Reactions To the News That Microsoft's Edge Browser Is Coming to Linux (msn.com) 194
"Microsoft is bringing Edge to Linux, for all the Microsoft fans running Linux," jokes the headline at the Inquirer. ("We can just imagine the amount of bunting and party poppers that the Linux community has just ordered. After all, why wouldn't you want a browser from the company that you joined Linux to get away from?") And the headline at Liliputting quips that the Edge browser "is coming to Linux (whether you want it or not)," calling the move "the latest evidence that Microsoft's relationship to Linux has changed a lot in recent years.
But TechRadar had an even more sardonic headline. "Hell freezes over as Microsoft Edge comes to Linux." One other thing to consider is that the introduction of Edge to Linux is something of a thorny subject in that the folks who choose a Linux distro often do so to break away from the chains of Microsoft and Windows (or indeed Apple). So certainly some of the more fervent open source types out there may not welcome a Microsoft browser with open arms, and doubtless it will be regarded with suspicion in some quarters. No matter how much Microsoft has been banging the open source drum in many different ways in recent times.
That said, there will doubtless be Linux users who are curious, and may want to pick up a mainstream alternative to Firefox on Linux which, when compared to Chrome -- with its famous memory hogging antics -- makes a far preferable choice in some respects. Edge will also do streaming better (by default Chrome limits you to 720p when you're trying to watch a spot of Netflix). All the testing feedback about Edge has been pretty positive in the main thus far, too, so maybe that will persuade even doubters to at least consider it.
One thing's for sure: it will certainly be interesting to see the reaction Microsoft's browser gets when it is deployed to Linux.
Edge may face a rocky reception. "I am not feeling a tingling all over at the thought of Edge coming to Linux," posted one commenter on Beta News. "It's not really necessary to bring Linux down to the level of Windows 10."
But how do Slashdot's readers feel? What's your reaction to the news that Microsoft's Edge browser is coming to Linux?
But TechRadar had an even more sardonic headline. "Hell freezes over as Microsoft Edge comes to Linux." One other thing to consider is that the introduction of Edge to Linux is something of a thorny subject in that the folks who choose a Linux distro often do so to break away from the chains of Microsoft and Windows (or indeed Apple). So certainly some of the more fervent open source types out there may not welcome a Microsoft browser with open arms, and doubtless it will be regarded with suspicion in some quarters. No matter how much Microsoft has been banging the open source drum in many different ways in recent times.
That said, there will doubtless be Linux users who are curious, and may want to pick up a mainstream alternative to Firefox on Linux which, when compared to Chrome -- with its famous memory hogging antics -- makes a far preferable choice in some respects. Edge will also do streaming better (by default Chrome limits you to 720p when you're trying to watch a spot of Netflix). All the testing feedback about Edge has been pretty positive in the main thus far, too, so maybe that will persuade even doubters to at least consider it.
One thing's for sure: it will certainly be interesting to see the reaction Microsoft's browser gets when it is deployed to Linux.
Edge may face a rocky reception. "I am not feeling a tingling all over at the thought of Edge coming to Linux," posted one commenter on Beta News. "It's not really necessary to bring Linux down to the level of Windows 10."
But how do Slashdot's readers feel? What's your reaction to the news that Microsoft's Edge browser is coming to Linux?
IE for Unix (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: IE for Unix (Score:5, Interesting)
Yup, some of us were pushed by management to deploy this as the standard company wide browser (IE on Windows and Unix). Also remember Netscape wasn't free for corporate use, technically.
As soon as IE had a monopoly on browsers, they dropped it.
Some of us need a lot of trust building to see MS as having changed.
Still waiting for my Linux Skype for Business, now Teams client. My Office for Linux client. Or any MS Linux product without massive compromises (SQL server).
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They did the same thing to macs. Back in the pre OsX days you had a choice between Netscape and IE. For some corporate type things you had to use IE due to all the stupid IE only technologys , notably VB script, as well as their..... curious.... implementation of CSS/HTML. I cant remember if ActiveX made it over to the mac, but I highly doubt it.
So when they dropped IE, it was pretty chaotic. Thankfully Netscape was pretty adequate , and even during that chaotic time between Netscape and Firefox since micro
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Re: IE for Unix (Score:2)
Chrome does all of that perfectly for me.
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Re:IE for Unix (Score:4, Funny)
What about MS Linux? (Score:3)
Laugh, but who expected Apple to switch to a unix based system back in the day? And MS have form - they used to have Xenix before their idiotically binned it (well, sold it to SCO, same thing).
Perhaps they realise the Windows kernel with its poor process model and generally clunky 1990s architecture has reached its limit and they're looking around for something else and in the meantime getting their popular apps to run on Linux. What better way to go that use the linux kernel, put some Windows lipstick on
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The sad part was at the time IE for Solaris actually ran better than Netscape.
Choice (Score:5, Insightful)
Another browser for Linux is another choice for Linux users and Linux is all about choice. No one is being forced to use it if they don't want to, but any Linux user who has a problem with more choices is a hypocrite. It's time to put aside your blind hatred.
Re:Choice (Score:5, Insightful)
It's time to put aside your blind hatred.
What does blind hatred have to do with Microsoft, which is distributing one of the most offensive pieces of spyware ever produced as an operating system, with a EULA that gives them the right to snoop all your data and activity and share it with anyone they want?
any Linux user who has a problem with more choices is a hypocrite.
I don't have a problem with more choices, I have a problem with Microsoft. Wake me up when they give back the money they stole by illegally abusing their monopoly position in the market (as determined by the USDOJ.)
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offensive pieces of spyware
Offensive to whom? I'm sorry to say this but privacy is of interest to only a select few. If you want to see who is interested in privacy you can just openly in a crowded area say "OK Google, who is concerned about their privacy" and watch as the Google borg responds with a resounding "no one".
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Well that's not true in the slightest.
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Take a chill pill. If your choices locked you into Windows it's nobody's fault but yours. With an attitude like yours I don't see anyone giving you a helpful answer. Seldom do I have a problem with the OSS communities but on proprietary OS's like Windows, OSX, and to some extent Android in particular deployments there is a void. A complete abandonment.
All I know is that I can't fix stupid and every time I see someone locking themselves into one OS I consider that stupid. Not to mention a gravy train of mon
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I have no idea how you came up with the idea that I'm locked into Windows.
I'm saying all available OSes are crap. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I'm using OSX on my work Laptop. I have a Win10 VM running on it. It's a clusterfuck to work with both and I wish genital herpes on every single human being involved in those two OSes.
Okay, I'm with you so far...
And then there's Linux... I am VERY sure that I could get Linux to behave at some point but the amount of work involved in that is just staggering.
If you bought hardware for Linux it would "just work", just like when you buy hardware for Windows or OSX. Well, better than OSX. If your problem is software-related, then it may be subtle or you may just be missing something. Care to explain where it's failing you?
Not to mention that back when the Linux community was a bunch of pricks but at least you received a helpful answer. These days they just leave it at being pricks.
That hasn't been my experience, but then, I haven't actually needed to ask for help with Linux in ages. When I have a problem, I find the answer with google.
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Totally unlike Ubuntu, which sends all your search strings back to the mothership, or Chrome, which sends every keystroke you type in the URL bar back to the mothership.
Whataboutism is what people do when they don't have any valid arguments. You can turn that stuff off in Ubuntu, and even in Chrome last I checked. You can't turn off telemetry except in corporate versions of Windows 10.
As for the rest of your comment, only someone like you would construct a fake quote like that. Run away, there will be more facts shared, and they apparently frighten you.
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Complaining about imagined whataboutism is what people do when they don't have any valid arguments. You have no facts, only memories of the 90s.
Re:Choice (Score:5, Insightful)
Bullshit. The world is full of moronic Windows System Admins and IT upper management idiots who might declare that Edge is the standard for all systems in the company, forcing the Linux admins who know what a stupid idea it is to install Microsoft's spyware on their otherwise secure systems. Your naivety in believing everyone has a choice is exactly that ... phenomenal naivety. Calling it "blind hatred" makes you the one who is blind. Those of us who can see Microsoft for what it really is have a very legitimate reason to avoid their software like the plague. We don't have "blind hatred", you have blind Microsoft acceptance.
Re:Choice (Score:5, Insightful)
"No one is being forced to use it if they don't want to"
Bullshit. The world is full of moronic Windows System Admins and IT upper management idiots who might declare that Edge is the standard for all systems in the company, forcing the Linux admins who know what a stupid idea it is to install Microsoft's spyware on their otherwise secure systems. Your naivety in believing everyone has a choice is exactly that ... phenomenal naivety.
If your work environment is defined by "moronic Windows System Admins and IT upper management idiots" you never had a choice, and the release of Microsoft's Edge browser on Linux doesn't change that one iota.
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I see a lot of Firefox and Chrome (like, both) on "better managed" desktops and it turns out to be driven by third party web apps who have made them "preferred" options and basically won't provide much in terms of tech support unless you're running their preferred browser.
IMHO, these days the "blind acceptance" for MS products is Office 365 and aspects of Azure. People seem to just not care they are getting locked in forever and losing all negotiating power.
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Re:Choice (Score:5, Interesting)
It's time to put aside your blind hatred.
It isn't blind. It's hard-earned.
Blindness is not seeing the spots on the leopard, or the stinger on the scorpion, or not learning from history.
Every time Microsoft has extended an olive branch, it has been solely to use it as leverage to pull its victims onto the sword.
Microsoft can not be trusted. Ever.
Re:Choice (Score:4, Insightful)
Microsoft can not be trusted. Ever.
I wouldn't quite say "ever". That's a bit unfair. Particularly when we're talking about blind hatred.
If they were to open source some stuff we might actually give a crap about, like DirectX and Windows and Skype, and they were generally nice and good and kind and didn't screw anyone over, and they kept all that up for...say...35 years, then I'd start thinking about trusting them. A little bit. Maybe even enough that I'd consider running some of their non-critical software on actual physical hardware.
If they wanted to make an actual meaningful step towards building some trust and goodwill from the people they've burned in the past, my suggestions would be to release the Windows XP source under a BSD license, and open source the current version of DirectX..
Microsoft, I wish you luck in this endeavour. Let's talk in 2054.
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Every time Microsoft has extended an olive branch, it has been solely to use it as leverage to pull its victims onto the sword.
Are you suggesting that after Microsoft extends an olive branch, and embraces a third-party technology, it then tries to extinguish it?
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Microsoft can not be trusted. Ever.
Who is Microsoft? Best anyone can tell the entire senior management is now made up from people who were not a part of Microsoft in the past, mostly poached from other companies without these bullshit practices.
Corporate culture and strategy comes from the top. "Microsoft" wasn't evil. "Bill Gates, and Steve Balmer" were the evil ones, and neither had the opportunity to groom current management.
Always looking to the past to determine the future implies that nothing in the world can ever change, which is just
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I take it you don't own a cell phone?
Informed hatred (Score:5, Informative)
It's not blind hatred.
It's informed hatred.
I've spent much of my career using Microsoft products (because my employers use them), and I know exactly why I hate them.
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It's time to put aside your blind hatred.
I don't hate them at all, they make a good keyboard, but this is pretty funny stuff. Like, what is their browser better at?
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That's true. Linux is a world of choice and after years of attempts by Microsoft to redefine standards to their liking, extort money from people who have no need to pay it, etc. I choose to keep my blind hatred. It's part of what defines me.
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I choose to keep my blind hatred
No, that should be blind dislike. Blind HATRED needs it's target to be examined closely, and frequently to see if it's spreading / getting any worse / or far-be-it actually attempting to get any better.
If you don't see what you're hating, it might morph and suddenly surprise you.
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Ah ... I was really thinking about Dash' line in Incredibles II.
But, yeah, Kirk hanging onto his pain works, too.
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you could use this to test with and not have to have a MS-Windows machine; you could test from a Linux desktop.
Assuming the Edge browser is 100% functionally the same as Edge on a Windows machine.
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Another browser for Linux is another choice for Linux users and Linux is all about choice. No one is being forced to use it if they don't want to, but any Linux user who has a problem with more choices is a hypocrite. It's time to put aside your blind hatred.
Linux users do have a choice and if people are interested, the following discusses 33 web browsers [slant.co] so we could add one more to the mix. Still to be fair if you have been a Microsoft OS user it would make it so much easier to transition to a Linux distro if you could have applications that you are familiar with such as MS Office, Edge Browser and third party products such as Photoshop, just to name a few.
Of course, a person who is a dedicated Microsoft ecosystem user would have a difficult, if not imposs
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Edge is a Chrome-based browser, but one which does not report back to Google. On the face of it a reason to install Edge.
Opera is a Chrome-based browser, one which does not report back to Google or Microsoft. I believe there are others.
Me? I installed Chrome recently to see if videos on mlb.com [mlb.com] were generally broken or if they were just broken on the browsers I use. It turned out that the POS site broke videos between the ALCS and the World Series, either deliberately or through incompetence. Having a
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>"Another browser for Linux is another choice for Linux users and Linux is all about choice."
Edge is Chrom*. Chrom* is Google. So you have Google controlling the web and MS reinforcing that domination. That doesn't seem like a productive choice at all. All multiplatform browsers now are Google, with the exception of Firefox. Choosing Google is not in our best interest. They are starting to make their own "standards" and sites are starting to code to Chom*-only. It is IE all over again.
So yes, we h
Well, vscode ate my brain. Why not a browser too? (Score:2)
I am still shocked how quickly vscode at my brain on every platform I use, including seamless remote sessions. I started programming on punched cards in the early 1970's and since then I've used pretty much every editor and IDE, where I count emacs as the first true IDE (sorry, VIM). And I spent well over a decade being conflicted about Eclipse.
I'm willing to give MS another shot at making another truly usable tool. My hopes are not high, but they earned great cred with me for vscode. Secretly, I'd like
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I'm willing to give MS another shot at making another truly usable tool.
If you're willing to give MS a chance to fuck up your Linux system, you're a truly usable tool. People don't even use this browser on Windows.
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I don't use Windows Edge! I'm hoping the Linux Edge will be cleaner, and am willing to take a look to see.
Similarly, I don't use MS Visual Studio for anything anywhere on any platform. But I do like vscode.
Anyway, I'd first run Linux Edge under WSL, and not on a "real" system until after it proves itself.
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I don't use Windows Edge! I'm hoping the Linux Edge will be cleaner, and am willing to take a look to see.
It won't, but have fun.
Anyway, I'd first run Linux Edge under WSL, and not on a "real" system until after it proves itself.
That's not a real test. At least run it in a VM.
vim wants to be a text editor, not a Lennart (Score:2, Informative)
> where I count emacs as the first true IDE (sorry, VIM)
It's okay, vim wants to be a text editor - not another Lennart Poettering OS.
vi is the visual mode for ex. Ex is the extended version of ed. Ed, for those unfamiliar, is sed minus the stream - it's designed for sed-like operations on fixed files. So one can accurately say "vi is extended to be a visual interface for sed-like text editing". It's not SUPPOSED to be an IDE. If you choose to, you can configure it to use other programs such as compi
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Developers have always hammered tools into the forms needed to maximize productivity and quality. For me, carefully integrated tools let me kick ass on folks trying to keep a manual string of unrelated tools working together. It's just not where or how I want to spend my time, nor is it what I'm being paid to accomplish. I also like being able to use whatever tool is best for the task at hand, and not be bound to any particular environment.
Feel free to adhere to your flimsy philosophy: I'll just go do mor
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You've been around a while. What do you think about the maturity of this comment?
"Feel free to adhere to your flimsy philosophy: I'll just go do more, do it better, and get paid more for it."
I'm actually a little surprised that you've not only been around the industry for as long as you have, but also been on Slashdot as long as you have, yet tried to come at me "I make more money than you". That would be a pretty silly thing to say to anyone, of course, but I can only guess you didn't notice who you wer
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And you clearly have no clue who you were replying to. And I choose to keep it that way. I tend to restart my online identities every so often, giving me maximum freedom to change and grow. I don't want people to care who I've been, but who I am. I can throw down a nice deck of history cards, but I'm not doing that stuff anymore, and it doesn't really matter to me today.
Philosophies tend to be inherently flimsy unless they are repeatedly tested. Which means stepping outside of them now and again. And
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> I did notice that you rant against Poettering using "we". Who gave their independent voices to you? Or was that the "Royal We"
Those of us who choose vim don't want to be using something like Visual Studio - if we wanted to do that, we WOULD! Just as you would use ed if you wanted to be using ed.
It's actually pretty much a tautology - those who choose X over Y, are people who prefer X to Y. That is why I can comment on what people who choose vi want - because they've demonstrated it. Much as Porche bu
Hilarious waste of effort (Score:3)
I almost never use Edge, and I'm on Windows almost 100% of the time. It's either Chrome (because I'm at work and they won't install anything else) or Waterfox or Firefox. (I use Waterfox because when FF was slow, I wanted something faster, so went with the 64-bit native, and now stay there because of the legacy addons support).
I fail to see what Microsoft plan to achieve here. They have a browser that is, at best, not better than anything else available, and arguably worse (from someone who loves configurability; Edge lost me at the start by launching with no addon support – the web without at least Adblock is an awful place).
It reminds me of Safari on Windows. Yes, because I want to install an inferior product.
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Yes, something doesn't smell right here.
LoB
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Re:Hilarious waste of effort (Score:4, Interesting)
Edge on Linux wasn't a deliberate plan. Once MS discovered the Chrome build process is cross-platform they figured, "What the hell, let's put out Edge for Linux." Someone on the team probably thought it would be funny. Eventually they'll push out Edge for Android for the same nominal effort.
If anything, this is another feeble, transparent ruse designed to make MS seem FOSS-friendly.
Everyone relax, get back to your stations. (Score:3, Funny)
Hell doesn't freeze over until they release MS Office for Linux.
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Hell doesn't freeze over until they release MS Office for Linux.
Hell freezes over every winter. I visit 2 or 3 times a year. Nice place to visit. They even have an ice cream parlor.
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Hell doesn't freeze over until they release MS Office for Linux.
Make that Visio for Linux, or even Visio for Mac for that matter....
Funny! (Score:3)
Step away ... (Score:2)
Edge is not comming to Linux (Score:2)
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Ad blockers? (Score:2)
Sure there's Brave, Chromium, etc. but once Chrome switches to Manifest V3 and ad-blockers as an oh-so-unfortunate side effect get crippled in Chrome, will development fragment?
They used to be the Death Star (Score:2)
Years ago, I caught a ton of flack from my peers for applying for a job at Microsoft. I was accused of joining the "Death Star". More recently, but still pre-Nadella, I worked with a number of Microsoft teams and found them sadly, highly dysfunctional and full of infighting. I was told it was partly due to the stack-ranking system that would actually make people glad to have a dumb ass join the team. Since Nadella really took over, I've seen significant strides in the right direction in terms of Linux and A
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If you have to compare the work environment to Amazon to make it look good, it's a shitfest. Period.
Well, it can't hurt, I guess... (Score:2)
Perhaps the best thing that will come out of this is Microsoft eating their own dogfood when it comes to building and deploying a substantial app for Linux. For all the anti-MS sentiment here, they usually create pretty good development tools (not always, but usually). But historically, for obvious reasons, those have mostly been Windows-only tools.
Whatever pain points this development team runs into will encourage improvements of their own improved tooling and systems or even to help improve open source s
Re:Well, it can't hurt, I guess... (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Release a poorly-optimized Edge for Linux
2) Send out press releases comparing benchmarks of how fast Windows runs videos/websites in Edge vs. how fast Linux does it in Edge
3) Profit
Alternatively, a longer-term plan:
1) Release a browser identical to Chrome for all platforms
2) Wait for Google to mess up Chrome in a big way
3) Fork Chromium
4) As the 2nd biggest Chromium browser just by virtue of being pre-installed on Windows, Edge is now the obvious choice for Chrome refugees and you've gained a web browser near-monopoly
5) Make some popular websites things stop working in the Mac and Linux versions (like IE6-only sites or Netflix's Silverlight days)
6) Profit from the new competitive advantage you've given Windows
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Ah, the cynicism runs deep here. I'd agree with you, say, fifteen years ago. But these days, Microsoft doesn't really care that much about tooting Windows' horn, or locking out other platforms. The desktop wars are long over, and MS won. Even with the royal cock-up that was Windows 8, they didn't lose any significant marketshare. People just stayed on Windows 7 for a while longer. But the world moved on to other platforms, and as it turns out, Microsoft also lost the war on those platforms. So it's n
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Imagine one of Microsoft's bigger customers encounters a major problem accessing some Microsoft service in the browser. If they use the Microsoft-supported browser, Microsoft can escalate the issue, get it fixed quickly, and commit the changes, all without the process ever leaving Microsoft. Then they feed the changes back upstream so that the bug gets f
Because github will only work with Edge browser (Score:2)
Is there a sell-out, I mean a partnership getting announced soon which would warrant this?
LoB
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The real question: "Is Linux coming to Microsoft?" (Score:2)
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I buy that. They said 10 would be the "last version of Windows", not the final Microsoft OS. They're moving away from Windows as a core product, it makes sense that they would want to leverage other people's work to keep their brand going.
Are we still there? (Score:5, Interesting)
Fast forward a few years. Opera was running on hundreds of millions of Linux devices which would have ended up running something else if it the companies supporting Linux for their projects did not have access to a company to support custom web browser development for their projects on Linux.
It could have been another company and another browser, but IBM, Ericsson, Nokia, Nintendo, Sony, and many other companies invested VERY heavily in companies like Redhat, Suse, Monte Vista, and more because they could hire a web browser company to support development of a web browser on their platforms.
Microsoft has done a massive amount of great things for Linux over the past few years. If you visit places like the Microsoft Build Conference, the magnitude of projects Microsoft supports on Linux is mind blowing.
Microsoft has developed VS Code as a first class citizen on Linux for some time. It is a totally open source editor that has amazing tool support for everything from remote Linux kernel driver debugging to LaTeX editing with preview. Among other things, it is very good for web development including amazing tools for things like Angular.
Edge which is basically a skin for Chromium (which MS contributes heavily to), has excellent integration for design and debugging in VS Code on Windows.
This move by Microsoft cannot possibly for anything other than increase interest in Linux.
I think ElementaryOS or Deepin combined with VS Code would actually make Linux a real desktop contender in time.
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>"Fast forward a few years."
Yep, please do. And discover that now Opera is basically a skin for Chrom* and Google control.
>"Edge which is basically a skin for Chromium"
Yes. And so are all the other multiplatform browsers that are not Firefox. So what did we learn?
"This move by Microsoft cannot possibly for anything other than increase interest in Linux."
You are very trusting. I see it as a move for MS to drop the expense of fighting to make a useful browser and handling control over to Google, who
It uses WebKit Chromium. Nothing of value is here (Score:3)
It uses the WebKit Chromium engine
If it were to use the Microsoft EdgeHTML engine, this would be notable. Since it's just using WebKit Chromium, why bother?
Lock-in (Score:2)
Embrace.
Extend. ...
Hey, our new Azure based widget farm only works with Edge!! Thank God it's on Linux, amirite? /s
Why? (Score:3)
There are literally dozens of chromium-based browsers available for any OS.
Why would one additional browser that I don't use bother me?
Does it offer anything the other major browsers don't already have?
If I wanted Chrome... (Score:2)
...I'd download Chrome. Or Opera. Or... well I'm sure there are quite a few other Chrome based "alternatives".
Why in the world would I choose the variant from the company that forever could easily have made their browser only provide a handfull of urls to go to: It was once Netscape, these days more like Chrome download page or Firefox.
Allow me to express a heartfelt "meh". (Score:2)
Or more a "Huh? I thought Chrome already exists for Linux?"
My reaction (Score:2)
Kernel space (Score:2)
Now that would be something, wouldn't it ?
How is this choice? (Score:2)
Well ms.... (Score:3)
... I don;t use Edge on my Windows systems at home or at work, I sure as hell wouldn't use it on linux either....
Is there an iPhone version of Edge I can ignore too?
Why not? (Score:2)
Netflix without Firefox? (Score:2)
Sold! I'd rather use WebKit/Blink over Gecko. The only thing I ever launch Firefox for is Netflix, and it sounds like this works with Netflix so I'm sold.
Other News (Score:2)
Didn't we have the headline not too long ago saying Edge for Windows was going to be Chrome's engine with a coat of paint? There's already Chrome for Linux, so this seems too easy a program to avoid publishing...
I know the reaction (Score:2)
It's the same one that we had when it came to WIndows.
Edge Who?
From everything I've seen (Score:2)
Or did we forget that Google took the evil crown from MS a while back.
Not exactly enthralled. (Score:2)
You know, I'm glad that the ongoing coup and correction at Microsoft is going swimmingly, but some things never seem to change about this company. For example, the whole idea that anyone wants to use their re-purposed version of Chrome to begin with. I mean, don't get me wrong. Edge is a very capable browser. When I install a windows system, it's the only thing I trust to download Chrome and Firefox. Then, unless it's by accident, I never really think about it again. And the only reason that makes any sense
Re:We are in the darkest timeline... (Score:4, Interesting)
Gamers might be one reason, flipping the bird at Google might be another. Edge doesn't have the plug-in/add-on/extension portfolio that Firefox does (despite Mozilla's retirement plan for side-loads).
If, however, you wanted to make sure that your AZURE platform did Linux-y things, you'd include a browser. A nice, home-boy browser. A browser you could lock and debug.
It's costing Microsoft a LOT OF MONEY to do this. Follow the money, as Microsoft breathes it.
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Gamers might be one reason, flipping the bird at Google might be another. Edge doesn't have the plug-in/add-on/extension portfolio that Firefox does (despite Mozilla's retirement plan for side-loads).
If, however, you wanted to make sure that your AZURE platform did Linux-y things, you'd include a browser. A nice, home-boy browser. A browser you could lock and debug.
It's costing Microsoft a LOT OF MONEY to do this. Follow the money, as Microsoft breathes it.
Microsoft is playing the long war and that's why Valve developed proton. Intel and software companies are now going to further turn software into something we don't control since they know most of the public is stupid.
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>flipping the bird at Google might be another.
How exactly does using a rebranded version of Chrome amount to flipping the bird to Google?
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Microsoft now considers Linux part of their turf war. Chrome's been there for a while.... and there has been zero Microsoft anything there. Microsoft is like a marketplace cowbird.
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Pull your head out of your 90s. Microsoft is a strong supporter of open source now, 2 CEOs later, and Google is the Big Corporate Evil.
First with the mmo scam in the late 90's where rpg's were rebranded mmo's to get the dumb gaming public and stupid half of the nerd kingdom to buy games they didn't own in the war on software ownership.
Who cares? You can still buy games you own, it you want to. Most people don't find that important, as they have no interest in playing a game unless all their friends are playing the same game. What happens to the game 3 years later is of no more concern than what happens to the last-years-fashion clothes they donate.
What does piss people off is monetization schemes like
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No you can't because Edge on Linux and Edge on Windows are pretty much guaranteed to behave differently. The only way to test Edge on Windows is with Edge on Windows. Even if they behave the same today you will never know when they suddenly start their bullshit of intentionally degrading and breaking performance and features on Linux to make Windows look better, as they always have and always will.
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IE5 for Mac had no lineage connecting it to IE for Windows. It had a unique UI and a bespoke rendering engine that was far superior to Windows IE.
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Office is written almost entirely in .net these days. There would probably be some work to get it ported over, but it's probably not a deal breaker. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already done it in their downtime. What strategic objective does a Microsoft Linux accomplish though?