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Fedora 10 Released 211

ekimd writes "Fedora 10, aka 'Cambridge,' was released today. Some of the major features include: 'wireless connection sharing enables ad hoc network sharing, better setup and use of printers through improved management tools, virtualization storage provisioning for local and remote connections now simplified, SecTool is a new security audit and intrusion detection system.' Versions of major software include: Gnome 2.24, Eclipse 3.4 and RPM 4.6. A features list can be found here." Reader Nate2 suggests LinuxFormat's detailed look at the new release, and adds a few more details about the software it contains: the release includes "a new graphical boot-up sequence, 3, many improvements to sound support via PulseAudio and other updates."
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Fedora 10 Released

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  • by Deputy Doodah ( 745441 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @11:42AM (#25886623)
    Not (really) released just yet; none of the mirrors are working.
    10:40 am Eastern
  • by guardia ( 579095 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @11:45AM (#25886663) Homepage
    RPM Fusion is getting pretty darn good [] Just one RPM to install manually, and you can get all the "evil" stuff very easily... plus, haven't tested it yet, but the new hooks in Totem should make the process pretty much automatic.
  • by gzipped_tar ( 1151931 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @11:45AM (#25886671) Journal

    You can install the rpmfusion-nonfree repo's signing keys and update the binary blobs via yum. However RPMfusion is not included in the release by default and you'll have to do this by yourself.

    AFAIK distributing "evil" codecs are against Fedora's policy so they don't do that. But that doesn't prevent anyone else from doing it.

  • by mowall ( 865642 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @11:45AM (#25886673)

    Does it come with easy access to the "restricted" repositories?

    Well it's certainly easier now since all the "restricted" repositories are now in one place - RPM Fusion []. So you just install the rpmfusion rpm and then you get access to all the goodies. Not too sure how this is presented GUI-wise though.

  • by Chang ( 2714 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @11:49AM (#25886741)

    Portland State seems to be working. I'm just about done downloading a minimal set of packages.

  • by Sir_Lewk ( 967686 ) <> on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @12:07PM (#25886973)
    Just a little pet peeve, but it's just F10, not FC10. ie, Fedora 10, not Fedora Core 10. The "Core" was dropped quite a while ago.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @12:11PM (#25887033)

    Well it's certainly easier now since all the "restricted" repositories are now in one place - RPM Fusion [].

    Except for the package libdvdcss, which could not be included into RPM Fusion and is still sitting in Livna.

  • Fast boot (Score:3, Informative)

    by dfdashh ( 1060546 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @12:45PM (#25887549)
    The dev team did away with rhgb (replaced by plymouth []) and used readahead to achieve faster (30 seconds was the target) boot times (details here []). Plymouth relies on kernel modesetting support to get its graphical goodness, which unfortunately is only supported well on ATI chips.
  • by jackspenn ( 682188 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @12:51PM (#25887619)

    The cool thing about Fedora is that it is cutting edge innovative stuff. I use RHEL or CENTOS on servers, but on my Thinkpad, which isn't even my primary laptop, I just love tossing on each Fedora release as soon as it comes out and tweaking it until the next version comes out. It is a fun way to geek out and learn. If there are bugs or glitches, it is often challenging and fun to workout and troubleshoot. The cool part is that much of Fedora leads into RHEL releases so as a Linux consultant I not only can have hands on knowledge of parts that are later put in RHEL, but I sometimes have knowledge about why something wasn't included. I love Red Hat and I love bleeding edge so I love Fedora. If you are about cutting edge software, if you are about being part of a distribution that gives back to the community as a whole, if you want to learn a distribution that could help get you a job, if you are about user based support, tips and documentation, Fedora is for you. If you are all about what the current fad is, maybe not so much, although it has a huge following.

  • by Amazing Quantum Man ( 458715 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @12:52PM (#25887645) Homepage

    I believe GP was referring to the fact that in the US, DVD playback software can't be shipped on a box without a license from the DVDCCA. Thank you so much for the DMCA, Congress.

  • Re:RHEL6 (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @01:27PM (#25888125)
    According to Red Hat's presentation at SC08 last week, Enterprise 6 will be base on Fedora 11.
  • by BoxRec ( 532280 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @01:27PM (#25888131) Homepage
    Your confused, there is no such bug in Linux and hasn't ever been (or at least since 1997 when I first used it). There is/was a Windows bug/feature in which uptime is stored as a DWORD so the maximum value can only be 4294967295 or 47.9 days. Maybe this causes some Windows applications to bring down the whole system ?
  • by jsolan ( 1014825 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @01:42PM (#25888395)
    Xen virtualization is still strong, fedora just isn't porting the kernel patches upstream anymore. I believe Novell has a 2.6.27 kernel with xen patches. I would think it to be possible to pull down the kernel source from Fedora, build the config, then pull in suse kernel source, run make oldconfig, and compile your own kernel for fedora using the suse sources. I've never tried it and fully understand that this is an unacceptable option for most fedora users.

    I've been following the fedora-xen mailing list and they would still like to put xen back in, but not until it's in the upstream kernel. As stated at the F9 release, they feel it is counterproductive to maintain 2 different kernels, which I can't disagree with them on. The latest news I heard is that they were hoping the 3.4 release of xen to have pv_ops dom0 in the kernel. Wether or not that it's Linus' kernel, they haven't really stated. If fedora is waiting for pv_ops dom0 to make it into Linus' kernel, then I would have to agree that xen will slowly dissapear and KVM will be the way to go. I see that as an uphill battle for the xen team since kvm is already in the kernel. [] for more information on f10 virtualization.
  • by mowall ( 865642 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @01:47PM (#25888509)
    Seems you can enable rpm-fusion during the installation so you're up and running straight away. Very nice. This blog post [] provides useful details.
  • by mowall ( 865642 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @01:50PM (#25888551)

    A distro for tweakers that ships Gnome by default? Gasp!

    There's a KDE spin too and has been for the last two releases at least. Just take your pick.

  • by Pros_n_Cons ( 535669 ) on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @02:01PM (#25888715)
    How long ago was this "previous yum experience" the last several years have seen vast improvements in yum.

    Problem is when Fedora first jumped off everyone tried it then formed an opinion based on 5 years ago. Most of these opinions spider across slashdot by people who haven't installed fedora since F2. When i was running Fedora a simple yum update command would finish in about 3-5 seconds. I'm also using a p4/2gb.

    From the yum FAQ:
    How is the speed of yum compared to APT-RPM?

    yum automatically checks the repository every time you perform a command, except when run in shell mode, while APT only checks it when you run 'apt-get update' manually. This causes it to appear slower than it is. If you want yum to run from cache instead of checking the repositories, run 'yum -C '. See the man page for details.

    yum now uses sqlite for its back-end database by default. This results in an edge in speed over older versions of yum. Beginning with Fedora Core 4, yum contains significant improvements that make it faster and more capable than older versions.

    In general to posters. If you haven't installed an OS in 5 years would you mind not commenting on it unless you state when you used it. People out there get the impression nobody fixed yum when it was fixed 7-8 versions ago.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @02:10PM (#25888855)

    Minor technical problem. In rpm versions, .fc8 is newer than .f10. So for the rpm tags we re-defined "c" from "Core" to "collection", as in this package is part of the Fedora collection 8.

  • by NotBorg ( 829820 ) * on Tuesday November 25, 2008 @03:05PM (#25889629)

    I've never really understood why Yum performance is really all that make or break important. I for one spend more time using the software installed than installing it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I don't spend all day every day installing and removing software.

    If I use OpenOffice a lot and notice that it's significantly slower on one distro in particular, that would be more of a deciding factor than how long it took to install OpenOffice.

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