Infographic: Ubuntu Linux Is Everywhere 185
prisoninmate writes: To celebrate the launch of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, due for release later this month, on April 21, Canonical put together an interesting infographic, showing the world how popular Ubuntu is. From the infographic, it looks like there are over 60 million Ubuntu images launched by Docker users, 14 million Vagrant images of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS from HashiCorp, 20 million launches of Ubuntu instances during 2015 in public and private clouds, as well as bare metal, and 2 million new Ubuntu Cloud instances launched in November 2015. Ubuntu is used on the International Space Station, on the servers of popular online services like Netflix, Snapchat, Pinterest, Reddit, Dropbox, PayPal, Wikipedia, and Instagram, in Google, Tesla, George Hotz, and Uber cars. It is also employed at Bloomberg, Weta Digital and Walmart, at the Brigham Young University to control the Mars Rover, and it is even behind the largest supercomputer in the world.
Desktop Reporting In! (Score:2)
One more desktop install reporting in! They laugh...then you win.
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Me too. But I laugh at them.
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Why not replace it with one of your own choice. Oh wait Mr. anonymous Troll, coming from Windows land you aren't aware that you can do this. With Windows Bill and Fester makes that decision for you.
Bam! This. While there are an almost ridiculous number of distros, that means that all we have to do to find an interface we like is to search out until we find one that trips our trigger. While I've been big on installing Mint Cinnamon for people the last couple years, I gave Ubuntu Mate a try a few weeks ago. A "normal" interface, and works and looks just like I want.
Or of course, roll our own.
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Clearly Red Hat is for inbred racists then.
And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:5, Insightful)
I personally have had very positive experiences with Ubuntu, and have helped quite a few 'non-nerds' start using it on their computers, when Windows and Mac weren't good fits. I own a computer shop, and probably install Ubuntu about once a month -- it's not leading the pack by any means, but it's a very viable option. The simplicity of the distro, along with the fantastic userbase to provide support, have really helped make it the Linux of choice for the average consumer, IMHO.
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Agreed. But that said slashdot is generally a negative place. Ubuntu lost me to mint when they went to unity but it had served me well for a number of years prior. It had issues that I couldn't be bothered working around at the time. I haven't bothered looking at it since then because Mint hasn't done anything that makes me want to change it. If it does I would revisit ubuntu.
Re:And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:5, Interesting)
When I first installed LMDE it was a rolling edition, based on Debian Testing. Now it's based on Stable, and frankly has become old. (Currently the screensaver is showing a message on startup telling me it - the screensaver - is old and I ought to upgrade to a newer version!). To be fair, I did initially install the XFCE edition, which is no longer a Mint DE flavour.
I did think about replacing it with Mint Cinnamon 17.3, but again this is based on Ubuntu 14.04, and so based on something now relatively old. I think I want to get back to something relatively modern, easy to use, and mainstream.
Unity has apparently improved dramatically. I've tried it with a 15.10 live disk and I'm sure I can live with it. (And I will use the main version rather than one of the other official flavours).
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Potential consideration for you is Mint 18 will be based on 16.04 release date is may/june.
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Why confine yourself to Unity? You do know you can select a different desktop environment at login just by installing the appropriate package, right?, e.g kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop etc.
There's practically no difference between the various ?buntu flavours except which DE gets packaged on the CD you download.
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There is also nothing stopping you having multiple ?buntu-desktop's installed. You can select with DE when you login.
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The xscreensaver message is a perfect example of a diva developer being an arsehole
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi... [debian.org]
It is old, but timebombing your code is astonishingly bad form.
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Damning it with faint praise?
I'm waiting for a distro over which people say, "Try this, it'll change your life!"
Re:And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:4, Funny)
That's Arch. We had a guy try it six years ago and he still hasn't returned from the installation process.
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If you ever got Gentoo installed, you're doing good. ;-)
Actually... I don't want to brag or anything BUT... I've gotten Plan9 installed and running. However... That has a couple of caveats.
It took more tries than it should have.
The installation was a virtual machine image.
I'm not sure what I did but the installation only worked for a few boots.
Minix was much easier.
Re:And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:5, Informative)
Mint. Mint is brilliant. It will change your life because you will stop noticing that the OS is even there. Everything just works. Cinnamon fits me like a glove, does everything the way that I would want it to. And every time I update to a new release I get the feeling of "wow, nice touch. You have really polished that" not "Oh fuck me, what have you done?!?! WHY? WHERE IS THAT TOOL I USED DAILY?!?!?!?!"
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Mint. Mint is brilliant. It will change your life because you will stop noticing that the OS is even there. Everything just works. Cinnamon fits me like a glove, does everything the way that I would want it to. And every time I update to a new release I get the feeling of "wow, nice touch. You have really polished that" not "Oh fuck me, what have you done?!?! WHY? WHERE IS THAT TOOL I USED DAILY?!?!?!?!"
I use Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.3. I generally agree with your assessment. I would like to toss out some negatives:
I can not put the taskbar on the side. I have a widescreen monitor. I value my vertical space. To add insult to injury, moving the taskbar to the top shows occasional glitches too. That shows shoddy programming, or at a minimum, short-sighted programming.
I miss xsetroot. Why KDE and GNOME decided to make the background unwritable is beyond me. This has nothing to do with Mint itself but it is ment
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I seriously don't trust those Gnome devs though- they seem dead set on making some product for a computer noob in 2028, or something. I get it is the dominant desktop now with even Linus on it, but burned once twice shy. I'll stick with XFCE on Fedora, and once in a blue moon run a thing from a command line that would have been a widget in Gnome. It is fine.
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it looks weird
i want a crappy win95 clone and most likely will continue to want one in the future unless there is a really compelling reason to give it up, which i havent seen yet
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i want a crappy win95 clone and most likely will continue to want one in the future unless there is a really compelling reason to give it up, which i havent seen yet
My gold standard for UIs is Win2K, so I hear you. And honestly, the closest I've been able to come to that in Linux, is XFCE. When I finally gave up on Windows I switched to Gnome on Debian, then went to XFCE on Debian when Gnome 3 reared its ugly head. Then late in Jessie when shit started breaking, I switched to Xubuntu and haven't looked back.
I don't have a truly good file manager - the only one in Linux that gives me everything I want is Dolphin, and it comes with a HUGE amount of KDE cruft, so I go wi
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As I said I haven't tried the most recent ubuntu and if mint suddenly did something that I hated I would try it again. When Ubuntu released Unity they broke something in mdadm which meant I could no longer get machines to ldap authenticate the user against a remote server without having that user also exist on the local machine. So I didn't use unity long enough to get a feel for it other than to go "this is really different and I can't get the machines to unlock."
For me the OS should sit at such a level
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Ubuntu is fine, it's Unity people bitch about. Their hand was forced after GNOME 3 I guess, but the Mint approach to the problem seems to be the clear winner. Glad to see Ubuntu Mate go official, though I'll prob stick with Xubuntu.
You'll notice not many of the installs shown in that infographic would be using Unity.
Re: And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:1)
Unity, systemd, pulseaudio (which is getting a lot better but can still be a pain sometimes) and a bunch of other stuff...
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I used Ubuntu for a number of years thanks to the Warty Warthog cds they mailed out.
But a while ago I tried the net-install of debian and can't see any compelling reason to use downstream - never a big fan of Unity etc.
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This is what irks me about /. Even though Ubuntu is an overall fantastic flavor of Linux, if you read the comments here, you'd get the impression that it's more loathed than a Microsoft product.
The geek isn't comfortable with success when success is defined as adoption by those outside his own community.
Re:And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:5, Insightful)
I was actually a moderator for the Ubuntu forums for the first few years of Ubuntu (I had an @ubuntu.org e-mail address and everything). In those days, Ubuntu had a massive impact on the accessibility of Linux to the average computer user. I could genuinely recommend it to anyone I knew. But, when KDE/Gnome went off the fucking rails and Ubuntu went the direction of Unity, it was almost like a mini dark ages for the Linux desktop. Basically, all the traction, all the trust, all the familiarity was struck down from upon high by people wielding job descriptions like User Experience Engineer.
Yes, assholes wearing skinny jeans destroyed the Linux desktop. And Canonical didn't help the situation when it started shipping Amazon connected desktop searches. However, having said all that, I decided to try vanilla Ubuntu recently, and, frankly, it's not that bad. It's actually really nice. In fact, I had a moment of terror when I wondered if my drunken ramblings had directly influenced the interface because it mostly worked how I wanted it to work. A power user will need to tweak it a bit but, in general, Unity might fit a power users workflow better than it might seem at first glance.
Now, that's just desktop stuff. On a server/VM/container/whatever, Ubuntu is the go to flavor. Without hesitation. If you don't use it, people will give you the stink eye and ask you to justify why you didn't. It's easy to use, it works and it's so widely used that when you say "apt-get", no one will give you a funny look. In a sense, Ubuntu started out as Linux for Humans and ended up being Linux for the Cloud. I doubt that Canonical even expected that but, frankly, I'm very much OK with that situation and I wish them the best.
P.S. I still love you, Debian. You'll always have a place on my laptop.
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Exactly -- Ubuntu = broken Debian.
The difference between a Ubuntu user and a Debian user - Debian users tend to be interested in the ethic of freedom - Ubuntu users are interested in free beer.
As the M$ Canonical bit unfolds ( https://linux.slashdot.org/sto... [slashdot.org] ) I suspect more developers will move back to Debian. M$ is not ethical - neither is Canonical.
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I wouldn't say that Ubuntu is a broken flavor of Debian. I know that's a long standing joke but, I don't think it's true anymore. I run Debian with XFCE and I actually grab some data/packages from Ubuntu because they are leaps and bounds better than the Debian versions. In particular, if you run Debian and you aren't stealing the /etc/fonts directory from Ubuntu, you are doing yourself a massive disservice. Debian has the font rendering capabilities of Ubuntu, just not the configuration to take advantag
Ubuntu has advantages over Debian on the desktop (Score:2)
Every year or so, I get the urge to replace Xubuntu with Debian on my desktop and development systems. Sadly, it just doesn't make sense to do so. Ubuntu still has a few huge advantages over Debian. In particular:
Ubuntu's bug tracking system [launchpad.net] is far more convenient than Debian's, provides richer categorization and relation tools, and integrates with upstream trackers. I waste less time when I have to report problems, and since more people are sharing knowledge in launchpad, I also waste less time on diagnost
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I can 100% respect this post. It's dead on. Debian takes a bit of love to be usable. But, once you've got Debian into your personal Nirvana State, nothing else really compares.
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I think it's more of a love-hate relationship.
I used to love Ubuntu, and was very impressed in 2005 by the live CD. It was the first time ever I didn't have any driver problem with internet, graphic card or sound card on Linux. Everything worked out of the box. I spent 3 years actively translating packages, helping noobies on the forum and spreading the stoke.
I stopped using it after they tried to force Unity/Gnome 3 down our throat.
Linux Mint has replaced it since then, and has done a very good job. It's k
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But there are things that are annoying. For me, it's mostly where LTS releases tend to be released with irritating bugs that may never be fixed; instead they'll get fixed in the next version, and as an LTS user, you've either got to get a back port, or a PPA to solve it.
I've not done much testing with 16.04 yet, but this bug is *really* annoying: bug 1521302 [launchpad.net]
And I've a horrible feeling it won't
Re:And yet, the Slashdot opinion... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Right there with you: I started slinging code in the '80s, I've been making my living that way for over twenty years, and Ubuntu is my default because it works and I don't have to waste time futzing with it. Of course it's not perfect, but it's certainly no worse than the alternatives, and in many ways it is better. I love the fact that I don't have to think about it - give me a machine, new or old, doesn't matter, throw on whatever the most recent Ubuntu LTS happens to be, bam we're in business.
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I'm using Ubuntu on my laptops anymore for this reason. It's the one distro where I can be reasonably sure that sleep and WiFi will work on a laptop without me having to do a bunch of extra work.
I need to get stuff done on my computer, not troubleshoot it. It was a fun learning experience twenty years ago but today it is just a pain in my ass. If I barely have time for the things I want to do I definitely don't have time for things I don't need to do.
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They are just tools. I use what works.
The problem is Arch is the IKEA of Linux distributions. It works really well. Some good thought was put into it. It's great once it's all setup, ... but some signficant assembly required.
It's Linux in a flatpack. Don't expect to reboot the system and be up and running with a fully featured DE in 15minutes.
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It is normal insecurity. People want to rationalize and justify their decisions when they are in a minority. You will always going to get the Mint fan piping up in a pro-Ubuntu thread until the install base gets into the same league. You don't see the same thing from OSX fans now that you see >50% users at a non-Windows,non-Linux technical conference.
The year of the Linux virtual desktop... (Score:1)
In other news (Score:3, Funny)
huh? (Score:1)
Just seems to me they made a few marginal improvements to debian and colored it orange. I seriously don't get it.
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Originally I think it was just debian that you didn't need to spend time messing with manual non-free codec and driver installs to get it working on desktop. Not sure how much that is still the case.
"Coke sez Coke is deh best!" (Score:2)
Canonical put together [...] showing the world how popular Ubuntu is.
Well. Duh. Stopped right there.
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Linked infographic has JPEG artifacts (Score:3, Informative)
The article linked to is blog spam with an ugly JPEG version of the infographic. The original PNG infographic is here: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/07/ubuntu-is-everywhere/
Infographic (Score:1)
Infographic on /. , now I've seen them all. This place is devolving
EDA vendors jumping in too (Score:2)
It will probably be 2018 before Ubuntu LTS 16.4 begins to show in the EDA roadmap.
can't speak for others obviously but ... (Score:2)
Ubuntu is awsome (Score:3)
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Distrowatch interest does not equal installs. Gives you a rough idea, that's about it. Also, remember that there is Ubuntu MATE, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and a few more *buntus lurking around.
How do people manage it at scale? (Score:2)
Do you just run apt-get upgrade with cron?
On a thousand machines?
For RHEL et.al, there's the tools around The Foreman. For Ubuntu, there's landscape - but it costs so much that I could use RHEL right away - and RHEL is much better. And The Foreman is open-source, can be deployed on-premise.
I hate that there is no real official documentation beyond a few alibi-pages that assume you're running a desktop. My co-workers tell me that I can google any problem and find a solution by some guy, somewhere - but my ex
Desktop, Vagrant, Droplet, Raspberry Pi, etc. (Score:1)
These days, the only thing that makes me sad is that the Unity3D Linux builds aren't quite up to date with the Windows ones so if I open a project in Windows I can't edit it on my Ubuntu laptop.
Re: MS should buy them out not just partner with t (Score:1)
Nooooooooooo
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Is there really that much fragmentation. Or just a small group of whiners. While the rest who are using Ubentu for a desktop system really don't care.
Sure you can use Ubuntu as a mission critical server, but there are better distributions for that.
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> MS should buy them out not just partner with them
If MS started offering Ubuntu long ago and not just now, they'd be rich by now!
SQL Server on Linux, and now Bash on Windows... MS-Linux is coming.
Here's my conspiracy theory: they annoyed everyone with Metro, then Windows 10, just to pave the way for MS-Linux. Brilliant.
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SQL Server on Linux, and now Bash on Windows... MS-Linux is coming.
Here's my conspiracy theory: they annoyed everyone with Metro, then Windows 10, just to pave the way for MS-Linux. Brilliant.
I did a MLK parody of "I have a dream" a few months ago, when I dreamt that one day we'd all be united under Unix.
It would be awesome for great levels of awesomenitude.
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You're a fucking bitch for degrading Doctor King's work by relating it to your little pet OS.
Mighty sensitive little snowflake aren't we, precious?
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Humour motherfucker do you speak it!?!?
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They can't compete because Windows is PITA to move from x86 to other architectures and because Windows is expensive to run (it is inefficient - yes it is better than ever before but it is still far behind).
Windows runs out of the box with a fairly good driver coverage of all components and peripherals on pretty much any mainstream computer. Call it what you want but that's pretty impressive. Of course they blackmail OEMs and shove tons of useless drivers in there but still.
Give me a mystery server and no internet access, and I'd bet a dollar that besides OpenSuse there's only Windows that will install properly on that thing. Anything else will require a driver treasure hunt.
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Windows used to run on MIPS, PowerPC and many others, but Microsoft gave up on supporting those 15 years ago. Do you now why? Because nobody fucking cares. How the fuck can the fact that Windows no longer runs on MIPS prevent Microsoft from "competing" with Linux? You'll tell me that the 8 organizations who bought MIPS or SPARC servers this year decided to use Debian for their x86 mail servers specifically because they figure they'd maybe need to move things around? Or maybe they plan on using the machines
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Nobody argued with Linux. But please tell me the last time you've seen a MIPS or SPARC server in a modern data center with your own eyes, as opposed to, say, x86 ones.
Outside of academia or research (which is a tiny market in the ocean of servers) that just doesn't happen.
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Nobody argued with Linux. But please tell me the last time you've seen a MIPS or SPARC server in a modern data center with your own eyes, as opposed to, say, x86 ones.
Every time, they are called Cisco switches, running Linux on MIPS.
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Nobody argued with Linux. But please tell me the last time you've seen a MIPS or SPARC server in a modern data center with your own eyes, as opposed to, say, x86 ones.
Every time, they are called Cisco switches, running Linux on MIPS.
You shoud go fix Wikipedia and tell them that Cisco IOS is Linux. That may surprise a few people, like Cisco or Linux people.
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Nobody argued with Linux. But please tell me the last time you've seen a MIPS or SPARC server in a modern data center with your own eyes, as opposed to, say, x86 ones.
Every time, they are called Cisco switches, running Linux on MIPS.
You shoud go fix Wikipedia and tell them that Cisco IOS is Linux. That may surprise a few people, like Cisco or Linux people.
It may surprise a few Cisco or Linux people who have been living in a hole that the world including Cisco have moved on since the 90s.
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Windows used to run on MIPS, PowerPC and many others, but Microsoft gave up on supporting those 15 years ago.
Yes and that worked out really well for them when it came to dominating the ARM-based smartphone and tablet market.
What tablet market? You mean the nosediving iPad that loses steam year after year compared to the Surface Pro, which sees a 29% annual increase since Microsoft dropped ARM and switched to x64?
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You might be better off with a waffle iron.
Meaning like Red Hat? 1-888-733-4281 (Score:5, Informative)
For those unfamiliar, the previous poster may be referring to Red Hat. They provide ten-year support. Their tech support phone number is 1-888-733-4281 .
Ps they won't ask you to reboot twice and reinstal (Score:3)
Ps, like 3ware support, Red Hat provides actual techs. They won't read a script asking you to reboot three times, then tell you to re-install from scratch, losing all of your data.
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Agreed. And they do support everything that's in their repo with fast response time.
Thanks to RHEL I'm getting lazy lately, it's often easier to open a ticket than to STFW to figure things out.
Re: Meaning like Red Hat? 1-888-733-4281 (Score:1)
The differenc is that with Red Hat you actually need that support.
We have CentOS on two servers here, whereas the rest runs Ubuntu. The amount of times "What the fuck?" and "They can't be serious.." was said when mamaging those servers, is more than when bad code of an applicant was discussed. It feels like Ubuntu from 2004 - those two servers take more time to maintain than porting "RedHat-only" software to new kernels whenever needed.
I liked one guy's remark on a forum, where we discussed how to fix a pro
Re:Meaning like Red Hat? 1-888-733-4281 (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft support is much better!
They have an Indian guy in South Africa call you to tell you when something is wrong on your computer, then guide you through a fix using their downloadable tool, and if that fails, you can pay them to simply fix it for you!
Did wonders for my Macbook Pro!
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Ring me when they have 10 year support cycles and someone I can actually ring when something goes whacky.....
Hahahaha! Oh, wait, you were serious?
If you're thinking of those I'm thinking of, "extended support" isn't really support, and "someone I can actually ring" appears to be a euphemism for "find an MVP and roll the dice". By the way, good luck on that phone thing if you're outside the US.
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I'm not experiencing the problem that you describe. I'm using PostgreSQL on FreeBSD.
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Actually it does, even the package to 15.10 (Wiley) have a SysV script, an upstart script and a systemd unit file. And looking at the installed unit file it does not disable stderr so either GP is full of shit or it's mongodb itself that does not output to stderr.
This is the included unit file on Wiley:
[Unit]
/etc/mongodb.conf
Description=An object/document-oriented database
Documentation=man:mongod(1)
[Service]
User=mongodb
ExecStart=/usr/bin/mongod --config
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
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It's fixed. You can send systemd messages to the standard syslogs with a simple configuration change. As I pointed out here:
https://linux.slashdot.org/com... [slashdot.org]
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Vagrant is a good tool as well. There are a lot of Vagrant boxes, and it is nice to be able to try a new OS by making a directory, doing a vagrant init, then a vagrant up.
As for need cases, there is always Slackware and Gentoo. Still actively maintained and going strong. If one dislikes RHEL and downstreams (CentOS, Orable UBL, SuSE) or Debian/Ubuntu, it can't hurt to try those.
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The *untu's began as third world linux and Redhat/Fedora have sucked since Redhat 8.
I guess you mean the old Red Hat because RHEL is currently at 7.
For a desktop you should give Fedora another try. There's been huge improvements over the years. Every time I get a new laptop I try Ubuntu, I'm thrilled for 10 minutes then it goes down in flames when I try to install another desktop environment so I get annoyed and I end up going back to Fedora (with Cinnamon).
Also I'm really not into all that sudo bullshit that comes from Debian. That's my fucking machine if I want to be root and break every
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Listen dude, peddle your shallow Unix expertise somewhere else because it's clearly not backed by the most basic common sense.
There's no fucking reason to use a sudo-intensive Debian-based distro and rip out the sudo bullshit out of it. That'd be like installing yum on it and only looking for rpm. Or buying a diesel car and making it work with fuel. Unless you're a hobbyist (or masochist) there's just no point.
And if you think that experienced people don't RTFM then you're not one of them.
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Also I'm really not into all that sudo bullshit that comes from Debian.
You realize Debian doesn't even have sudo in a base install, right?
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And if I really want to live dangerously, I use ' sudo su -'. Saves me from having to remember another password (for root).
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"sudo bash", my friend. "sudo bash".
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Umm... They can see you when you download, they can see you when you hit the update servers, they can see you when you browse the web.
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not with Tails they can't.
oh and Tails now has:
apt-transport-tor
"APT transport for anonymous package downloads via Tor
I see you got electricity in your cabin in Idaho, now. Takes a serious amount of paranoia to want to do updates in secret.
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"I see you got electricity in your cabin in Idaho, now. Takes a serious amount of paranoia to want to do updates in secret."
you can have your paranoia. I choose wisdom.
So tell me, How is the guvmint going to persecute you for an OS update?
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That wouldn't surprise me but it does surprise me that you'd think I had the means or inclination to list all possible sources of for them to acquire that information.