Mandriva Juggles Multiple Codebases 44
jfruh writes "In the wake of its decision to cede control of its Linux distro to its community, Mandriva is trying a tricky balancing act: offering Linux products based on two different code bases. Desktop and OEM offerings will be based on the Mandriva distro, while server products will be based on the traditional Mageia codebase." Update: As babai101 points out the codebases were reversed in the original post.
OP got it wrong! (Score:5, Informative)
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In fact, the whole point is that in house is a simplification. mandriva SA is controlled by 2 heads, one from JM Crozet, a switzerland business man, and the other by leonid Reiman, a russian "businessman", whose record on the web should explain why no one would say no to him. So basically, what is the reason of a complex strategy is the result of a compromise :
- desktop is mainly targetted at russian school and the rosa distribution. Rosa pay people who pushed the incompatibility with Mageia for innovation
No problems (Score:3)
Yeah, no problems keeping those straight.
Redhat/Fedora (Score:4, Insightful)
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Each major RHEL release starts with a fork from a Fedora release.
RHEL6 is apparently based on Fedora 12/13 [wikipedia.org]
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Fedora is basically the experimental version of RedHat - Red Hat uses Fedora to test the integration of bleeding edge (Desktop) technology which then will eventually end up in RHEL.
In my (3-4 years old) experience this results in every Fedora version upgrade breaking something new.
I think the original Fedora codebase (when they migrated from being a set of extra repositories to being a full-blown distro) was taken from the (discontinued) Red Hat Linux, with some caveats (see above rgd stability) Fedora has
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Mageia is a fork of the rock solid Mandriva 2010 codebase, Mandriva crashed with their experimental 2011 codebase and threw out the main builders of the product, these builders united in september 2010 to start Mageia.
They used the Mandriva 2010 to build the servers that make the distribution (puppet based) and made the Mageia 1 distro with the servers in june 2011.
At this moment Mageia 2 is out there but it is not as stable, the product is in the middle of changing from startup scripts to systemd and has d
Mageia/PCLinux (Score:2)
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PCLinux is an old fork, probably it is too far from the codebase of Mandriva.
Texstar (PCLinux' maintainer) used to be a packager for Mandriva years ago, he rpm'd a lot of applications in those days, and the packages were of exceptional quality.
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Who cares that you don't care??
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I love it when people do this: click through to read articles they claim they're not interested it, apparently unaware of how websites track reader interests. Every click on an article, going in to read it in full, is literally a vote for more articles like it. It's your way of saying, "Hey, I love these kinds of articles -- they interest me -- please post more like this one!" Of course, if you're afraid one click isn't enough, there's a way to totally trump that and magnify your vote for more articles o
Step one: Call it Mandrake again. (Score:5, Insightful)
This is exciting to see. Giving the community greater influence over the future development of the distro has put this on my list to watch. I've used Ubuntu and Fedora (laptop and desktop) for years, but I used Mandrake years back and would be open minded to doing so again.
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I also enjoyed Mandrake for quite a stretch. At some point, they started littering the install process, and then the desktop with ads. I respect the need for a revenue model, but I feel the experience was too intrusive. There were plenty of alternatives, so I jumped ship.
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There are many example of open source projects where the feedback of the community is solicited by developers and over time results in improvements. Blender and Gimp are two that jump to mind, but there are many others. Mandriva becoming a distro that is tailored by it's fans has great potential to serve as an example.
Cynicism is an ugly trait. You should work on that.
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But wouldn't using Mandrake re-invoke copyright battles w/ Hearst corporation, who had already won a case against them in 2004 over the use of that name? As it is, Mandrake Corporation was already in trouble due to the use of the magicians's bowler hat and wand as its logo, and to top that, the use of a Linux tool named Lothar, who in the strip was Mandrake's friend and principle body-building aide. The merger w/ Connectiva and the resulting name change resolved that issue. The last thing the company nee
Whats the difference? (Score:2)
Whats the difference between desktop and server other than what marketing has tried to create?
Imagine having to support two versions of mysql, one on the KDE desktops and one on the backend server. Lovely.
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About $5000... ba da bum bum...
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What's the difference between a desktop and a kiosk at a shopping? And a point-of-sale thin client? And a node at a beowulf configuration? Do you think we could use the same thing all the time?
Uh, yeah, thats kind of the point of a universal operating system. Dramatically lower support costs.
sacrificing performance for less latency is a worthy goal to pursue
You've got to be kidding. Why would I want a high latency server? Besides you're arguing very small percentage gains.
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Pear, at one point, seemed like it was trying to create a MacOS desktop out of GNOME3. It took GNOME3, which everyone at the time was complaining about, made some changes to it to make it look completely like OS-X, even w/ its own app store and everything. Only way one would notice the difference - Opera instead of Safari (which doesn't exist for either Linux nor BSD, AFAIK), and a few other apps in the docking table. But more recently, after they became Comice, they seem to have shifted to covering thei
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Burocracy, the name that you use because "discussing with other and try to be democratic" or "planning before doing" is not a good term when you want to criticize people.
And you do realize that Mandrakesoft start in 1998 ? So when you say in the 1990, you are just saying it was good the 2 first year and that's all ?
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I'm sure they could. However, I'm not sure they are connected with mandriva in any substantive way
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Mandriva 2011 was a disaster. They should ditch it (Score:2)
Mandriva 2010.x was stable and worked very well and this is the basis for Mageia.
If there we
Mandriva/mageia:there's nothing left to talk about (Score:2)
The Mandrake Team created a dependency tool (urpmi) at a time when only debian did, and poor redhat users had to download dependencies by hand.
The Mandriva Team improved on the -drake family of tools, and came up with a centralized configuration panel : the MCC ; SuSE was doing the same ahead of 6 months, and poor debian users had to dpkg-reconfigure each packages by hand.
In all that time, it was still the same people doing the good job (Pixel, warly, fpons, and so on).
Now that they have all left (fired or