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Fedora 31 Released (betanews.com) 68

Fedora 31 has just rolled out the door. From a report: Is it an exciting release? No, not really. Sure, enthusiasts will find themselves thrilled withe inclusion of the GNOME 3.34 desktop environment (with Qt Wayland by default), Linux 5.3 kernel, and Mesa 9.2, but otherwise, it is fairly boring. You know what? That's not a bad thing. In 2019, Fedora is simply a mature and stable operating system that only needs to follow an evolutionary path at this time -- not revolutionary. It stands alone as the world's best desktop Linux distribution. "Fedora 31 Workstation provides new tools and features for general users as well as developers with the inclusion of GNOME 3.34. GNOME 3.34 brings significant performance enhancements which will be especially noticeable on lower-powered hardware. Fedora 31 Workstation also expands the default uses of Wayland, including allowing Firefox to run natively on Wayland under GNOME instead of the XWayland backend as with prior releases," says The Fedora Project.
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Fedora 31 Released

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  • "It stands alone as the world's best desktop Linux distribution." Citation of polling to show that?
    • Re:Huh? (Score:4, Funny)

      by LostMyAccount ( 5587552 ) on Thursday October 31, 2019 @11:26AM (#59366490)

      It's been awarded the top award for this year's "Year of the Linux Desktop" contest.

      • Is "year of the Linux desktop" one of those sayings like "we'll have practical fusion in 20 years"? :-)

      • It's been awarded the top award for this year's "Year of the Linux Desktop" contest.

        Oh my god. Can we please have a "Year of the Linux Desktop" contest? That would be amazing.

    • Fedora is the open source release that if you pay for support is called Red Hat. That means this is ready for some businesses to experiment with.

      • No. CentOS is the open source release that if you pay for support is called Red Hat. Fedora is just the test bed for stuff that if it isn't broken enough or they think it can eventually be fixed enough to be stable may make it into RHEL someday.

    • Anything related to Red Hat regarding desktop makes me somewhat sad, every since I found out that Red Hat management never used Red Hat or fedora on their desktops...

      As I've preferred the Unix and Linux desktops I've used over windows since day one, I really don't get that.

  • srsly? (Score:4, Funny)

    by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:10PM (#59366720) Homepage Journal

    Is it an exciting release? No, not really. Sure, enthusiasts will find themselves thrilled withe inclusion of the GNOME 3.34 desktop environment

    lololol

    It stands alone as the world's best desktop Linux distribution.

    LOLOLOL

    Who believes this shit?

  • by roc97007 ( 608802 ) on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:52PM (#59366902) Journal

    At this time, the well known PC operating systems are all mature. To expect revolutionary changes in every release is not at all desirable. In the early days, when you're on the steep end of the curve, sure, but at some point maturity should be an objective.

    Trying to have each release be something revolutionary is the kind of thinking that gave us Vista. And Windows 8.

    It bears repeating, the OS is not the application. It runs applications.

    • It bears repeating, the OS is not the application. It runs applications.

      This sounds great but is it reality?

      With Linux it seems the only two real world options you have is to compile it yourself (For mortals this is essentially asking the user to go fuck themselves) from source or cross your fingers and hope everything you want is packaged with your favorite distro and not so horribly broken and outdated that it is useless to you.

      • It bears repeating, the OS is not the application. It runs applications.

        This sounds great but is it reality?

        With Linux it seems the only two real world options you have is to compile it yourself (For mortals this is essentially asking the user to go fuck themselves) from source or cross your fingers and hope everything you want is packaged with your favorite distro and not so horribly broken and outdated that it is useless to you.

        I disagree. Specialized applications (see below) are still an issue, but these days when most of what most people do is in a browser, and with the huge selection of precompiled packages available for most popular distros, it's not really a problem anymore.

        Having to compile code for everything you use is so 1990s. Nowdays, you find the package name, do a "yum install" or "apt-get install" and start using it.

        In the rare instance when you have to actually compile something (I get paid to administer Red Hat,

  • GNOME is the most unusable worthless interface imaginable. Even worse than Microsoft's metro BS which is quite an achievement.

    • So it is fortunate that you can download several spins [bytemark.co.uk], I shall be trying the Mate desktop as I agree that GNOME3 is frustrating, vital feature lacking and hard to use.

  • by Artem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:29PM (#59367628) Homepage

    Be aware that currently Fedora 31 does not support bitmap fonts (e.g. Terminus) in most graphical apps due to a removal of this feature in Pango 1.44.

    A discussion of this issue is ongoing [redhat.com] with no definitive resolution yet proposed.

    The easiest workaround if you've already updated, is to downgrade Pango to its version from Fedora 30 and add to to the list of exclusions in dnf.conf:

    wget your_favourite_mirror/pango-1.43.0-4.fc30.x86_64.rpm
    dnf downgrade pango-1.43.0-4.fc30.x86_64.rpm
    echo exclude=pango >> /etc/dnf/dnf.conf

    It's a major cock-up and I wonder why Fedora 31 was greenlit in the presence of this bug.

    A pango developer offered users to buy [phoronix.com] hi-dpi monitors not to be affected by this issue. I've got no words.

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