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Adobe Releases New 64-Bit Flash Plugin For Linux 240

TheDarkener writes "Adobe seems to have made an about face regarding their support for native 64-bit Linux support for Flash today, and released a new preview Flash plugin named 'Square.' This includes a native 64-bit version for Linux, which I have verified works on my Debian Lenny LTSP server by simply copying to /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins — with sound (which I was never able to figure out with running the 32-bit version with nspluginwrapper and pulseaudio)."
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Adobe Releases New 64-Bit Flash Plugin For Linux

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  • by gmthor ( 1150907 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @08:06AM (#33598106)
    What would really interests me more is, if it has a suitable performance.
    Right now I only use flash, if my room temperature drops to low.
    • Should do. 32-bit was pretty impressive. Way better than HTML5 or Silverlight.
      • ....Depending on the version.

        I've had some versions of Flash that were actually rather solid, then they fix a few security holes then I'm suddenly using 100% CPU on YouTube videos and so my choices are to downgrade and get a security hole or keep having a nearly unusable plugin.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Hell if you're only wanting YouTube, then forget using the Adobe Flash player and use Gnash. Works fine for most of them in Standard Def (have no idea about the HD content) and it doesn't work with most adverts due to being compatible with flash 7.

    • by nschubach ( 922175 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @08:24AM (#33598240) Journal

      I noticed that I can now watch 720p video without hitches, and neither of my cores were maxed out. You may need a new room heater.

    • by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @08:29AM (#33598276) Journal
      In the winter, the metal case of my laptop makes the wrist rests a bit too chilly to want to use for more than a short time. I got into the habit of leaving a Flash game running in the background for ten minutes in the morning to warm them up.
    • It is a pig (Score:3, Interesting)

      It is a pig. Playing videos with this uses about 5x the CPU and 35 watts more power as playing the same video with VLC (measured via a Kill-A-Watt). Details:

      Running Ubuntu 10.04 on my Athlon II X4 635 in a 780G motherboard with on-board Radeon HD3200 graphics (using the Radeon driver), playing a 480p clip from Hulu scaled to 1080p full screenuses 220% CPU (eg, over two full cores). If I download the same video from hulu with get_flash_videos, I can play it in VLC with 35% CPU utilization (eg, less than 1

    • Does it kill the scroll wheel, too? Backward compatibility matters!

  • Hey Adobe! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Rik Sweeney ( 471717 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @08:11AM (#33598142) Homepage

    Where the hell's the 64 bit version?!

  • I know flash gets much hate around here, but the old 64 bit version actually wokrs pretty well, and I must confess that I didn't uninstall in spite of the security holes. Now I can get an up to date version... rock. I will say that trying to use the 32 bit version using nspluginwrapper is like drilling a hole in your head, and I wonder how many complaints are really based around that rather than flash itself.

    • I'll bet pretty much all of them (besides video.) I've been running the old 64-bit player as well. This new one is VERY nice for video.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      I know flash gets much hate around here....

      Nah, not at all.

      BTW, is the source code released? I want to add code that gives a fatal shock to developers and designers who use Flash.

    • I know flash gets much hate around here, but the old 64 bit version actually wokrs pretty well, and I must confess that I didn't uninstall in spite of the security holes.

      Lets face it, all software has security holes found in it at some point. If you uninstalled every bit of software that was insecure in some way you machine would be pretty empty and useless.

      Now in the case of software that you point at the web it does make sense for it to me treated with a slightly higher threshold but still, if you spend a lot of time browsing untrusted site you are asking for trouble sooner or later if you run still Windows. The main thing that keeps Linux and MAC users safe is not so muc

  • There are also Mac OSX and Windows versions. []
  • by tokul ( 682258 )
    Record low temperatures are reported in hell
  • Hulu hasn't worked with x86-64 for some time. Hulu blames flash, and Adobe blames Hulu. Wonder if this new vesion will fix things.

    • I had never tried Hulu before. I just watched Rocky and Bullwinkle with this new plugin on amd64.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Andy Dodd ( 701 )

      I've got a 64-bit Linux machine and Hulu has worked (mostly) fine for me, except for fullscreen transitions sometimes breaking. (Sometimes when I go fullscreen, the video appears BELOW all windows, not above them.)

      I'll try the new version when I get back from a trip this weekend. :)

    • by puto ( 533470 )
      Works fine on my Thinkpad on Win 7 64 with the new plugin.
      • I should have been more specific....
        Does it work with Hulu on Linux x86-64?
        Not too many people are probably using windows7-64 bit.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by GooberToo ( 74388 )

      First time I've ever seen Hulu actually work. The 64-bit Linux plugin works like a charm with Hulu!

    • I tried with this 64 bit Flash and Hulu works.

  • by Chrisq ( 894406 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @08:51AM (#33598422)
    I really don't think we should encourage this. Flashers are perverts, and that is all there is to it. Some well meaning people might think that giving them a square plugin (I assume they mean butt plug) will keep their mind off it for a while, but it will just lead to greater depravity.
  • Hulu works (Score:4, Informative)

    by motang ( 1266566 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @09:04AM (#33598528)
    With this new 64bit flash plugin hulu works via the browser no more need for the hulu desktop app.
  • Too Late (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ShOOf ( 201960 )

    Gnash works with youtube. Gnash development has picked up since Adobe dropped the 64bit support. And once you switch there is no reason to go back unless you enjoy your cpu melting and state of the art 0-days

    • by Andy Dodd ( 701 )

      Gnash doesn't work with Hulu...

    • Re:Too Late (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @12:04PM (#33600622) Journal

      Adobe really screwed the pooch here. If they intended to support 64 bit linux, why didn't they say so? Why simply drop the plugin and ignore the problem for so long? A simple "we're working on it" would have put a lot of people at ease.

      Gnash sounds really good now. I do enjoy the occasional flash based shmup though, so I'll have to see how well the new plugin works.

  • When will they use the common installer system? Most software is simply available through some repository, but Adobe has to be different. Why can VLC be installed from a repository while they are not able to do so?
    Tar.gz is not a good way. The manual dependency resolving is so outdated. The simple fact they made the same mistake again will cause me not to install it. The opensource version may not run as smoothly but it is easy to install.
    • do not want (Score:3, Interesting)

      by OrangeTide ( 124937 )

      I refuse to use any of the universal package systems out there because they are all junk. Each distro maintainer is free to create a package that wraps the .tar.gz if they choose. That is what Debian/Ubuntu and Arch do.

  • OMFG (Score:3, Informative)

    by DarwinSurvivor ( 1752106 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @10:02AM (#33599098)
    God I love Arch Linux
    yaourt -S flashplugin-prerelease

    I have never had fullscreen youtube even usable at 480 before, now I can run it fullscreen at 1080p and the controls are perfectly smooth and only using 70% CPU!!!

    I never though this day would come. *sniff*
  • Coincidence? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by dheltzel ( 558802 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @11:28AM (#33600094)
    That this is getting released so shortly after Gnash 0.8.8, which now plays all Youtube content ? I installed the latest Gnash on my 64 bit Linux and it works great. I don't think it's worth my effort to try this the Adobe version now.
  • by Eunuchswear ( 210685 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @01:56PM (#33602130) Journal

    Pity it's only x86-64.

    Guess that's the problem with closed source.

  • Version number here (Score:3, Informative)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Thursday September 16, 2010 @05:16PM (#33604620)

    Why Adobe chooses to not even say what version number they are releasing is beyond understanding....

    But it is:

    I was running an older Linux 64bit (I think it was 64 bit) version inside flashplayer-plugin- and it worked, but it crashed/froze often, requiring me to restart Firefox every few days (or more). This new version seems to run fine, but only time will tell if it is reliable.

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