Ask Slashdot: What Windows-Only Apps Would You Most Like To See On Linux? 889
An anonymous reader writes: With all the recent brouhaha about Windows 10 privacy violations and forced updates, I'm one of those that wants to thank Microsoft very gently, while taking it by the hand, and slamming the door behind it for good. Fortunately for me, I don't use any special software that is tied to Windows, except games, of course. One program I would really miss though is Total Commander file manager, which is basically my interface to the whole OS. So, I know there are Linux alternatives, but which one is the best? Also, I currently use PaleMoon fork of Firefox as my main browser, but there doesn't seem to be a Linux variant. What other software would you want to transplant to Linux, if any?
Photoshop (Score:5, Interesting)
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Photoshop (Score:3)
I've a Linux lover and pusher but not a zelot. Sorry to say but GIMP tools and icons are just way to awkward. to use. I did manage to get some use out of it when I found this theme http://ubuntuforums.org/showth... [ubuntuforums.org] but could not get past the way the tool work and how they are manipulated. Yes I had a hard time switching from Windows to OpeSuse when I went full Linux in 2007 but that only took a few weeks with GIMP I just can't vs Photoshop.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Insightful)
Gimp eventually did become decent feature-wise, but of course it can't replace Photoshop for people who want Photoshop. People learn to work with images, using photoshop, and they don't want to learn a different way of doing things. They shouldn't need to. If you need Photoshop, you should just use that.
For me, I never learned photoshop, I tried to, several times, but just couldn't do basic stuff. Gimp was very easy for me to learn, I use it only for very simple stuff, like resizing pictures, color management, basic compositing, sprites, logos for web development, that kind of thing.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Interesting)
Gimp eventually did become decent feature-wise, but of course it can't replace Photoshop for people who want Photoshop. [..] For me, I never learned photoshop, I tried to, several times, but just couldn't do basic stuff. Gimp was very easy for me to learn, I use it only for very simple stuff [..]
I think that's the important point, and something that I found a few years ago when examining the usability of several free/open source software packages. Does GIMP have good or bad usability? [blogspot.com] There were some strong statements on either side: About half said it had good usability, and about half said it had bad usability. However, I decided to skip GIMP in my usability study, as it is intended for people who do need/want to do graphics work, and my usability test targeted the general user. But I didn't discuss the split opinions in the usability of GIMP.
In following up, it seemed that two types of users thought GIMP had poor usability:
Users who thought GIMP had good usability used Photoshop occasionally, such as hobbyist photographers or casual web designers. Digging further, I believe this is because:
So GIMP is an interesting case. It's an example of mimicking another program perhaps too well, but (necessarily) not perfectly. GIMP has good usability if you have used Photoshop occasionally, but not if you are an expert in Photoshop, and not if you are a complete Photoshop novice.
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GIMP became usable for me when they implemented single-window mode; now I use it all the time as my main image editing program. I'd probably find Photoshop harder to use because I've gotten used to the way GIMP does things.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Funny)
Also, GIMP should implement a like-for-like JavaScript language so that you could easily port Photoshop plugins over to GIMP easily. That's one of the main reasons that GIMP isn't a viable alternative to Photoshop.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Insightful)
I can tell you from my experience that I was once traveling with my wife - who is a graphic designer who uses the latest versions of every Adobe product - and we only had my laptop with. She needed to edit an image in a hurry so I told her to try GIMP (as her Adobe licenses are all Mac, which made them unusuable for me anyways). She didn't love it, but she was able to do what she needed in a short amount of time. I myself use GIMP all the time, but my needs as a scientist are much different from hers as a designer.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Interesting)
in Gimp, layers have boundaries. This doesn't seem to be a problem nearly as much as it used to be, but I have still run into it semi-recently. "I cropped your image because the part you were working on moved at some point in its history" is completely insane. Layer boundaries are visible by default, meaning your image starts with some square around its visible area, showing you... well, I don't actually know what it's intending to show you, as they seem to auto-resize for most operations these days.
The UI for the "resize" tool is so absurdly backwards that I suspect that it was implemented as a proof-of-concept for some pre-1.0 version and then never looked at again by a developer.
I'd say the same for the "text" tool, but I do recall a time when it was actually worse (it once didn't give any preview at all)
Want to change something's opacity from 0 to 100%? How about changing a brush size? Or maybe you want to select a colour from a range of hues? Each of these sliders has a completely different interface. Two of them share the ability to change their behaviour based on where (not indicated on the interface itself) you click / slide.
I'm not a graphic designer, so I rarely have need of GIMP or anything like it. When I do need it, I almost always want to: Paste a layer, resize it, probably copy it a few times, maybe change the opacity, maybe draw a circle around something, probably type in some text to explain what was circled. I don't need a lot from GIMP. The only things I interact with are the most basic of tools: move layers, resize layers, draw a squiggle, type some text. Even with these absolute basics, I encounter painful UI issues every time I load up GIMP.
I really enjoy graphic design, image manipulation, etc. But I would sooner install Windows and sign up for a £40/mo subscription to Photoshop than I would attempt to use GIMP for anything more complicated than I already use it for.
Just in case you were actually curious, that is what I find so intolerable. I can go into more detail, but I expect this summary is enough to give you an idea.
tl;dr: Try to do the most basic things I can think of wanting from an Image Manipulation Program; encounter UI which consistently prevents me from either seeing what I'm doing; never bothered trying to do anything less-basic because of it.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Informative)
I'm not ragging on gimp because you can't do stuff on it as obviously you can its just you shouldn't fight the tool to use it. Car analog, you go from driving a nice auto luxury car to diving a hoopty, manual with a bad clutch. They're both gonna get you to your location is just you'll be frustrated as hell with the hoopty.
I feel your analogy is inaccurate: I've never used Photoshop but I have used Gimp since it came out. Now when I try to use Photoshop I cannot understand the workflow and find it very unintuitive.
IOW, you're labelling one of the options bad because you're used to the other way of doing things. The way you're used to doing things may not necessarily be the best way to do things.
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Insightful)
People say this a lot, but Photoshop's UI is just as clumsy and awkward as GIMP's. You're just too used to its weirdness to see that anymore.
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Re:Photoshop, GIMP, and batch conversions (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not sure just what you needed to do to hundreds of icons but the first tool I would have looked at to perform a batch operation like that would have been ImageMagick and a simple shell script.
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Apps aren't the blocking element for the switch to Linux. I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's the ability to recover relatively painlessly that is lacking in Linux. As for apps, there are hundreds of business specific ones (TimeMatters for the legal profession, Photoshop for graphic artists, Final Cut Studio for film makers, and so on) the open source alternatives for these are woefully lacking - most don't exist and if they do they are pale imitations of the originals (GIMP vs Photoshop... th
Re:Photoshop (Score:5, Informative)
Apps aren't the blocking element for the switch to Linux. I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's the ability to recover relatively painlessly that is lacking in Linux.
Recover from what? Apps in Linux are typically very centralized in app-specific manners compared to Windows where everything tends to get thrown in and around the Windows Registry. Have an issue with Firefox? Reset firefox - rename its directory (~/.mozilla/firefox) and start-it up again; you can even recover the old stuff if you like. Have a user account issue? Just rename your user folder (/home/username) and login again.
The same cannot be said on Windows. Have an issue with an App on Windows? Good luck - find the registry setting that's causing the problem and reset it and its 4 or 5 backups. Have a user account issue? You might be able to get by with resetting a registry setting, but more likely than not you'll have to create a new user using the tools - so now you have all new ACLs, a new user directory, and you've lost all your settings, etc.
As for apps, there are hundreds of business specific ones (TimeMatters for the legal profession, Photoshop for graphic artists, Final Cut Studio for film makers, and so on) the open source alternatives for these are woefully lacking - most don't exist and if they do they are pale imitations of the originals (GIMP vs Photoshop... there's just no comparison).
Agreed. I can't move my wife to Linux simply because she's an accountant and needs access to Quicken/QuickBooks and others tools (MS Excel) that are pretty much industry standard for her. It would be great to have those all ported to Linux, but you'll have to convince a lot of corporate oriented software development houses (f.e Intuit) to do so. It's a big chicken-vs-egg issue - corporates won't move over unless there's software and the software devs won't make the software without the corporates.
First and foremost, something like the MS KB system for errors with the OS rather than 3rd hand forum jockeying.
So you do realize that every distribution has that kind of thing already, no?
Remote & trusted diagnostics/fixes that do not reset personal settings.
Well, the first part here is remote access. For Linux users that means adding a new user account and enabling SSH for a third-party to be able to access it. True, you could install TeamViewer, LogMeIn, or similar third-party services, but you have to first and foremost solve the remote-access issue.
Online anti-virus/malware/etc akin to Panda Software's old 'Active Scan' so that when stupid user syndrome hits it can be dealt with *without* having to lock my system down with every anti-whatever under the sun.
So now you're projecting issues from Windows onto Linux. Even then, there are tools - like the venerable Open Source ClamAV - which can do the job; but you typically don't need them to start with.
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MS Office, Adobe Stuff, Finale, Cubase, Kontakt (Score:3)
Here's my list:
MS Office
Canon Printer Software/Drivers/Utilities
Adobe: Photoshop, Premiere, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro
MakeMusic Finale
Cubase
Kontakt
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Re:Photoshop - Framemaker (Score:3, Interesting)
GIMP can handle the pictures. Now FrameMaker would be cool.
Way back when... I was a heavy Framemaker user on our Sun Workstations. I was bringing in Linux on 486s. I served as a beta test site for Adobe Framemaker on Linux. It worked flawlessly and I was ready to fork over similar license fees as I paid on my Sun Workstations. Then Adobe axed the release with some statement about how Linux users only wanted free stuff. My take away was, and remains, that Adobe is the most anti-linux shop out there. Way more of a problem than Microsoft.
Visual Studio + g++ || Clang (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Visual Studio + g++ || Clang (Score:4, Informative)
MS SQL Server on Linux and OS X would be sweet.
yeah it's called "sybase"
Re:Visual Studio + g++ || Clang (Score:4, Interesting)
Having used both, and knowing they share their ancestry... They diverged a looong time ago - MS SQL blows ASE out of the water; for performance, for reliability, for 3rd party tool and connector support, and even for their native tools (SSMS counts as just about the greatest IDE Microsoft has ever created; and I've tried a lot of FOSS clones with not a single one even close enough to stand in its shadow).
And no, not a MS fanboy. I love Linux but make my living in the MS world, and know both well enough to know what I love and what I hate about them. And MS SQL rules the DB world (Oracle aside... Though syntactically, I would still say I prefer tSQL over PLSQL) for a damned good reason.
Re:Visual Studio + g++ || Clang (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, but try finding an ASE DBA.
You do realize that SQL Server is a fork of sybase? Microsoft never had the chops to write a competent SQL engine so they went out and bought a copy of the sybase source. They have diverged slightly over the years but their clients are compatible with each other and you will generally find them to be just about identical.
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This is the smaller "Code" version, but still - https://code.visualstudio.com/... [visualstudio.com]
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You know, I was going to reply with a snarky comment about how "Can we all just admit to ourselves that we'll probably never see Microsoft programs on Linux", but seeing how Microsoft has been changing ever so slightly recently, I'm not sure anymore. They do seem a bit more inclined with their new CEO to be present everywhere and to be seen as more of a service you can use anywhere, but I'm sure they'd have to balance this with the resources necessary they'd have to assign to making them work, and work wel
Re:Visual Studio + g++ || Clang (Score:4, Interesting)
VS is definitely a very nice IDE for C++.
I can understand the appeal of Visual Studios having used it for a number of years; however, I have found I am by far a better coder without it. And no, I don't miss VS.
If you want integrated debugging, there are a number of projects that do that and do it well. GDB has been extended to have interfaces specifically for doing so - so it's easier for programmatic access to GDB, and programs like ddd (http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/) and QtCreator utilize it.
And honestly, QtCreator is about the closest thing to VS, and in many ways superior for JS/C++/Qt programming.
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Microsoft Paint (Score:5, Funny)
the choice of oekaki artists
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GIMP is indeed overkill for many tasks or users. A light-duty image editor would be nice.
However, please add local and general blurring, brightness/contrast/alpha tuning, and basic color adjusting with red/green/blue channel shifting (alpha curve). Don't need layers.
Re:Microsoft Paint (Score:4, Insightful)
How light-duty? F-Spot [f-spot.org] is more like Lightroom than a simpler Photoshop.
Re:Microsoft Paint (Score:4, Interesting)
GIMP is indeed overkill for many tasks or users. A light-duty image editor would be nice.
However, please add local and general blurring, brightness/contrast/alpha tuning, and basic color adjusting with red/green/blue channel shifting (alpha curve). Don't need layers.
You want KolourPaint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
It is part of KDE. Install it on *buntus with:
$ sudo apt-get install kolourpaint4
Re:Microsoft Paint (Score:5, Funny)
oekaki
Ohhh, no, I ain't googling that.
Microsoft Excel (Score:3, Insightful)
Microsoft Excel
Free Libre/Openoffice versions suck balls.
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This would make a big difference to accountants. To most of us, LibreOffice Calc does the job, but it's missing a lot of little features that heavy users depend on, and working around them would be too much of a PITA.
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Gnumeric is so much better than Libreoffice Calc.
Games (Score:5, Interesting)
Embedded toolchains would be nice too (esp ARM), but that's my boss' Windows box, not mine
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Steam has a pretty good number of linux-compatible games now. Not nearly as many as Windows, of course, but it's moving in the right direction.
Frankly, I think that users who like both OSs and use Steam should probably buy and initially download the games that are compatible with Linux ON Linux so that Steam gets those metrics (which would hopefully provide encouragement to continue Linux offerings).
Definately (Score:5, Funny)
3D Pinball for Windows – Space Cadet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt!_Pinball#3D_Pinball_for_Windows_.E2.80.93_Space_Cadet
Linux brouhaha (Score:3, Insightful)
With the current brouhaha about systemd perhaps you should skip linux and aim for pc-bsd.
(Half joking)
A more interesting question... (Score:3, Interesting)
What Linux-only apps would you like to see available on Windows?
I honestly can't think of any. Almost all the useful apps available for Linux are available for Windows, too. And what's left is mostly Linux-specific system-management stuff.
And THAT is the problem with Linux on the desktop. There simply aren't any compelling applications that aren't ALSO available for Windows or OS X. Yes, security is good (though ACL support still sucks, which is ridiculous), and not having to worry about viruses is nice, too. But those are secondary concerns, honestly.
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Duplicity, and by extension rsync. I tried using Duplicati on Windows for a while, but it didn't really work, so I migrated my server to Linux to get a more robust backup solution. It is true that this is a server and not a desktop, and all of my office and home desktops still run Windows. Microsoft has really improved Windows a lot in the last 10 years, and I don't miss Linux on the desktop at all anymore -- except for rsync. And if I really wanted it, I suppose I could use Cygwin.
Actually, I also miss Deb
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What Linux-only apps would you like to see available on Windows?
I honestly can't think of any. Almost all the useful apps available for Linux are available for Windows, too. And what's left is mostly Linux-specific system-management stuff.
And THAT is the problem with Linux on the desktop. There simply aren't any compelling applications that aren't ALSO available for Windows or OS X. Yes, security is good (though ACL support still sucks, which is ridiculous), and not having to worry about viruses is nice, too. But those are secondary concerns, honestly.
A good command-line SSH program that fits into the command-prompt like the telnet program does. I don't want to navigate dialogue boxes when I just want to ssh to a given IP address or hostname.
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It depends. If you are used to linux workflows (often involving the command line) then there is no way you can have that good enough in windows. cygwin is not good enough. For many users today (but still a small minority, I admit) linux is nicer and there is just a few apps "missing", which is the question of this article.
Personally, I get by with wine for the 2 missing apps (3d games). The rest (games) is available on steam today. There is no windows "productivity" app that I would need, but that is just m
Cygwin (Score:5, Funny)
Cygwin
Music/DAW software (Score:2)
If I can't use Finale, DP, maybe Cubase and Protools, not to mention all the VSTs and pro audio hardware, I can't move to a different OS.
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I'll second this. Muse is nice, but it doesn't match Finale or (my preference) Sibelius. I can do around 90% of my stuff in Linux; I only have dual boot for a few games and music composing/editing.
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I take it Rosegarden+LilyPond and/or Muse or Ardour don't meet your needs?
SolidWorks and Word (Score:5, Insightful)
I could do pretty much all my research on Linux, if it weren't for SolidWorks and the damned Word.
Regarding Word: I like LaTex a lot, and use it whenever I can, but I research in a multidisciplinary environment and am first author for articles submitted in such a multitude of journals, that Word is, sadly, unavoidable - there's plenty of journals that only accept Word docs.
And regarding SolidWorks: yes, I know there are other 3D CAD packages that can do similar things, but I am so proficient with SW that I am not going to switch to something else. There's a lot of time and money invested in my rapidity with SW.
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Solid Works for sure but also Office Photoshop, Visual Studio, and Flight Simulator X.
There is not a single 3d FOSS CAD system as good as Solidworks.
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Have a look at the recent versions of FreeCAD.
I was very surprised how much progress they have made since I have last looked at the project.
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Is the OpenOffice/LibreOffice compatibility so poor that it can't be used in place of Word?
Yes, it is...
Don't misunderstand, it is close, but close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons...
When it comes to professional submissions to journals and other business uses, close isn't good enough...
Re:SolidWorks and Word (Score:4, Insightful)
When it comes to professional submissions to journals and other business uses, close isn't good enough...
you are correct, LaTeX is really the only choice here
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Yes, it's not even close when you get to anything other than very basic formatting. I tried to open a few lab reports in OpenOffice recently, and the formatting was completely incomprehensible. It's laughably bad.
Re:SolidWorks and Word (Score:4, Informative)
Microsoft Word (Score:2)
Ok, I kid, I kid, although it would be nice to be able to open a word document and have it layout exactly as the Windows-based writer intended it...
My vote goes to Photoshop.
Also some specialized software that are popular for processing astrophotos like Deep Space Stacker, Registax etc would be nice to have in Linux, but I'd be generally happy with just a native Photoshop.
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Word doesn't even completely interoperate with Word for Mac, as far as that goes.
Re:Microsoft Word (Score:5, Interesting)
Word doesn't even completely interoperate with Word for Mac, as far as that goes.
Word on Windows doesn't even completely interoperate with Word for Windows, as far as that goes.
Remote WMI (Score:2)
It would be nice if a fully supported and working version of remote WMI worked on Linux. That way you could manage and monitor windows servers from Linux.
Visio (Score:3)
Just about everything else I've found good alternatives for, and maybe there are some good alternatives for Visio and I just haven't found them, but the real deal certainly does seem nice. There have been times when I've needed to use it fairly often, these days it's pretty rare actually, maybe once a year or so...
And while there's lots that's nice about it, I'm not even sure it's the application that's really the killer for me, but the large available base of existing stencils, and I think that's causing a feedback loop: no one makes stencils in any other format because there isn't a widely accepted alternative format, and no apps can get a foothold because of the lack of stencils. So it's really the format wars all over again, but in a smaller niche.
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MS Visio (Score:2)
Sony's Sound Forge and Vegas Video (Score:3)
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The current offerings for audio and video editing in Linux are not close.
As someone recent converted to Linux (Score:3)
I've been using linux full time for about 6 months now. There definitely have been a few gotchas that I've come across. Most of them are resolvable, but I would still put Outlook as an program that needs to run on Linux. I can make do with Open Office for the rest of the MS Office suite.
I've used Evolution and Thunderbird as replacements, and they can for the most part function as email clients, neither of the calendar options are anywhere near "Excellent"
While I have run across a few issues with in Calc (it has a lower limit of columns than Excel does), None of them are show stoppers.
I work in the Call Center industry so I'd like Avaya's applications to run natively as well. CMS Supervisor and One-x Agent to be specific. Those I have resorted to a WinXP virtual machine.
All in all, I'm 99.9% functional in Linux... But as far as my own stats go... I was probably only 99.9% functional in Windows too.
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Oh I want to add Skype as well.
It works, yes... as long as you don't want to view someone else's screen. It's horribly blurry trying to view someone's desktop.
Adobe CreativeCloud & BlackBerry Blend (Score:2)
I'd take BlackBerry Blend and Adobe's Creative Cloud. (Specifically InDesign.)
Music apps (Score:2)
Delphi (Score:2)
A fully compatible version of Delphi so Christian can write Total Commander for Linux to run natively.
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I wonder how well it would work compiling it under FreePascal?
Exchange (Score:4, Insightful)
In short the features that cause large companies to choose Exchange and therefore Microsoft Office.
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Check out Sogo
http://www.sogo.nu/ [www.sogo.nu]
Highly recommended
Pale Moon does work on linux (Score:5, Informative)
Also, I currently use PaleMoon fork of Firefox as my main browser, but there doesn't seem to be a Linux variant.
Pale Moon does work on Linux, just fine a I might add. You can even copy over your profile from windows to Linux and everything will continue to work:
http://linux.palemoon.org/download/installer/ [palemoon.org]
Informative (Score:3)
This should be modded higher.
On the other hand, it sounds like the Linux version is still a little clunky, at least to install. It really should be available as a set of .DEB/.RPM/whatever packages, or ideally already in the standard repositories. By all means continue to have a version that is independent of package management software, but a tarball and an install script... well, that's not really what people are looking for.
The ones I use in VirtualBox/XP (Score:2)
Exchange (or Fully Compatible Linux App)
MS Project (or FCLA)
Adobe Lightroom Pro
Starry Night
iTunes
Video Editing Software (Score:2)
Video editing software, like Sony Vegas or DaVinci Resolve.
In my limited experience, the editors on Linux are either unstable or limited in advanced features like picture grading and audio clean-up (dynamic range compressors, frequency filters, etc.).
Regedit (Score:5, Funny)
Come on, Poettering, you can do it.
Real OS question (Score:5, Funny)
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Nvidia/ATI driver quality equal to or surpassing.. (Score:3)
Outlook Clone (Score:3)
Do that well and corporate linux users will take notice.
There is a version of Palemoon for Linux. (Score:3)
If I had to pick just one (Score:4, Interesting)
If I was going to port just one piece of software to Linux, it would be the Windows 7 Desktop Environment.
Outlook (Score:3)
It's the only reason I run a Windows VM. Corporate processes :(
How about ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Industry-specific applications (Score:3)
There are a few application that I use in my business which are specific to my industry. My office can't function without them, and they only run on Windows. Many businesses have similar software that caters to their niche. The developers probably only sell a few dozen licenses every year, so it doesn't make sense for them to port to a different OS. I'd love to use Linux on my office desktops (my office server runs Linux), but I need to be in Windows for these applications, and they are definitely never coming to Linux.
My #1... (Score:3)
Sony Vegas or AVID.
I want a pro video editing suite not the useless buggy toys we keep getting. I would happily pay a lot for it as well.
After Effects would also be nice, but I have been doing a lot of compositing in Blender lately.
And no Blender is NOT useable for video editing, it's a kludge.
Pale Moon? (Score:3)
Uh, what? I use Pale Mon on my Ubuntu system at home. What makes you think there is no Linux version?
irfanView (Score:3)
I know that there are plenty of other image viewers, but I find it fast and easy to use, while having a lot of useful features for tasks that fall short of requireing a full image editor (e.g. view EXIF info, brightness curve editing, rescaling, lossless jpeg 90-degree rotations).
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Why do you dislike it so much?
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But OP also mentioned switching to Fastmail too. SQM is not new and I know about the forced telemetry on non-enterprise editions, but I do feel bad about in particular the hosts file bypass BTW if it is actually true.
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Emacs has a vi built in, it should also have a notepad++ built in.
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Why Turbo Tax? I mean 8 or 9 years ago I would get the CD. 7 years ago I would download the installer. But now it just works on the web. Sign up, pay, and use it in the browser. Why would anyone install it anymore?
That works fine for simple tax returns; but you can get more advanced versions for the more complex returns. Not everything in the client-side installed software is available in the web version.
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Been using it for 12 years, so I have a lot of historical data that I don't want to give up (yes, I'm a digital hoarder).
if you don't have a backup that you can restore onto another computer, you are guaranteed to be totally screwed when your computer has a hardware failure
Re:Tools (Score:4, Insightful)
Ufnfortunatly most of the programing tools I use for embedded systems are windows only.
Wait wat?
Which embedded systems do you target? I've been doing embedded systems for 10+ years now, and the only tool I need Windows for is Excel - to fill in the company travel expenses.
Synopsys, Mentor, Xilinx, Altera, TI, ARM - they all run on Linux. Plus all the compilers for the microcontrollers tend to be gcc based anyways. And the small startup companies' embedded system IDEs seem to invariably be built on Eclipse.
Have I just been lucky? Or do we define 'embedded' diferently?
Re:None of them (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:None of them (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:None of them (Score:4, Insightful)
You're a bunch of assholes who cannot understand business. People pay for Office because it's better.
No, people pay for Office because they have to. Nobody actually thinks it is better.
It was better. Then Ribbon and Metro screwed it up royally. It was like Microsoft Bob got applied to Office.
I find LibreOffice is a lot faster to work with for the vast majority of what I do. Only problems I have using it are when someone takes custom documents/templates too far and they don't want to work right because they're so locked down that they even don't always work right in MS Office.
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They just released a beta build (with a .deb) last last week.
http://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/... [unity3d.com]