Fedora 10 Released 211
ekimd writes "Fedora 10, aka 'Cambridge,' was released today. Some of the major features include: 'wireless connection sharing enables ad hoc network sharing, better setup and use of printers through improved management tools, virtualization storage provisioning for local and remote connections now simplified, SecTool is a new security audit and intrusion detection system.' Versions of major software include: Gnome 2.24, Eclipse 3.4 and RPM 4.6. A features list can be found here."
Reader Nate2 suggests LinuxFormat's detailed look at the new release, and adds a few more details about the software it contains: the release includes "a new graphical boot-up sequence, OpenOffice.org 3, many improvements to sound support via PulseAudio and other updates."
Mirrors are still unavailable (Score:3, Informative)
10:40 am Eastern
Re:The big question is. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The big question is. (Score:5, Informative)
You can install the rpmfusion-nonfree repo's signing keys and update the binary blobs via yum. However RPMfusion is not included in the release by default and you'll have to do this by yourself.
AFAIK distributing "evil" codecs are against Fedora's policy so they don't do that. But that doesn't prevent anyone else from doing it.
Re:The big question is. (Score:5, Informative)
Does it come with easy access to the "restricted" repositories?
Well it's certainly easier now since all the "restricted" repositories are now in one place - RPM Fusion [rpmfusion.org]. So you just install the rpmfusion rpm and then you get access to all the goodies. Not too sure how this is presented GUI-wise though.
Re:Mirrors are still unavailable (Score:3, Informative)
Portland State seems to be working. I'm just about done downloading a minimal set of packages.
Re:Distro comparison? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The big question is. (Score:2, Informative)
Well it's certainly easier now since all the "restricted" repositories are now in one place - RPM Fusion [rpmfusion.org].
Except for the package libdvdcss, which could not be included into RPM Fusion and is still sitting in Livna.
Fast boot (Score:3, Informative)
Re:They are using RPM 4.6.0 release candidate (Score:2, Informative)
The cool thing about Fedora is that it is cutting edge innovative stuff. I use RHEL or CENTOS on servers, but on my Thinkpad, which isn't even my primary laptop, I just love tossing on each Fedora release as soon as it comes out and tweaking it until the next version comes out. It is a fun way to geek out and learn. If there are bugs or glitches, it is often challenging and fun to workout and troubleshoot. The cool part is that much of Fedora leads into RHEL releases so as a Linux consultant I not only can have hands on knowledge of parts that are later put in RHEL, but I sometimes have knowledge about why something wasn't included. I love Red Hat and I love bleeding edge so I love Fedora. If you are about cutting edge software, if you are about being part of a distribution that gives back to the community as a whole, if you want to learn a distribution that could help get you a job, if you are about user based support, tips and documentation, Fedora is for you. If you are all about what the current fad is, maybe not so much, although it has a huge following.
Re:Breaking the law is always easy (Score:5, Informative)
I believe GP was referring to the fact that in the US, DVD playback software can't be shipped on a box without a license from the DVDCCA. Thank you so much for the DMCA, Congress.
Re:RHEL6 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Will it fix the most notorious Linux bug?? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Xen slowly being discarded ? (Score:3, Informative)
I've been following the fedora-xen mailing list and they would still like to put xen back in, but not until it's in the upstream kernel. As stated at the F9 release, they feel it is counterproductive to maintain 2 different kernels, which I can't disagree with them on. The latest news I heard is that they were hoping the 3.4 release of xen to have pv_ops dom0 in the kernel. Wether or not that it's Linus' kernel, they haven't really stated. If fedora is waiting for pv_ops dom0 to make it into Linus' kernel, then I would have to agree that xen will slowly dissapear and KVM will be the way to go. I see that as an uphill battle for the xen team since kvm is already in the kernel.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization [fedoraproject.org] for more information on f10 virtualization.
Re:The big question is. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Different Audience (Score:2, Informative)
A distro for tweakers that ships Gnome by default? Gasp!
There's a KDE spin too and has been for the last two releases at least. Just take your pick.
Re:But does it run on .... shit that does not work (Score:5, Informative)
Problem is when Fedora first jumped off everyone tried it then formed an opinion based on 5 years ago. Most of these opinions spider across slashdot by people who haven't installed fedora since F2. When i was running Fedora a simple yum update command would finish in about 3-5 seconds. I'm also using a p4/2gb.
From the yum FAQ:
How is the speed of yum compared to APT-RPM?
yum automatically checks the repository every time you perform a command, except when run in shell mode, while APT only checks it when you run 'apt-get update' manually. This causes it to appear slower than it is. If you want yum to run from cache instead of checking the repositories, run 'yum -C '. See the man page for details.
yum now uses sqlite for its back-end database by default. This results in an edge in speed over older versions of yum. Beginning with Fedora Core 4, yum contains significant improvements that make it faster and more capable than older versions.
In general to posters. If you haven't installed an OS in 5 years would you mind not commenting on it unless you state when you used it. People out there get the impression nobody fixed yum when it was fixed 7-8 versions ago.
Re:Distro comparison? (Score:1, Informative)
Minor technical problem. In rpm versions, .fc8 is newer than .f10. So for the rpm tags we re-defined "c" from "Core" to "collection", as in this package is part of the Fedora collection 8.
Re:But does it run on .... shit that does not work (Score:2, Informative)
I've never really understood why Yum performance is really all that make or break important. I for one spend more time using the software installed than installing it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I don't spend all day every day installing and removing software.
If I use OpenOffice a lot and notice that it's significantly slower on one distro in particular, that would be more of a deciding factor than how long it took to install OpenOffice.