linux driver doesn't like my system as well.
Re:will we see a new FS with 2.4 (Score:1)
Re:USB support? (Score:1)
Re:v2.3.41 -- test it and help us! (Score:1)
Kernel TODO list (Score:1)
Is there a TODO list for the Linux Kernel?
I know there's a lot of people who would like to contribute back to the linux community, but dont know where to start. I search all of the kernel mailinglist, but the only replies to questions like this are people responding with specific things that need help. I was more looking for a long bulleted list, preferable pusblished on kernelnotes.org or similar.
Re:Tulip driver support (Score:1)
I really wouldn't worry about 2.3 support for it
HTTP vs. FTP (Score:1)
HTTP can do that too. Read the man page for wget sometime
In case you're wondering, there was a nice debate about this on our LUG mailing list. Take a look at the archives of the discussion:
http://nslug.ns.ca/pipermail/nslug/1
#define X(x,y) x##y
Re:Tulip driver support (Score:1)
To clarify the one of the replies to your question - yes, Tulip support has been in the kernel for some time. However, support for card which require newer drivers has not been, at least until 2.2.14 (and the version included in 2.3.x is the old standard 0.89H).
I/O Completion Ports (Score:2)
I/O Completion Ports were introduced in Windows NT 3.51, not Windows 2000.
Re:``Unstable''? (Score:2)
Can you give me your email address so we can discuss this somewhere else than on /.? Else you can write to me.
Unstable warning (Score:1)
People, be aware that this is an unstable, development kernel. Don't just use it for being "on the edge" if you're not willing to hack some real C.
... (Score:2)
i am a link [kernel.org]
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in a world of deceit, open your eyes
USB support? (Score:2)
Can I post release info to /. now too? (Score:1)
Or can I start posting my release info to slashdot front page?
Well, I released GNOME-Iconedit last week, so http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~u07ih/gnome-iconedit
enjoy
AIX code in Linux (Score:4)
What does AIX have to offer Linux? Is there anything worth mining? Anything that could help the move towards 2.4?
Re:AIX code in Linux (Score:1)
v2.3.41 -- test it and help us! (Score:5)
(38 and on), I've not experienced ANY disk-corruption
whatsoever. There are, however, lost of other bugs,
both known and unknown. Why? Because us (relatively)
few developers can't possibly try every hardware
combination. We have a couple of new subsystems
in v2.3 which needs a lot of testing (USB (even if
it exists in v2.2, this one has been rewritten
quite extensively), FireWire, PCMCIA, I2C, I2O), as well as a lot of new drivers for soundcards, videocards, TV/Radio-cards, disk-controllers etc. The list can be made much longer.
Oh, and if you have an SMP-machine, you should definitely try v2.3.xx; a lot of SMP-related changes has been made, to improve the performance.
So please, unless you have production-machines, give the v2.3.41 or upcoming developmental kernels a try. You will certainly help both yourself and the Linux-community out in the long run.
If (when) you find bugs, submit them to linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu.
Re:AIX code in Linux (Score:1)
move towards v2.4 (it is after all supposed to be feature-frozen, eventhough this isn't perfectly true...), but for v2.6, it would be great
to receive help with, for instance, porting Linux
to older models of the RS/6000. Also, IBM has a quite
nice filesystem, which would be a treat to support in
Linux, at least for compability reasons.
[PATCH] New Kernel Module: Uptime.o (Score:4)
Uptime.o creates a
To use, simply run insmod uptime, and then echo the number of seconds of your uptime to
Never become the target of low uptime jokes again! Download uptime.o today - amaze your friends, terrify your enemies, and become king of all that is Linux!
- Hat (with too much time on his hands)
Re:Unstable warning (Score:4)
Re:USB support? (Score:4)
USB. Keyboard/Mouse/Joystick/Serial ports should work fine,
together with some less common stuff (some cameras,
for instance.) All in all, the USB-support itself
seems quite stable, but the problem is the lack
of drivers for everything but the most common things
(that is, those things that share a common standard or
one of the USB-developers own...)
If you have some device that isn't supported, why not either write a driver for it (IF you know how to do so, of course),
or contact the makers of the device and ask them for a Linux-driver (despite what many companies seem to believe, the consumer is always right. Well, apart from those that buy Micro$oft products, of course; they can't be right in their heads...)
Tulip driver support (Score:2)
Daniel
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Re:[PATCH] New Kernel Module: Uptime.o (Score:1)
Re:USB support? (Score:1)
2.3.40 bit me! (Score:1)
Last night my HD began thrashing like I've never seen, the system crawled to a halt, and happily froze.
Upon recovery, files are *everywhere* except where they're supposed to be. I did a quick install on an empty partition, and I'm in the process of saving all the important stuff I can find. I'll then wipe the HD clean and do a fresh install.
This is the first time I have ever had problems with a devel kernel, (and I've been using them for 3 years or so) so it's not too likely, but beware.
Hopefully 2.3.41 won't put me in this situation.
Oh well, at least it happened on a friday so I have time to repair.
Re:netfilter (Score:1)
Netfilter (at least in 2.3.40) is optional. You can switch a little flag in the Networking config section that looks something like "use netfilter". Help on that says that if it is not enabled, you get good old ipchains etc.
Unfourtunately, I don't think you can enable both at the same time.
Re:USB support? (Score:2)
Why? The primary recommendation of that link is to go out and buy the book [oreilly.com] I linked.
Would you prefer a Fatbrain link [fatbrain.com] instead?
WTF? (Score:1)
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Re:WTF? (Score:1)
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Re: "Ph1rst P05t" (Score:1)
yay (Score:2)
"look at that. breach hull, all die. even had it underlined."-crow
Excuse the heck out of me... (Score:1)
Re:Unstable warning (Score:1)
One exception... (Score:1)
I hope the DOJ splits their input device division into a seperate company - watch every other company rot away into oblivion.
Re:Can I post release info to /. now too? (Score:1)
"how bout i shove my ovipositor down your throat and lay eggs in your chest-but i'm not an alien."
You must be new... (Score:1)
Re:Excuse the heck out of me... (Score:2)
Re:You must be new... (Score:1)
pre-patches for v2.2.0...
Re:``Unstable''? (Score:2)
Can I have a look at the console output?
As far as I know, the latest (2.3.36) user-mode kernel is stable. If you know otherwise, then tell me what's happening, and I'll fix it.
Jeff
netfilter (Score:1)
I was wondering if anyone has had some trouble migrating from 2.2.x to 2.3.x and if there are some great lessons to learn.
Volume Manager, baby (Score:2)
I would love to have AIX's volume manager, which has everything you want in a partition manager, and more.
Unfortunately, I think they license it from someone else (not sure who), so I don't think they can release the source code. :(
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Re:v2.3.41 -- test it and help us! (Score:1)
Thus, I have to choose between 2.3 without net or 2.2 with net. Guess what the choice is...
Holger
Re:Excuse the heck out of me... (Score:1)
Re:[PATCH] New Kernel Module: Uptime.o (Score:1)
/Me sighs.... So much for the days of poking in
Re:USB support? (Score:3)
Hell, write one even if you *DON'T* know how. You'll learn a shitload.
Start here:
Linux Device Drivers [oreilly.com]
Re:USB support? (Score:2)
No driver yet for my USB CompactFlash reader though
BTW I've been useing kernel 2.3.29 since it came out with no problems. No real reason to upgrade.