New FreeBSD 11.0 Release Candidate Tested By Phoronix

"The first release candidate for the upcoming FreeBSD 11.0 is ready for testing," reports Distrowatch, noting various changes. ("A NULL pointer dereference in IPSEC has been fixed; support for SSH protocol 1 has been removed; OpenSSH DSA keys have been disabled by default...") Now an anonymous Slashdot reader writes: Sunday Phoronix performed some early benchmark testing, comparing FreeBSD 10.3 to FreeBSD 11.0 as well as DragonFlyBSD, Ubuntu, Intel Clear Linux and CentOS Linux 7. They reported mixed results -- some wins and some losses for FreeBSD -- using a clean install with the default package/settings on the x86_64/amd64 version for each operating system.

FreeBSD 11.0 showed the fastest compile times, and "With the SQLite benchmark, the BSDs came out ahead of Linux [and] trailed slightly behind DragonFlyBSD 4.6 with HAMMER. The 11.0-BETA4 performance does appear to regress slightly for SQLite compared to FreeBSD 10.3... With the BLAKE2 crypto test, all four Linux distributions were faster than DragonFlyBSD and FreeBSD... with the Apache web server benchmark, FreeBSD was able to outperform the Linux distributions..."

Re:So what I dont give a fuck

[BitZtream]

Its not even the BSD used by macs

Uhm ... The 'bad' OS X user land is from FreeBSD, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

so who uses it? Almost no-one.

Lets see:
Routers/Switches from Juniper Networks ... its the base for their OS
NetApp ... its the base OS for their filers
F5 ... its the OS and networking stack for the Big IP load balancers
Apple ... as you got so wrong, it is the source for parts of the OS X Userland
Linux ... countless items of source used in various Linux improvements (Its goes both ways were possible, not hating on Linux or bragging about FBSD here)
Sony ... Guess what powers the Playstation ... thats right, FreeBSD, and its very obvious on any development kit for it.

Those are just the ones that I can think of in the span of a minute or so.

But hey, you go ahead and be an ignorant prick, at least you got the first post!

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[unixisc]

They probably think BSD is a version of Linux

Re:So what I dont give a fuck

[darthsilun]

Its not even the BSD used by macs

Uhm ... The 'bad' OS X user land is from FreeBSD, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

IIRC, a few years ago someone analyzed the rcsid strings in the OS X user land and found that at that point in time it was a mix of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD.

so who uses it? Almost no-one.

Lets see: Routers/Switches from Juniper Networks ... its the base for their OS NetApp ... its the base OS for their filers F5 ... its the OS and networking stack for the Big IP load balancers Apple ... as you got so wrong, it is the source for parts of the OS X Userland Linux ... countless items of source used in various Linux improvements (Its goes both ways were possible, not hating on Linux or bragging about FBSD here) Sony ... Guess what powers the Playstation ... thats right, FreeBSD, and its very obvious on any development kit for it.

Those are just the ones that I can think of in the span of a minute or so.

You forgot probably the single biggest: Google Android. The Android kernel is Linux, but the user land is BSD. Don't know whose. I'll leave that as an exercise.

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[Anonymous Coward]

It's bitztream, the autism-hating Slashdot moron!

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[armanox]

Don't forget FreeNAS and TrueNAS!

Re:So what I dont give a fuck

[TheRaven64]

You missed Netflix. Around 30% of US Internet traffic originates from Netflix OpenConnect appliances, which use FreeBSD.

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[Morris von Habsburg]

He missed another, Whatsapp uses FreeBSD. Jan Koum even donated USD 1 million to the FreeBSD Foundation to thank them for all their work. https://freebsdfoundation.blog... [blogspot.co.uk]

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[unixisc]

Its not even the BSD used by macs

Uhm ... The 'bad' OS X user land is from FreeBSD, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

so who uses it? Almost no-one.

Lets see: Routers/Switches from Juniper Networks ... its the base for their OS NetApp ... its the base OS for their filers F5 ... its the OS and networking stack for the Big IP load balancers Apple ... as you got so wrong, it is the source for parts of the OS X Userland Linux ... countless items of source used in various Linux improvements (Its goes both ways were possible, not hating on Linux or bragging about FBSD here) Sony ... Guess what powers the Playstation ... thats right, FreeBSD, and its very obvious on any development kit for it.

Those are just the ones that I can think of in the span of a minute or so.

But hey, you go ahead and be an ignorant prick, at least you got the first post!

Hey, even Microsoft now has a FreeBSD version - it's that popular!!!

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[unixisc]

There's also pFsense and m0n0wall as BSD based firewalls

FreeBSD network stack superior to Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

Facebook hired developers to improve the Linux network stack, so it could compete with FreeBSD.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2359272/facebook-wants-linux-network-stack-to-rival-or-exceed-freebsd

Some of us do give an F.

[Ungrounded Lightning]

I don't give a f*** about FreeBSD.

Some of us do give an f*** about the BSDs.

(Especially those of us who are considering moving mission-critical systems from Linux to a BSD because, for instance, systemd makes security auditing massively more difficult and expensive for a small startup.)

We are nerds, and this matters to us.

So if you personally are not interested, please just shut up and move on to something that DOES interest you, rather than polluting OUR discussions with "I'm not interested in this!" whining.

Thank you.

Re:Some of us do give an F.

[geek]

systemd makes security auditing massively more difficult and expensive for a small startup.)/p>

Citation needed. I work in InfoSec and have never heard anyone say this, ever.

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

I say it all the time. Systemd logs information constantly. It makes it impossible to throw up your hands and say, "not my fault," since everything is logged in excruciating detail. That makes "security auditing massively more difficult and expensive."

Re:

[walterbyrd]

You seem angry. Did somebody say something to upset you?

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

Nurse! He's escaped again!

Re:Some of us do give an F.

[jandersen]

I don't give a f*** about FreeBSD.

Some of us do give an f*** about the BSDs.

I second that. Not a BSD user myself, but I'm glad to see they are still going strong - diversity is great!

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

... and no one gives a f**k about what you say.

Don't know much about BSD

[fustakrakich]

Don't know much security
Don't know much about a fortran book
Don't know much about the C I took

But I do know I'll embed with you
And I know if you embed me too
What a wonderful world this would be

Phoronix is a boo-boo site.

[Anonymous Coward]

I just read it for the comparisons. FreeBSD is awesome. Linux is great. Their Microsoft stories are just fibs.

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[aliquis]

Kinda already is on the desktop and consoles through OS X and Playstation.
Just like Linux already is mainstream like crazy through Android.

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[unixisc]

Their desktop/laptop version is called PC-BSD. Speaking of which, I've been stuck w/ 10.2 - haven't been able to upgrade to 10.3, since their upgrade server seems down. Lost Lumina in the process. Hope to get that back some time soon

Re:

[aliquis]

I thought PC-BSD was a different project which used FreeBSD code. Then again OS X is of course even more different.

The time I used FreeBSD it was (2.x-4.x, possibly 5.x at some time.)

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[aliquis]

Seeing at the dates more like 3.x-4.x. It was a short period.

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[dlang_rocks]

I thought PC-BSD was a different project which used FreeBSD code.

In Linux parlance, PC-BSD is akin to a spin of FreeBSD. A lot of the ports in the ports tree have options that you'd want enabled on a desktop system but not a server (e.g. CUPS or X support). And since FreeBSD is used on a lot of servers, the default ports configurations (and the configurations that the official, FreeBSD package repos use) have those options disabled. So, if you want to use vanilla FreeBSD as a desktop, you have to do a lot of manual configuration and building of the various ports. PC-BSD

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[unixisc]

Reason being the GPL 2 vs 3 issue. While Linux will remain GPL2, GCC went to GPL3. So Android could either have held back w/ an old version of GCC, or gone the LLVM/Clang route.

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[unixisc]

He's never been a 'microkernel' believer

The BIG thing

[Anonymous Coward]

They are all probably missing the BIGGEST new feature in FreeBSD 11: the UEFI-GOP bhyve implementation. Basically a vm hypervisor with an embedded VNC server that makes FreeBSD a powerful VM host OS.

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