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Red Hat Plans to Add AI to Fedora and GNOME 49

Posted by BeauHD from the only-a-matter-of-time dept.
In his post about the future of Fedora Workstation, Christian F.K. Schaller discusses how the Red Hat team plans to integrate AI with IBM's open-source Granite engine to enhance developer tools, such as IDEs, and create an AI-powered Code Assistant. He says the team is also working on streamlining AI acceleration in Toolbx and ensuring Fedora users have access to tools like RamaLama. From the post: One big item on our list for the year is looking at ways Fedora Workstation can make use of artificial intelligence. Thanks to IBMs Granite effort we know have an AI engine that is available under proper open source licensing terms and which can be extended for many different usecases. Also the IBM Granite team has an aggressive plan for releasing updated versions of Granite, incorporating new features of special interest to developers, like making Granite a great engine to power IDEs and similar tools. We been brainstorming various ideas in the team for how we can make use of AI to provide improved or new features to users of GNOME and Fedora Workstation. This includes making sure Fedora Workstation users have access to great tools like RamaLama, that we make sure setting up accelerated AI inside Toolbx is simple, that we offer a good Code Assistant based on Granite and that we come up with other cool integration points. "I'm still not sure how I feel about this approach," writes designer/developer and blogger, Bradley Taunt. "While IBM Granite is an open source model, I still don't enjoy so much artificial 'intelligence' creeping into core OS development. This also isn't something optional on the end-users side, like a desktop feature or package. This sounds like it's going to be built directly into the core system."

"Red Hat has been pushing hard towards AI and my main concern is having this influence other operating system dev teams. Luckily things seems AI-free in BSD land. For now, at least."
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  • systemctl stop ai (Score:3)

    by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @03:58PM (#65141825) Homepage
    systemctl disable ai

    This is getting ridiculous.
  • Jumping the Shark

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jmccue ( 834797 )

      This and I also call it "turing RHEL, CentOS and Fedora" into Windows 11.

      Hopefully Linus has the sense in keeping AI out of the kernel, but if he relentd, off to *BSD.

  • AI code completion (in IntelliJ) is useful about 20% of the time. It is good for chuckle now and then.

  • Much needed (Score:3)

    by RUs1729 ( 10049396 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:13PM (#65141863)
    At least in the case of Gnome, much intelligence - artificial or otherwise - is needed.

  • Good way to lose market share (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nightflameauto ( 6607976 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:23PM (#65141879)

    Red Hat seems determined to burn every bridge to the greater Linux community they can. Making an optional AI add-on would be fine and probably something people would check out. Making a bolted on, always on AI that is fully integrated with the core install sounds like Microsoft level stupid creeping its way into Linux Land. Granted, Red Hat was always the most wanna-be Windows of all the Linux systems, at least until Ubuntu came along saying, "Hold my Beer," but this is still a sticking point for some folks that would rather stick to Linux, and some of those people are decision makers when it comes to tech purchases for good sized companies.

    • I'd say redhate is still more like Windows, and Ubuntu is more like Mac, down to the nerfed interface.

      • Re: Good way to lose market share (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Brain-Fu ( 1274756 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:54PM (#65141985) Homepage Journal

        It's very easy to swap out to a different desktop environment on Ubuntu.

        • Yeah, no shit. It's easy on every Linux distribution worth using. That doesn't change the fact that the default install has a crap interface. You can change it on redhate too, why didn't you make sure to say that as well so all the obvious things we all know were expressed?

        • It's the snap packages that got me. It's like, what if we had packages that are REALLY SLOW and you can't access half your files (the less security sensitive half stored in /mnt/bigdisc).

          I upgraded my ancient and too slow laptop from ubuntu to mint and suddenly firefox started almost instantly and it wasn't too slow. Yep, I know I can futz enough with ubuntu, but if I don't like the UI and don't like the other stand-out feature (snaps), why choose ubuntu?

          Heh also, just downloaded compiled blender 4.3. It's

          • Last time I ran snaps, they were really poorly integrated. Like the theme didn't carry over and the files were in a weird place. I don't know if any of that still applies, but I don't plan to ever find out again. I went from Ubuntu to Devuan and I'm pleased as punch.

            • Last time I ran snaps, they were really poorly integrated. Like the theme didn't carry over and the files were in a weird place. I don't know if any of that still applies, but I don't plan to ever find out again. I went from Ubuntu to Devuan and I'm pleased as punch.

              I don't even care all that much about themes, and fancy integrations. I think the problems run deeper.

              The main problem for me was the sandboxing. Snaps are prevented from reading most paths on your system. This seems like a good idea, except not

    • I mean, I straight-up ditched Windows as my primary platform after years of thinking it was "OK enough" after it started looking like Recall was going to be a required feature. At least I use KDE on Linux...

      • At least I use KDE on Linux...

        Well, no one's perfect but at least you are trying.

        • Yes. When I saw the insanity that was going to become Gnome 3, I recoiled in horror. Then, I investigated KDE by going to its website to see what it had to say for itself. I found lots and lots of advocacy, but no facts to explain why it was so good. I sent them an email pointing this out and asking for a few facts. What I got back was more advocacy, and not one fact. At that point, I started looking at other DEs and ended up with Xfce, and I've been very happy with it ever since. It does what I need
    • They don't want to be part of the Linux community. They just used it to lure in <choke> "the enterprise" market, wait till they are technologically locked in ... then ... you know .... change the terms of service and raise rates.

      Bingo. Here we are.

      If there are four things we've learned from crowdstrike, vmware, and recall, it's that "the enterprise" crowd has no imagination, no leadership, will take what they are given, and pay what they are told to pay.

      What's there not to like ?

  • Doesn't Matter... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by divide overflow ( 599608 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:27PM (#65141891)
    ...don't care.

    Red Hat is dead to me.
    Dead, dead, dead.

  • In other words ... (Score:3)

    by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @04:29PM (#65141897)

    We been brainstorming various ideas in the team for how we can make use of AI to provide improved or new features to users of GNOME and Fedora Workstation.

    Literally a solution in search of a problem. (*sigh*)

  • It's pointless to include resource-hogging AI software--because everyone is doing their "AI" online, anyway. It only serves to add another layer or doubt, mitigating trust and security. They say: RedHat is OldHat, but perhaps it should be changed to TwoLettersOnBoxHat.

  • Maybe they finally can reduce the UI down to one button that says "do what I want".

    • There's already an OS that does that. Sadly I forget what it's called (and there's too much AI spam for me to find it in a search). Though it has two other important buttons. The other buttons are "Correct" and "Wrong". You give it input and it does something random. Then you correct it or not and it slowly learns what you want. Of course it's just a research OS, but it's over 10 years old at this point.

  • I've been RH user for 29 years...

    Forcing AI on me may make me leave ...

  • RedHat eschewed supporting NVidia for way too long, they really only got serious about this as far as I can tell March 2024. Is this or isn't this an announcement of vaporware? Do they have one box that this works on, or is this really going to work in general on all of the computers out there currently running Ubuntu for the NVidia support? Their technical specs are lacking important details like which NVidia chips are supported.

    And what is their licensing plus-up cost for NVidia support? We are talk

  • Redhat: We're still relevant! Look we AI! Please! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tough Love ( 215404 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @05:10PM (#65142045)

    But no redhat, you're not relevant. You're just a fading vassal of IBM. You're a rotting old corpse of what once was an epic empire of open. Could have been great, but no.

    Anyway, I do not miss RPM. Seldom have to deal with it any more these days.

  • IBM/Red Hat (Fedora) forcing IBM Granite Ai (Score:3)

    by JakFrost ( 139885 ) on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @05:53PM (#65142153)

    This heading is more appropriate for this story.

    In the spirit of Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation's GNU Project let's get the names right people.

    IBM/Red Hat
    Amazon/Ubuntu
    GNU/Linux
    SCO/Unix
    Foot/Mouth
    GNU/Herd
    SystemD/Windows-WannaBe
    Hand/Wallet

    * Ubuntu at one point integrated Amazon into their UI for searches or something.

  • Yeah blah blah blah. Lets wait and see what actually happens before saying I am never ever this or that.

    I am willing to give Redhat a chance. The tools that were AI augmented at the Denver conference looked useful. I think if they go along that trac it will be fine.

  • I guess I'm switching distros then. Oh well that's what happens with corporate overlords... they take the joy out of the world in the name of shareholder value.

  • So this is Workstation only, those of us using any other spin (I use MATE) are safe for a while. Safe from what? From bloat I would never use.

  • The Gartner hype curve is, of course, in massive full swing with AI. But as with a lot of tech, there might be something good come out the other end. Can't blame companies for trying to find what that could look like. And it's open source, so it should be easy to change out the desktop if it doesn't turn out good.

  • A feature that nobody asked for. And that nobody is willing to pay to use. And that costs companies collectively trillions of dollars to develop.

    Big Tech is bad at business. That's the only conclusion that I can think of that explains everything.

  • There are useful tools that can really benefit your desktop.
    For example here is a clone of Apple's writing tools: https://github.com/theJayTea/W... [github.com]

    You don't need to include the "Write me a ..." Stuff (even though including a model means you can have that for free in addition), but summarization and autocorrect on steroids are useful tools and not having each program bring its own model but providing features in the system helps to avoid duplication, storage requirement and required (v)RAM when multiple prog

  • I'm against LLMs but it seems like y'all are getting your panties in a twist over nothing

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