Ubuntu "Karmic Koala" RC Hits the Streets With Windows 7 483
oranghutan writes "Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system, Ubuntu 9.10, on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7. 'The upcoming Canonical release, which is code-named Karmic Koala, is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS. The development release on Thursday pushed the OS one step closer to final release, which is due on Oct. 29, according to the company's release schedule Web page. An image of the OS is available for download on Ubuntu's Web site. Test versions of Karmic Koala RC available for download include the server, desktop and netbook versions.'"
Please use the torrents (Score:4, Funny)
I live for high upload:download ratios
Re:Please use the torrents (Score:5, Funny)
Good for you, but I have to use up as much of virginmedia.com bandwidth as possible, since they turned evil whilst I was an ADSL customer.
Oh look, netbook remix. I haven't tried that one yet.
Need hardware! (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm looking forward to the official 9.10 release, but I really want some new hardware to run it on! Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route. Providers like system76 [system76.com] have some OK offerings, but they are on the pricey side. I wish I had a wide selection of hardware without having to pay the Microsoft tax!
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So pay the tax then file for a refund. There's a bajillion articles on the entartubes that describe the process of getting a refund for the bundled 'doze license. (No, I'm not going to search for you.)
Notebook without Windows (Score:3, Interesting)
Shitty Summary and Article (Score:5, Interesting)
News would entail what's new in this version.
Non news is a "hey guys Ubuntu has something new too" cry for attention amidst the Win 7 release.
Ubuntu is great and all, but this article is crap.
It barely gets around to mentioning:
"Built on the latest Linux 2.6.31.1 kernel, Ubuntu 9.10 offers faster boot times, an improved user interface and programming tools for easier software development, according to Canonical."
Re:Shitty Summary and Article (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview [ubuntu.com]
Re:Shitty Summary and Article (Score:4, Informative)
gggreat!!! (Score:2, Funny)
This should please all three linux desktop users.
Win7 wtf?! (Score:2, Interesting)
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I am confused about Ubuntu's naming scheme. ..., 10.5, 10.6. ..., 2009.xx. Right? What's the "Karmic Koala" part mean?
- Windows is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 (actually 6.1).
- Mac OS is 10.1, 10.2,
- Ubuntu is Year.month so it goes 2004.xx, 2005.xx,
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The code name for the release is simply alphabetical.
The last release was J. The current release is K. The next one will be L.
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Uh yeah, I clearly remember my Windows 4 and my Windows 5 boxes...
Re:Win7 wtf?! (Score:5, Informative)
Right click on "My Computer" and select "Properties". You will see the Windows version number there. That option is available on such operating systems as Windows 95 (4.00.95), Windows 98 (4.10.1998), Windows EffingSucks (4.90.3000), Windows 2000 (5.0), Windows XP (5.1), Windows 2003 (5.2), Windows Fistsya (6.0) and the curiously named Windows Seven (6.1).
So, unless you are a die-hard Applista or just started using computers this year, you probably do remember your Windows 4 and 5 boxes very well.
Re:Win7 wtf?! (Score:5, Insightful)
(Your typical Joe or Jane Q. Public will give-up at this point, and buy a Windoze PC-compatible or Apple Mac instead.)
You're comparing apples and oranges. Your typical Joe and Jane Q Public couldn't figure out which version of Windows or OS X to install on their machines either, nor will they know whether to install Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate. The problem is the "having to install part", not the names.
Buy Linux preinstalled and it won't overtax your brain. People will have made reasonable choices for you.
Besides, none of those installations lock you in; it's one command to upgrade to any other one.
Re:Win7 wtf?! (Score:5, Funny)
It's a Texas cow. Everything's bigger in Texas. Including our codebase, minimum requirements, load times, release cycles and bug lists(!)
Re:Win7 wtf?! (Score:4, Informative)
No actually it's more like this (two forks):
MS-DOS + Windows desktop: 1, 2, 3.x, 4.x (95/98/Me) - terminated
NT line: 3.1, 4.x, 5.x (2000/XP), 6.x (Vista), Windows 7
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You are correct, good sir! Maybe I'll buy Windows 7 instead! I guess you could say Vista was not an LTS release! ha HA!
Still some very important stuff to fix (Score:2)
However, the list of great features planned for this release is amazing! Ubuntu is no longer "Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme", it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.
Re:Still some very important stuff to fix (Score:5, Informative)
This bug was reported on Oct 15th, and fixed on Oct 22nd. What more do you want?
Of course if you're a Microsoft slave, you can wait for a bug to be fixed "when we get around to it", which will probably be in SP1 in 4-6 months or so - depending on how buggy THIS Windows version is... (sometimes they have to release the SP faster, like with Vista).
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[...] If not, you could try to contact MS support and talk about the problem, whether that is free or not depends.
I'm guessing that you've never tried to navigate their spaghetti-like phone-tree with its loops, spirals, double-backs and yes dead ends where they will hang up on you for following the wrong rabbit trail with no way to go back. That is the most frustrating, useless, upsetting, making me feel like hurting somebody a lot, afternoon that I ever spent. Oh, and the pound key that all phone systems use to go back one level? That works under some menus.
Re:Still some very important stuff to fix (Score:4, Informative)
I'm looking forward to officially-supported VDPAU [wikipedia.org]. Even with a moderately beefy Athlon X2, playback's a little jerky for 720p AVCHD movies from my camcorder. With some hacking and PPAs, I can get VDPAU working with 9.04, and it's much better - CPU usage massively reduced, yet smooth playback.
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Would have been better (Score:2)
Re:Would have been better (Score:5, Informative)
The 2009-10-29 release date was chosen over 8 months ago [ubuntu.com], several months before Microsoft announced their release date [microsoft.com] for Windows 7.
Re:Would have been better (Score:5, Informative)
No, I don't think it would have made a difference when they released it. Canonical sticks to a strict release cycle every April and October and they won't alter their release date just to try and compete with other operating systems. They're appealing to a fairly different user base, anyway.
People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.
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If your going to do that why not just run a real OS?
Seems solid so far (Score:4, Informative)
I upgraded a week or so back, seems solid so far. PulseAudio seems to be properly configured now, haven't had weird audio routing issues yet at least...
Boot is supposed to be faster, haven't clocked it so I'm not sure it actually is. But then again my desktop has been through several dist upgrades already.
But if you have an ICE1712 / Envy24 (M-Audio Delta) based pro sound card stay away, it's currently broken. Fortunately I boot to windows for my music making needs... ;)
What Do the Status Colors Mean? (Score:2)
The KarmicReleaseSchedule [ubuntu.com] shows that 10/22/2009 was the scheduled date for releasing a Release Candidate, so the project is on schedule. But what do the colors in the Status column mean? Just escalating "hotness" (excitement) as the final release date approaches?
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What I want to know is, what the heck does a RC build mean to these guys? The (only) RC is dropped one week ahead of the final release? That's not really enough time to even get feedback from the test userbase, much less actually do anything about the bugs that might show up. So, are we to assume that the RC is basically just a marketing stunt?
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AFAICT, Canonical has always released on time (perhaps one exception, late by only a week or two out of 6 months). The RC gives them a chance to delay without being a total surprise, though the don't (hardly) ever exercise the option. And their actual releases don't seem any buggier than any other distro's, in fact a lot less buggy, and never a showstopper, and quickly (and regularly) followed by automated bugfix updates.
So what that says to me is their release process is very rigorous. And that they use th
Re:What Do the Status Colors Mean? (Score:5, Informative)
The (only) RC is dropped one week ahead of the final release? That's not really enough time to even get feedback from the test userbase, much less actually do anything about the bugs that might show up. So, are we to assume that the RC is basically just a marketing stunt?
Considering that is not the purpose of a release candidate, of course not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle [wikipedia.org]
The term release candidate (RC) refers to a version with potential to be a final product, ready to release unless fatal bugs emerge. In this stage of product stabilization (read QA cycle), all product features have been designed, coded and tested through one or more Beta cycles with no known showstopper-class bug.
RC just means no new code will be added at that point, so no new testing is needed, as all the code/features in it by that point were tested in development/alpha/beta stages.
There of course could be bugs in the RC, but that is true of the final release just the same.
These days an RC is used more to get users outside of your normal beta testers to use it, and make sure it works with the basics and didn't majorly break anything else that used to work in previous versions.
Assuming that happens, the RC is basically renamed to release.
Commercial software calls it RTM (release to manufacturer) which burns and presses the final CD/DVDs, and for open source that is the day the ISO is copied to the main download mirrors.
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No, it means that it is an actual RC ("release candidate"). Now, true, some notable large software companies use "release candidate" as just a later beta, but that's
Code Name Runner-up (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Code Name Runner-up (Score:5, Funny)
"Karmic Koala" is great, but I would like to believe that "All-knowing Frog" was a close second.
*sigh* Again, stop with the self-reference!
I'm still waiting for (Score:2, Funny)
Zoonotic Zebra
Causality is wrong (Score:5, Funny)
Ubuntu's fall release date has been set in stone for years, the RC release date has been up since before Windows 7's release date was announced.
Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around. Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.
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Or, just maybe, the fall is a great time to release a new OS to cash in on all the holiday period new PC sales?
Do you seriously think that Microsoft even considers Ubuntu a competitor for the desktop at this point?
To act like there actually is something to minimize at this point in time is facetious.
I dearly wish there was something to minimize, but let's not kid ourselves.
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Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area. Stable hardware support that actually works.
Now that really causes "derisive laughter to the point of choking".
Prove me wrong, Linux users.
Why don't you prove your statements on usability and compatibility? Oh, that's right, you just repeat Microsoft marketing claims.
Re:Causality is wrong (Score:4, Interesting)
re: MS and Linux (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, sure ... MS keeps an eye on Linux to see how far popular distros have come. In fact, they *even* have some developers working for them who like and use Linux.
But we've heard for well over a decade now that "any time now", Linux is going to have its day and "threaten Windows for dominance" .... and it never really happens.
I think it's rather idealistic to believe Linux can somehow overtake a gigantic commercial endeavor to make and market an operating system, when in reality, a BIG part of such a batt
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But we've heard for well over a decade now that "any time now", Linux is going to have its day and "threaten Windows for dominance" .... and it never really happens.
It has happened on servers. People replace windows servers with linux servers all the time and find they are faster, more stable, and easier to manage. A lot of places will blindly stick to windows because that's what they know but that has always happened. A lot of old companies blindly stick to os/390, VMS, and other legacy stuff too.
Re:Causality is wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
With a modest amount of money, you can put together a new system that provides a slick, fully-supported experience using Ubuntu Linux as the OS.
The problem is that, like Windows, Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything. It simply doesn't work in all cases.
Apple solved this problem by packaging a very limited, controlled set of hardware with their OS. If a computer vendor does that with a Linux distro, they can provide a similar "it just works" kind of experience.
For example, if you buy a Dell system with Ubuntu preinstalled, I think you will find it will "just work".
On the other hand, if you install Ubuntu on your system made from parts that you might think "ought to just work", you're gambling.
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For example, if you buy a Dell system with Ubuntu preinstalled, I think you will find it will "just work".
Exactly.. if you buy hardware from a vendor that has official Linux support, you'd get a system that "just works" Whereas, when you buy hardware from Sun, Apple, or IBM, you get a system that "works really damn well".
I think you're missing the point. For a fair comparison, you need to buy a computer that comes with Ubuntu pre-installed as the only OS and the OS the computer was designed and tested to work with. It can have Windows as an optional install after the fact or something, but buying a machine where Dell has done a little bit of testing to try to expand it into the Linux using market, but are still primarily selling that hardware as a Windows box does not cut it.
Even Microsoft does SAN management better than Linux, and they don't have strong ties to any particular storage vendor.
Here's where you're wrong. Microsoft doesn't do S
Re:Causality is wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
d) This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.
Prove me wrong, Linux users.
Wow, that was a really convoluted way to get your post modded up. It was an OK post (that I don't wholly agree with) until you pulled out this old chestnut.
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To their credit, I think they recognized they blew it when they started the 100 Paper Cuts project. It was a good way of showing, to the those who had become recalcitrant about fixing problems that mattered to actual users and were focused on latest-and-greatest instead. Even then, there's some LaunchPad comments that could lead you to suspect that some people are a little t
Re:Causality is wrong (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's my take on Linux support: Not that long ago, I'd have to chase high and low to find any Linux compatible hardware and certain things like wireless cards was near impossible. These days I have no problems finding Linux-compatible hardware, even though not all or even most hardware is compatible with Linux. There's usually some well-supported official drivers in most categories instead of the "best of the reverse engneered" there used to be. I don't remember this machine having a kernel panic ever, though X did have an oops a month ago because I've upgraded to a beta KDE/X release.
If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux, it's media plugins and flash in particular. If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 when it is available [ajaxian.com] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after. *buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed, so should Firefox.
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So you are saying a OS that's so badly designed it needs virus scanner add-ons just to stop rogue files trashing it is better than one that just works?
Windows isn't ready for mass deployment and never has been. Ubuntu isn't perfect but it is better than windows in most of the ways that count.
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Having spent the majority of the evening trying to get sound on and intel hda board to work properly in Ubuntu 9.04, I will say that the burden of proof is no entirely on the GP troll.
Netbook version (Score:2)
Re:Netbook version (Score:4, Informative)
The U2400 is either a low power Core 2 Duo CPU from Intel [intel.com] or a Nano CPU from VIA [x86-guide.com]. The Mini 5100 uses an Atom N280 [intel.com], which is a different processor entirely. While all three are supported quite well by Linux, none of them do much for wireless networking.
What you probably have is an HP un2400 [hp.com] (USB ID 03f0:201d), which uses the Qualcomm GOBI chipset. You'll need the qcserial [cateee.net] module to run it, and that is included in the 2.6.31 kernel which ships with Ubuntu 9.10. I can't speak for how easy it will be to use, but support is in the kernel and will be installed by default if you upgrade to The Koala.
transparent system tray in awn (Score:4, Interesting)
I've got hardy on my thinkpad at the moment. I'm considering upgrading just because the new gtk in karmic enables a transparent system tray so AWN will finally look right [blogspot.com].
I never liked having two horizontal bars or panels on my screen, especially on a 14" widescreen. too much wasted real estate. especially when applications have a title bar. then add fire fox book mark bar, menus and address bar and that doesn't leave a lot of real estate!
AWN with google chrome makes the most of it.
Need screen space? Move stuff to the bottom panel. (Score:3, Interesting)
I never liked having two horizontal bars or panels on my screen, especially on a 14" widescreen.
Here's how I solved that in Ubuntu Jaunty on my 9" laptop:
how long until (Score:2)
the next Crunchbang release, then?
Win 7 vs Linux (Score:5, Funny)
Linus gives his verdict [itc.ua]
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My deepest apologies, should have tagged that NSFW, depending on who you work for of course.
Re:Win 7 vs Linux (Score:5, Funny)
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up [neowin.net]
For people who don't read backwards R and backwards N containing languages..
RC for only a week? (Score:3, Insightful)
Isn't the point of a release candidate to give people enough time time to make sure a product is stable and ready for prime time release, and to fix issues should they arise? Wouldn't an OS, with a whole slew of apps, require a bit mroe than a week for this? I mean, a release of Firefox is usually in RC for several weeks, if not months, before it goes from RC to official release.
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They have had Alphas since May, I figure 5-6 months is plenty of time to iron out the bugs.
Seems faster on my eee PC (Score:2)
The interface on my eee pc using ubuntu 9.04 was very slow, probably some issue with the graphic card driver. 9.10 works much better for me.
Re: Improved performance in Atom Netbooks (Score:4, Informative)
Thats because of the new Intel UXA driver... It also improved performance in my Acer Aspire One
Silly Microsoft! (Score:2)
Thinking they could steal Ubuntu's thunder! And Steve Ballmer, when asked about this, pretended not to know what Ubuntu was! As if Ubuntu isn't as well known around the world as Microsoft Windows!
Silly Steve!
Oh and silly Slashdot, the only place anyone would even consider tying these two release stories together!
SeaLab 2021 (Score:3, Funny)
"It's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain"
I'm all for Linux but who comes up with these names ??
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Re:SeaLab 2021 (Score:5, Insightful)
Koala was to put focus on an endangered species. Karmic is your fairly uncommon adjective that Ubuntu can "coup" so you can google for "karmic *whatever your problem is*" and get relevant results that don't belong to a version from two years ago or every other page that happened to use the numbers 09.10. It works much, much better than Debian that I came from where they typically used stable, testing and unstable which left a ton of junk that doesn't apply to my stable all over the net. Yeah it's corny but it works extremely well.
It's ok (Score:5, Funny)
Re:It's ok (Score:4, Funny)
Ubuntu? Windows? What's the difference? (Score:3, Interesting)
Okay I've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.
My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to. The laptop's got an XP licence but we couldn't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux, so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly. And it worked out fine: Install was simple and quick and the system looked good. The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it wasn't too hard.
However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the most hideous features of Windows! The despicable "My Documents" folder structure was the first and most obvious. Say what you well about Vista, at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible. Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing. If I wanted that I'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop. Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default. FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON!!!
Why why WHY are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so? It may be Linux and it may be free, but if it looks and acts like Windows then it's still an ugly mess. Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux, but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.
If a company knocks off another company's product we accuse them of stealing ideas. If someone releases some new program (open source or not) that replicates existing functionality we say "well why use yours when I can just use the original?" So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows? To me that'd be the height of hypocrisy.
Mod me down, I don't care. I had to get this off my chest...
Re:Ubuntu? Windows? What's the difference? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:4, Informative)
no one cares
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:5, Funny)
Stop living vicariously through other modders.
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:5, Insightful)
I would imagine lots of folks with jobs do. I get it, Centos is not big with the unemployed living in Mom's basement demographic, but trust me outside that locked door there is a whole world with many people that do care about it.
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:4, Interesting)
As someone with a real job who uses Linux there (not as much as we used to unfortunately), I switched most of my servers to Ubuntu from CentOS a while back.
I'll admit that lots of people are still using CentOS (and I'll never mock a distro's users - though I'm on Linux Mint now, I used to use Gentoo at home, and before that I was on Slackware - 'nuff said), but even in the corporate world it seems like the push is towards Ubuntu.
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I get the advantages of ubuntu on the desktop but on there server why would you want to switch from CentOS to Ubuntu?
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:5, Informative)
Why not? The community support is better, there's a server version with the GUI stripped out that works well, and for what we're using it for (one MySQL database server, a webserver, a Zabbix performance monitoring server for other systems, and an email gateway) Ubuntu works just as well. Our desktops and most of our servers are Windows (not by my choice, but I have to live with that) so about all we're using Linux for is a few disjointed systems.
At the time I was migrating all my systems to virtual machines anyways to make management easier (and I've always had hiccups with live-migrating machines - regardless of os - from physical to virtual), so I decided when I rebuilt them to go with Ubuntu instead.
We are running OpenBSD on some of the other systems (DNS and a lot of our routers) but the main network admin handles those systems (I've used FreeBSD some but have never even tried OpenBSD).
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:4, Informative)
You lost us at the wording "Why not?"
No professional ever changes for the sake of changing.
The community support is far from better, it's UBUNTU. Redhat/CentOS has a world of following. Besides, how many Oracle or install on Ubuntu by support-release?
Ubuntu hasn't proven itself as anything better than another way to do what Red Hat/CentOS has done in the server world.
Our entire data center is Red Hat/CentOS, with XEN virtualization and clustering. While I'm a Debian/Gentoo person, I've noticed the merits of using something industry-accepted when in a publically traded company.
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I work in government rather than a publicly traded company, but as I said I was redoing the installs anyways as a result of moving to a virtual environment, so it's not like I was changing for the sake of changing.
Also, if you'll notice in my post, I never mention Oracle or any other application that doesn't work well on Ubuntu. The simple fact of the matter is that for what I'm using it for, Ubuntu works fine. Bandying about doom and gloom predictions isn't hampering my little Ubuntu VM's which have been
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fwiw, ive used linux on the desktop for about 3 years but have used windows 7 regularly since the RC build was released to the public several months agoo (because i built a new rig, wanted to game...but not pay for the OS)
its actually quite stable, being basically a big upgrade on vista. in the RC the sleep settings didnt work very well, but that has been resolved in the Pro release. i was surprised to wake my computer up one morning, find that it had downloaded updates in the middle of the night and put it
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i was surprised to wake my computer up one morning, find that it had downloaded updates in the middle of the night and put itself back to sleep while saving the wordpad doc i had left open with some notes in it.
See... that's just creepy to me.
Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too. (Score:5, Funny)
* Braces self for negative modpoints *
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No, I not joking, I seriously use it.
I know a lot of folks who use it, too :). CentOS is great for organizations that use RHEL but don't need paid support on every server instance. I'm a Debian/Ubuntu guy myself, but to each their own.
/me goes back to testing the Ubuntu 9.10 RC now...
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What's the point? And, look who's coming to dinner (Score:2, Insightful)
No - the RC is usually nearly identical to the actual release. Only if there is something totally disastrous (eats your data, leaves dirty socks in the hall, sleeps with your girlfriend/boyfriend/cat/dog) would the final release be delayed.
You joke, but almost every Ubuntu release I can think of has shipped with major problems that never get fixed. Once it "shipped", despite few reasons to do so (this isn't a commercial software release), major bugs sit ignored. For example, one release had numerous bu
Re:What's the point? And, look who's coming to din (Score:3, Informative)
Don't get me started about the issues with the Intel GMA drivers. "8.04LTS" worked fine on a number of systems, and 9.x caused never-ending forum postings from users wondering why the hell they couldn't get X going.
Yep, that is well known, and yes it is mostly fixed in 9.10.
Re:What's the point? And, look who's coming to din (Score:4, Informative)
"8.04LTS" worked fine on a number of systems, and 9.x caused never-ending forum postings from users wondering why the hell they couldn't get X going.
You know what LTS means, right? Long Term Support. As in, if it doesn't work in the newest version, but does in the older you're fine. Cause the older version is good for another couple of years of updates. the Ubuntu team has been very upfront about LTS releases being for "stability" and other releases being for new features. So yeah, if there is a "feature" that does not work right, and prevents you from upgrading, wait for the next LTS release, which will be very much inside the support window.
The MS mentality of everyone must always run the newest version of everything or else you won't be protected or get new features is pure crap. That doesn't have to happen in open source, when they aren't trying to force you to constantly upgrade to help their revenue cycle.
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Statistical monitoring "service"... what are you talking about? You are asked whether or not you want to participate in Popularity Contest, which is just data collection about what apps you use the most.
The "one release" with the screen dimming bug was 8.10... short memory?
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It's pretty simple. Ubuntu is based on Debian and Debian has the best package manager around.
Not only does Debian have the best package manager around but they also strive to have very
comprehensive binary package repositories. So even someone with obscure interests may find
that what they want is "already there".
Take the "bleeding edge" quality off of Ubuntu and you've basically got Debian.
Call it "the turtle's son"...
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A huge Koala has trashed my hall with a load of dirty socks, and is now fucking my girlfriend!
Well the Koala is getting sloppy seconds, but I think your girlfriend was starting to enjoy the Jackalope.
Oh wait, what are we talking about? This is slashdot. You don't HAVE a girlfriend...
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Wait, *runs linux* or *runs on linux*?
If your girlfriend *runs on linux*, have you considered distributing the code and schematics under an open license? It would really be a boon to the rest of the slashdot community.
*By the way -- don't try to release your flesh-and-blood girlfriend under an open license without getting her permission first. Sometimes the downstream modifications are nice, but most of the time they just result in either new dependencies or a borked
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I call bs. If you'd said he'd shot up the place and fled, I'd have believed you.
Koala: noun. A large bear, found in China. Eats, shoots, and leaves.
Oh heck (Score:4, Funny)
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Don't worry (Score:3, Informative)
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I ran KDE for about 15 minutes before being so annoyed with not being able to do things the way I was used to in gnome that I switched back to gnome.
There. Fixed it for you.
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Try NFS or CIFS, or even SFTP. KIO supports FISH, too.
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I must be getting old. The parent has been modded as informative, but to me it just looks like the poster had a stroke as they were typing in the message.
I hope the recovery goes well, either way!