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Ubuntu User Count Pegged At Over One Billion (phoronix.com) 165

An anonymous reader writes: In response to an article claiming Ubuntu didn't reach its goal of 200 million users this year — a goal set out by Mark Shuttleworth in 2011 to surpass 200 million users by 2015 — a Canonical engineer has come out to say the opposite. Dustin Kirkland, a member of Ubuntu Product and Strategy team, has come out to say there are more than one billion Ubuntu users. His billion tally though does include cloud/container instances as well as those shopping online at Wallmart, watching popular movies where the studios used Ubuntu servers, streamed from Netflix, rode with Uber, and other businesses that rely upon Ubuntu servers.
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Ubuntu User Count Pegged At Over One Billion

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  • by Wdomburg ( 141264 ) on Thursday December 24, 2015 @09:59AM (#51178179)

    When you miss a metric, redefine the metric.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      When you miss a metric, redefine the metric.

      Yep. Kirkland should work for Congress

    • Just create a lot of metrics and pick and choose which ones you like. If none of them work out, turn the data into some percentage over the other metrics.

    • Perhaps they've learned a little from how the music industry calculates its losses to unauthorised copying. But it seems they haven't learned enough. By the music industry's calculations it should be closer to $1 trillion is losses from unauthorised uses of Ubuntu. (They don't understand FOSS, BTW).

  • So does this mean that Microsoft should now count anyone who has looked through a window as a Windows user?
    • by geoskd ( 321194 )

      So does this mean that Microsoft should now count anyone who has looked through a window as a Windows user?

      With the failure to force Windows 10 on "customers", that tactic can't be long in coming...

      • And yet Windows 10 still has vastly more users than those of Ubuntu. And Microsoft doesn't have to count people connecting to a Windows server or people watching a movie that may have been edited on a Windows machine as users to reach their numbers.

        • by geoskd ( 321194 )

          And Microsoft doesn't have to count people connecting to a Windows server or people watching a movie that may have been edited on a Windows machine as users to reach their numbers.

          No? Microsoft has a History of misleading statistics [theguardian.com] of their own.

          If you want more examples, you're free to Google it yourself

          • And yet basing something on number of licenses sold is stil far better than counting a person watching The Hobbit as a user because the SFX was rendered on an Ubuntu computer.

            • by geoskd ( 321194 )

              And yet basing something on number of licenses sold is stil far better than counting a person watching The Hobbit as a user because the SFX was rendered on an Ubuntu computer.

              Not when it comes to servers or embedded systems. People have no idea what OS runs on the servers that provide them with everything they see every day from the OS running their router and NAS, The OS on their Roku, or DVD player. The OS running on their thermostat. At the end of the day, those are still users, and they are arguably far more important than desktop users. Just like mobile OS rendered the desktop OS' to a backseat role going forward, Embedded OS will render the mobile OS as largely irrelevant

  • Not less than that. Ubuntu is great. But didn't reach the 200M users target. Period.
    • by unrtst ( 777550 )

      ...Ubuntu is great. But didn't reach the 200M users target. Period.

      The stats in the article are absolute bullshit, but that doesn't mean the target wasn't met. I'm quite curious what the real numbers are, though I understand it's impossible to get a completely accurate number.
      * counts of distinct os instances pulling updates from any official mirror?
      * counts of known installs?
      * counts of distinct os instances that hit their advertising search thing?
      * counts of repo mirrors being pulled (to estimate remote mirrors serving one or more other instances)?
      * ditto for alternativ

      • I was given a windows 7 laptop because the hard drive was not working and it would not boot. So I purchased another hard drive but I than needed to install an OS. The problem was that the sticker for windows 7 was worn and the code was unreadable. I suspect they put the code there so it would get worn. I installed Ubuntu on it since the laptop was not even worth the price Microsoft would have charged for a clean installation of any of its operating systems. It has been working now for more than a couple

        • by short ( 66530 )
          s/Ubuntu/Linux/ in your post and then we can agree. Those two terms are not equal.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    So earth has like 4.7 billion people on it, are you trying to tell me that one in five of those are full-time ubuntu users? I don't believe you one iota.

    • No, he's trying to claim silly things like watching The Hobbit makes you an Ubuntu user:

      Did you enjoy watching The Hobbit? Hunger Games? Avengers? Avatar? All rendered on Ubuntu at WETA Digital. Among many others.

      • Since ubuntu was derived from Debian, looks like Debian has more users. Stupid argument is stupid - the only difference being that , unlike Kirkland, I know my argument is nonsense.
    • So earth has like 4.7 billion people on it

      Dear lord are you behind. There are over 7.3 billion people on earth.
      Hell, we hit 5 billion in 1987.

      • Then this guy isn't shooting high enough. There's got to be at least 6 billion Ubuntu users in that crowd if you twist the facts hard enough.

    • by geoskd ( 321194 )

      So earth has like 4.7 billion people on it, are you trying to tell me that one in five of those are full-time ubuntu users? I don't believe you one iota.

      What he was really saying is that of the roughly 20 Billion devices on earth capable of running an operating system, Ubuntu is on 5% of them. Comparatively speaking, thats pretty impressive. Microsoft only has about 1.25 Billion of those machines. Apple has a little over 1.5 Billion. Android passed the 1 Billion mark in 2014. By installed base, that puts Canonical in the big leagues. Moreover, Canonical has not even stopped accelerating their adoption rate in the embedded space. All three of the other big O

      • What he was really saying is that of the roughly 20 Billion devices on earth capable of running an operating system, Ubuntu is on 5% of them.

        Bullshit, the person wasn't talking about 1 billion device but users:

        How many "users" of Ubuntu are there ultimately? I bet there are over a billion people today, using Ubuntu -- both directly and indirectly. Without a doubt, there are over a billion people on the planet benefiting from the services, security, and availability of Ubuntu.

  • Umm (Score:5, Funny)

    by Doug Otto ( 2821601 ) on Thursday December 24, 2015 @11:23AM (#51178589)
    Ubuntu users pegged?

    I hope that's an optional thing.
  • by gaelfx ( 1111115 ) on Thursday December 24, 2015 @12:04PM (#51178779)

    While clearly this is a gross misuse of the word 'users,' arguing the semantics of it is kind of rhetorical (you may as well put on an orange toupee).

    We could pick him apart for using the word 'users' in an inappropriate fashion, but the heart of what he says *is* something significant: Ubuntu touches the lives of far more people than actually realize that it exists. Sure, watching the movie doesn't make me an Ubuntu user, but the fact still remains that Ubuntu has influenced my life in some fashion by being a part of that movie being made. It's a sign that Linux has gained some sort of foot-hold in the world and won't likely be dying anytime soon.

  • So if his goal was 200 million users at the end of the year and when he said it we were clearly much more than 200 users, what was his goal?

    To reduce the number of people using Ubuntu to less than 200 million?

    Maybe that would explain the UI changes...

  • In 2008/9/10 Untuntu was grat because they just fixed some thing which needed fixing.

    from 2010-2011 Ubuntu got a little torublesome since they continued to fixing thing which did not need fixing in their own way (graphics/deskton enviroment)

    after 2011 it becam unbearable since they did not even finish the things they started and neglected their core feature (stable as debian but easier to install on laptops)

    That being said, i actually own two devices which had ubuntu preinstalled.

  • I just don't get it. After all these years, freetards still insist that Linux has a place as a desktop OS. Well ... it does. Last place. Servers? Unquestionably a huge and vital presence. Let's leave it where it works best. Time to cry two tears in a bucket and say f#*k it -- goodbye desktop linux arguments.
  • No way... I've downloaded Ubuntu many times over the past 7 years - Stopped using it shortly there after each time. I just can't look back after that Unity debacle, what a wretched interface . I would bet he considers me 'a user'.. I've gone farther up the ecochain and use Debian.
  • I'm not sure what this number does it mean, but the Ubuntu community on G+ has 245,066 members. I think it's a good number, considering it's a opt-in signup.
  • He counted users the same way Oracle would have counted users of Oracle database for licensing purposes. If a user connects to Oracle database to get data, they are counted.
  • I've worked on ads that were seen by tens of millions of people, who knew that in the process they became windows users! I should apparently be hired as a Microsoft Evangelist. /s

    Windows was also used by Weta on those films. Every film has at least one windows license doing something. That means every Ubuntu user is simultaneously a Windows and OSX user.

  • I've been Microsoft Windows free for years and haven't noticed any dilution in my computing experience.

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