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ruphus13 writes "The Mobile and Netbook space already has several Open Source OS providers. Android has been making its way into netbooks, and Moblin, LiMo and Ubuntu are also alternatives for OSes on netbooks and mobile handhelds. Now, Novell has also joined the fray, but rather than porting openSuSE, they have teamed up with Intel to get OEMs to use Moblin for their mobile devices. From the article: 'With the other tools and benefits that Moblin offers OEMs and developers, it's really a rather smart approach that could potentially yield a better netbook experience (for developers and consumers), maximize development resources, and produce quality software in minimal time. I don't think Novell is eschewing SUSE, but in its current form, it's not as suited for netbooks as it is systems like the HP ProBooks. Paired with Moblin's netbook-centric bent and coming from a desktop/server market (rather than a true mobile device background), bringing a SUSE/Moblin system to netbooks has as much potential (if not more) for success as an Android adaptation does.'"
Moblin? (Score:1, Offtopic)
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Well, if you are gonna try to escape, they won't let you get to any Windows.
Re:Moblin? (Score:4, Funny)
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Can someone tell me what's wrong with Slashdot's front page? I want my low-bandwidth, dialup-friendly version back but despite changing my preference multiple times, I'm getting some frakked-up yellow-and-white monstrosity.
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Is it not more like MOBile LINux?
Great a notebook with a broken package manager (Score:1)
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Although opensuse is a very nice distro it still suffers from package manager issues (in 11.1) they should change to apt and they would have a rocking distro...
apt blah blah. rpm sucks. dependency hell....blah blah.
rpm based distros today have pretty good package managers which have nothing to envy apt.
openSUSE has a neat package manager since 11.0. Issues were in 10.1 times, 3 years ago. Today you have a neat zypper, YaST using the same engine, PackageKit integration, etc.
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openSUSE has a neat package manager since 11.0. Issues were in 10.1 times, 3 years ago. Today you have a neat zypper, YaST using the same engine, PackageKit integration, etc.
Out of curiosity, does that mean that stuff like
Re:Great a notebook with a broken package manager (Score:4, Informative)
This is handled in Fedora with the use of the yum extension package-cleanup and using one of the "leaf-node" options.
PackageKit does this in recent versions of Fedora, see this link [fedoraproject.org] for information on Fedora 11 font and mime-type installation.
Not sure about this, seems like the previous point?
Obsoletes: is a feature of RPM since way-back
Again, since way back whenever it has been possible to run scriptlets in RPM specfiles.
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Most of the tasks which you list below can be handled by Fedora-originated, distro-agnostic tools such as YUM or PackageKit. (Well, YUM is only distro-agnostic to the extent that it must be an RPM-based distro).
Thanks for answering. I haven't used an RPM based distribution since Suse 7.2, so I was somewhat behind.
PackageKit does this in recent versions of Fedora, see this link [fedoraproject.org] for information on Fedora 11 font and mime-type installation.
Not sure about this, seems like the previous point?
From reading the link, I think you misunderstood me. Probably my fault... but cute integration feature on that page :) Sort of like missing-command but for file types and fonts.
What I meant that when installing a package, there are often related packages. A stupid example: I install a compiler. Now, having a compiler without its standard library is technically possible, but probably not what the user wan
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Sounds like you might be interested in SuSE's patterns [opensuse.org]. Supposedly PackageKit will be doing this stuff in the near future too.
I think you might be able to solve that problem with YUM by defining your own groups in a comp file for your own repository (or spin of Fedora) (see this link [baseurl.org] and also search "man yum.conf" for group_package_types) and choosing to make your hypothetical standard library a "Default" package type.
Not quite as simple as .deb Suggests, Enhances and Recommends but still do-able and Packag
PackageKit "catalogs" (Score:2)
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This is handled in Fedora with the use of the yum extension package-cleanup and using one of the "leaf-node" options.
Just out of curiosity, does it actually track which packages were automatically installed, like apt, or does it simply remove all the seemingly-unused dependencies, even the ones specifically requested by the user?
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yum install yum-utils
package-cleanup --leaves
I don't think so, but as crush mentioned PackageKit will sometimes suggest packages to install.
Sure.
No, RPM package installation is completely non-interactive by design.
rpm+yum+PackageKit (Score:2)
Moblin has about as much Fedora roots as it has SUSE roots and the package management does come from Fedora, not from SUSE, AFAICT.
What's up with SUSE? (Score:4, Interesting)
It's interesting to follow Novell's moves regarding SUSE; first, they lay off lots of SUSE developers, now they are just "skipping" it in favor of Moblin. I'd be surprised if there was no hard feelings regarding the decision among the SUSE team.
Re:What's up with SUSE? (Score:4, Insightful)
Nevermind my earlier comment - Infoworld article states:
Novell began assigning its Linux developers to work on Moblin several months ago
So basically, we will be seeing some SUSE-ization of Moblin. Which is good, because IIRC Moblin has pretty immature/shallow userspace so far.
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So basically, we will be seeing some SUSE-ization of Moblin.
It's GNU/SuSE/Moblin/Linux you insensitive clod!
Are you kidding? Of course it's bad news for SuSE (Score:3, Insightful)
Every time Novell gets involved with UNIX, it spells doom for the latter. I worked for Novell when it purchased USL and UNIX. We lamented the faith that inevitably had to befall UNIX because we knew how UNIX-averse and arrogant the upper echelons were. There were people back then in charge of Novell who actually believed they would build competitive Internet run on IPX - I swear I am not joking.
I don't believe much has changed. To a lot of those MBA types all those technologies are just meangless abbreviations and acronyms, and as long as they can rearrange letters on the table and get something that looks catchy to some marketing drone, they think they've got a winner.
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and as long as they can rearrange letters on the table and get something that looks catchy to some marketing drone, they think they've got a winner.
Next time you see them, tell them from me that they should go with BetaMax! ;)
Ok can someone explain? (Score:2)
What do I need to read and where do I need to go to get android running on one of those old oneTs? Or whatever - it's a testing ground, sold to a very generic audience. I would love to be able to run an ubuntu distro on there, although android sounds worth trying on a netbook.
One thing about netbooks though is they are half way between a phone and a computer, so they shouldn't need to be so complicated - both in interface design and in expectations. Another is this reliance on google docs or youtube and oth