Knoppix 7.2 Released 53
hypnosec writes "Knoppix 7.2 has been released for public testing — unlike its predecessor, Knoppix 7.1, which was only made available through the annual Linux Magazine CeBIT edition. Based on Debian "Wheezy", Knoppix 7.2 packs quite a few new features, including newer desktop packages from Debian/testing and Debian/unstable Jessie. The latest version uses the Linux 3.9 kernel and xorg 7.7, and comes loaded with LibreOffice 4.0, GIMP 2.8, Chromium 27 (and Firefox/Iceweasel 21), Wine 1.5, and Virtualbox version 4.2.10. It uses LXDE by default. For users who still want to go for KDE or GNOME, version 4.8.4 and 3.4.2 of the respective desktops are available from the Knoppix DVD."
Re:Anybody use Knoppix today? Great stuff at one t (Score:5, Insightful)
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Assuming your BIOS has the option to boot from USB... yes?
Re:Anybody use Knoppix today? Great stuff at one t (Score:4, Informative)
The software included is specifically useful for recovery, the desktop is non-arcane and reasonably complete yet light, these facts make it very useful.
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Finnix is also excellent if you do not want or need a desktop environment.
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For recovery how does Knoppix compare with these:
http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/ [ubuntu-rescue-remix.org]
http://lifehacker.com/5984707/five-best-system-rescue-discs [lifehacker.com]
Yes knoppix is one of the options listed in the latter article but there's no comparison or review really being made.
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Well, KNOPPIX is still being actively developed, for one thing.
From the Ubuntu Rescue Remix web site:
I am officially on hiatus and will not be providing support for the Rescue Remix in the future. If you would like to continue the project, please contact me.
On top of that, KNOPPIX has been around for much longer and has been highly influential, it practically made live CDs a reality, and it continues its excellence to this day. Basically, it has an excellent track record.
On the Lifehacker article you linked to, the only one that's even in KNOPPIX's league in terms of usefulness and quality is the generically-named SystemRescueCD. The Ultimate Boot CD can be o
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Oh, I should mention a few more better general-purpose live distros that would make excellent recovery discs: aptosid and the forked siduction, and the originally heavily KNOPPIX-inspired KANOTIX. All are excellent, and each one has its pros and cons. All three are Debian-based.
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it's frequently updated, and the version included in the UBCD tends to be outdated often.
Yeah... for system maintenance purposes; I would generally prefer to have 3 CDs
Removing HPA? W00t! (Score:2)
I probably won't get around to using it, but a couple of years ago I had a disk get its Host Protected Area set (by a maliciously well-intentioned external drive enclosure), and after I couldn't fix it, I went to my friend the late Hugh Daniel, and he and I spent a long evening trying to get the Linux HPA tools to work, rebuilt Linux kernels a couple of times, consumed lots of pizza, and only succeeded in making the HPA bigger, never smaller. The tools just weren't good enough, and the documentation on HPA
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I don't know, but it's not necessary to choose between them. You can start with Knoppix. If Knoppix cannot recognize a required device; try a few of the others.
In my experience, if Knoppix doesn't have the driver -- none of the common rescue disks have the driver, though.
Last I checked what was sorely lacking was a PVSCSI driver and a VMXNET3 driver For rescuing virtual machines with Knoppix.
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I still use Knoppix when I just want to try one of the preinstalled packages. It comes with more software than any other live Linux DVD. Knoppix is still my goto live Linux system because its file structure is much simpler than other live Linux distributions (kernel, initial ramdisk and one or two big filesystem image files).
I believe it's also popular with vision impaired people, because it comes with an accessibility enhanced desktop environment named Adriane (which is also the first name of Klaus Knopper
Re:Anybody use Knoppix today? Great stuff at one t (Score:4, Interesting)
It's still my go to system on a disk whenever anyone has issues with windows, or (much more rare) linux computers.
I've tried all kinds of 'other' live cd's Knoppix was the first, and is still, imo, the best.
I think my oldest knoppix cd is 3, or maybe earlier.
jaz
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I was curious myself and I couldn't take it any more, just had to find out how it runs these days myself so I'm actually typing this up on KNOPPIX 7.2 right now. I've run it plenty of times in virtual machines, but I haven't tried it out on bare hardware in years. I was fascinated with KNOPPIX back when I was still learning Linux, and in fact in was one of the primary ways I learned Linux and its command line. One of the things I was never a fan of in KNOPPIX and which hasn't really changed is its all-or
Which distro news does /. now cover? (Score:2)
Okay, I can understand a major release of one of the popular Linux distros being covered here - Debian, Fedora, RedHat, Ubuntu, Mint, Mageia/Mandriva, Slackware, Gentoo, Centos, OEL.
But Knoppix? WTF? Then why would any distro not be covered? Normally, the right answer to that one is that there are >600 distros, so it would be ridiculous to cover all or even most of them. But if you're gonna cover Knoppix, then why not other obscure distros, such as Sacix, Hikarunix, Xubuntu, gNewSense, Pentoo, Manj
Knoppix? Obscure? (Score:2)
Get off my lawn, punk! I mean, if you're trolling, fine, have fun, and Ubuntu livecds have been good enough to use them instead of Knoppix for the last few years, but it was THE standard save-your-ass repair tool to keep around.
Crazy that it's still around (Score:4, Insightful)
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Wake me up when Ubuntu runs in under 512MB RAM and boots in just a few seconds. KNOPPIX, once booted with LXDE fully loaded and ready to go, only uses 90-95MB total.
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Just because, I went and burned a DVD, booted it, created a flashram usb,(effortless install) booted it, (really really fast boot, in the realm of fifteen seconds start to finish) created another flashram (on an sdcard, no less) booted it,(again, really really fast) booted and checked wifi on three different devices, all of which have given me mucho problems in the past. All three devices wifi was detected, and within seconds I had internet access, with no stress or effort.
I chose to create an addit
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Yep. KNOPPIX will always be special to me, because not only was it one of the first distributions I tried, it made doing so and learning the basics of Linux a breeze. Burn a disc, reboot. Explore, learn. Reboot again and you're back in your regular OS (for me, Windows at the time). I learned a lot from KNOPPIX, back when virtual machines weren't common or as easily possible. I think some of the oldest versions I tried were 3.3 and 3.4... which corresponds to 2004 on Distrowatch, which is when I first
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I think I was running Windows98 at the time and I had a mighty 2x speed CDR with no buffer underrun.
Within a few minutes of booting I had the browser running, my favourite forum open and I'd posted a screengrab of the desktop plus a few windows. I was very impressed.
It's a shame I haven't had the same experience since with teh many laptops I've tried it on, and with other live CDs. I understand WiFi has always been a bugger to get working...
Multiple uses (Score:5, Funny)
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Hack into a computer at a US airport like this, and in addition to free WiFi they'll include a free trip to Cuba [wikipedia.org]!
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long time listener, first time caller... (Score:2)
Since I discovered Knoppix so many years ago I lost count now, I've never been without a disc. It's come in useful for such diverse projects as forensic recovery prep to running full-install desktops on a variety of gear. Including the most kickarse Dell Dimension upgrade I've ever done, which was basically a new board, dual quad-Xeon, 16GB of RAM, twelve-head video with 4GB GDDR3 between four cards, and so many flight controllers, pedals and freakish-looking throttle controls I began to wonder if I was bu
A good bootable EFI (Score:2)
I love Knoppix as my boot to DVD linux. I'm have a Macbook retina which means no internal DVD. I'd like to have Linux that boots. I've tried some of the EFI solutions... Does anyone have a Linux that works well on the retina for USB boot? Is there some variant of Knoppix that's tested to work?
Re:A good bootable EFI (Score:4, Interesting)
Experimental support for UEFI-Boot (DVD: 32 and 64bit, CD: only 32bit) after installation on USB flash disk.
...), the program flash-knoppix can be started from a running Knoppix system. This program installs all needed Knoppix files onto the FAT-formatted flashdisk, and creates a boot record for it. If desired, the target medium can be partitioned and fornatted, or left in its inistal state, so that existing files stay intact. The KNOPPIX Live System starts and runs about factor 5 faster from USB flash disk than from CD or DVD!
In order to create a bootable USB-medium (memory flashdisk, SD-card, digital camera with USB connector, cellphone with microSD,
It looks like you have to get a Knoppix system running first before you create the thumb drive, but with your Mac all that requires is a little time with Virtual Box [virtualbox.org] (or equivalent). Give it a try and post the results!
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not even that... you can boot a Macbook Pro from an optical drive (or mounted disc image shared virtual drive) on another computer (I would assume this feature is platform-independent) over ethernet!
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I have another Mac with a drive I can use for installation so I can do the DVD test. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Well test is complete.
The installation does work. The instructions are a bit sparse but it allows you to both a KNOPPIX image and a linux file system for extra storage. All the space needs to be consumed though I assume afterwards you can adjust that. The EFI did boot an older iMac fine but did not boot my rMBP. When Knoppix booted from USB I had a weird German / English hybrid that was hard to use (some items in English, keyboard was German...) so it doesn't appear to have completely preserved language
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Ubuntu has been bootable on a Mac from a USB drive for a while. Before 12.04.2 it was harder to then install the system sometimes. See UEFI [ubuntu.com] for comments on what changed. Everything should work at this point on versions after that one. Recent changes in Knoppix should allow this latest version to work too. There are a lot more people working on Mac support in Ubuntu than Knoppix though.
If you have a PC system available, it's helpful to test booting there, so you can be sure the drive is fine before movi
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I saw all the Ubuntu stuff and tried but I couldn't get it to work. Ubunut worked fine on older Macs but not on the retina. Also tried various rEFI loaders. The problem I had was most of the rEFIs didn't work well with the Linux images so they couldn't boot Linux and the Linux boot loaders couldn't be configured properly. I definite felt like I was close but I'd love a slightly more "all in one" type solution. If it has gotten better good, otherwise I'm SOL as far as Ubuntu solutions.
It is a bit frustr
Amazing (Score:2, Redundant)
It's 2013 and Windows can still shit the bed without any recovery method except reinstalling or (maybe) Linux.
P.S. Microsoft spent $100 billion developing Windows.
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I've had a Windows 7 laptop since March 2010 and the only time it has ever shit the bed is on four occasions where I've done three things at the same time:
1. clocked the memory (6GB is hard to eat when all you're doing is downsampling video, though I've managed to do it by having well over a hundred Virtualdub sessions going at the same time)
2. overheated the processor (by "overheated" read: software monitor readout said 95+ Celsius. I didn't think an AMD E-350 could get that hot and live!)
3. started World
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What's wrong with the system recovery methods included with Windows? It has always puzzled me how people can be so smart in one thing and so dumb or closed minded or whatever in another. I guess that's the definition of a troll but it's embarrassing in a semi-technical forum.
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What's wrong with the methods? You mean aside from the fact they don't work?
Aside from the fact I still can't partition a disk with a Windows install DVD? Aside from the fact that Windows can't recognize a disk partitioned with anything else, including its own partition software?
Windows is a gigantic shit-sucking vortex of fuckwhizzy. It always has been and it always will be. Windows is the worst thing that has ever happened to the human race. It is a blasphemous horned blot on the cosmos. It is the a
flash-knoppix (Score:4, Interesting)
...Ok I am really missing something. I used to love knoppix, but now everything is a live CD. I am as likely to quickly get a copy of Ubuntu Live CD running off a stick to get up and running quickly.(although this does have the advantage of having mdadm on the disk). In fact a full installation of Ubuntu onto a pen drive is more useful.
There is not much information about flash-knoppix, and how it is different from say "startup disk creator"...and I noticed this from the text description "In order to create a bootable USB-medium (memory flashdisk, SD-card, digital camera with USB connector, cellphone with microSD, ...)," Okay I have never thought about using the MicroSD in my cell phone that is incredibly cool.
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I disagree; everything is most definitely not a live CD. And while just about everything *provides* a live CD these days, it tends to be an option and I always levitate toward the more "traditional" installer CD/DVD. I'm not a fan of live CDs as installation discs; never was. As a live CD, KNOPPIX whips Ubuntu in performance and resource usage... it's no comparison.
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They have lots of mirrors. Just try a different one.
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html [knopper.net]