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GNOME 2.24 Released 163

thhamm writes "The GNOME community hopes to make our users happy with many new features and improvements, as well as the huge number of bug fixes that are shipped in this latest GNOME release! Well. What else to say. I am happy." Notably, this release is also the occasion for the announcement of videoconferencing app Ekiga's 3.0 release.
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GNOME 2.24 Released

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  • Hmmmmm?


  • I know typos in summaries and headlines are the norm, but have we really got to the point where the dept. gag has them also?

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      He's referring to Ekiga's tendency to fire little bits of rock and gravel at people. It's a feature.

  • by Cthefuture ( 665326 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:35PM (#25142205)

    Isn't it weird how developers (myself included) consider it a good thing that they fixed a whole bunch of bugs?

    Personally I know it feels good to fix bugs because it feels like you're making the product perfect and somehow that feels like "development". However, the reality is that it would be better to have no bugs in the first place.

    • by fractic ( 1178341 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:39PM (#25142273)

      However, the reality is that it would be better to have no bugs in the first place.

      Sadly the reality is that it's just too hard to write such complicated software without bugs.

      • by wanderingknight ( 1103573 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:43PM (#25142349)
        Or downright impossible. I believe that's one of the things FOSS is based on ;-)
        • Re: (Score:1, Offtopic)

          by Yetihehe ( 971185 )
          Some people can't even write summaries or headlines (and now even "from the xxx dept.") without errors ;)
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        I just wish GNOME would fix the damn panels to keep them from rearranging the applets. That bug has been there since pretty much the very beginning of the GNOME project and they have "fixed" it many times but it is never really fixed. They have done things like introduce the "lock" feature that locks an applet into place. All that does is make it even more annoying because you then have to unlock them to put them back where they were before the panel mangled them.

        Especially if you get a crash, freeze, or

        • Same thing happens in KDE, for me, and I've NEVER had GNOME do this.

        • Show them how it's done!
        • by temcat ( 873475 )

          This can be partly mitigated using the Launcher List applet aka quicklounge. That way, at least your launchers won't rearrange themselves when they feel like it (and you can lock the whole applet). As an added bonus, you can drag and drop launchers (also from the menu) with the left mouse button.

      • by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:59PM (#25142663) Homepage

        Not impossible, but quite likely you'd maybe hit Gnome 1.0 in these days after 10+ years of development. And everybody else would be using the betas/unstable versions because they're soooo much faster and more featureful despite the odd bug. In fact, the FLOSS market seems to be going after exactly its own pace - live on the bleeding edge? You can do that. Stay with the ultra-stabile? You can do that and so the bug level is pretty much what you want it to be. In short, most people wouldn't want the bugfree version if one existed. It's too extreme in the "of these three things, pick any two" department.

      • by MojoMagic ( 669271 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @10:07PM (#25146263)
        As a software developer I feel confident in saying this:

        If your software "doesn't have bugs", it either doesn't do much or you just aren't looking hard enough.

        (I'm not pointing any fingers...)
    • by HTH NE1 ( 675604 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:51PM (#25142501)

      Well, there's the theory that every program contains at least one bug and can therefore be reduced in size by at least one instruction. Iteratively then, every program can be reduced to a single instruction which doesn't work.

      • There's an obvious flaw in that theory. If a program contains a bug that doesn't mean that it's possible to fix that bug by removing an instruction. It's very likely that fixing the bug would require adding more instructions.
        • Its just a bug. I fixed it by removing a letter from the theory. Voila! Now it's a simple spelling problem, rather than a glaring logical fallacy.
        • by lahvak ( 69490 )

          Actually, the original saying, as I learned it sometimes in mid 80's, did not have the word "therefore", it was just a simple conjunction.

          Also, the conclusion is obviously correct. I can easily replace any program by a single NOP instruction, which will not do what the program was supposed to do, and therefore will be buggy. Except for programs that are supposed to do nothing, you would have to use a different instruction for those.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by knothead99 ( 33644 )

      It's just not feasible to write software without bugs. In fact, Jeff Atwood would claim you're an amateur developer until you realize that everything you write sucks. Go read his post on the subject: []

      • I realize that. That is why I included myself. The question was rhetorical and I was just commenting on the psychological aspects of it.

        • Ahh. I didn't read it that way. I do agree that it feels great to squash bugs and see the outstanding issues closed.

    • However, the reality is that it would be better to have no bugs in the first place.

      "Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien."
      ("The best [the perfect] is the enemy of the good.")

      - Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique (1764)

      Sometimes, things have to be "good enough" or else nothing gets accomplished.

  • I would like to know from those who have test driven this new release, whether I can copy a PDF URL address link, paste it into the appropriate PDF application, and have the application open the file.

    Is this possible? In earlier versions, one had to download the PDF file, then point the application to it...a nonstarter to me!

    Just note that I handle PDF documents all day.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by ReinoutS ( 1919 )
      Just press Alt+F2 and paste in the URL. Evince, Gnome's document viewer, will open it nicely for you.
  • Good! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Sasayaki ( 1096761 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2008 @04:51PM (#25142495)


    Now when can I expect this in my Intrepid Ibex repositories, mmm?

    Mandatory puns:

    "Glad to see Linux really putting it's best foot forward in the GUI department."

    "The new Gnome is a feet of software engineering."

    "Maybe I'll revert from Kubuntu to Ubuntu, dip my toe in and see what it's like."

    "I hope the new version doesn't have a much bigger footprint."

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It looks like the Exchange 2007/MAPI Connector we've all been waiting for isn't in this release.

    The road map shows it's planned for the Gnome 2.26 release.

    RoadMap Link -

  • and going straight to 3.0?
  • Tabbed browsing... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by sdac ( 882526 )
    It took six months for them to implement tabbed browsing? What the hell? Isn't that just another widget in GTK+?
  • Xfce (Score:1, Redundant)

    by Sp4c3 C4d3t ( 607082 )
    Switched to Xfce over a year ago and never looked back. I can get all the same functionality, while maintaining the ability to control certain aspects of my computer. GNOME is just too bloated and is going in the wrong direction. If Xfce can clone the functionality and do it with less resources, there is something wrong with GNOME.
  • Whoever tagged this 'bsd' needs to wise up. Gnome developers don't give a frak about BSD.
    • Gnome developers don't give a frak about BSD.

      Really? The core GNOME developers may not develop on, or principally for, the BSDs but they are pretty receptive to patches from the ports and package maintainers. Since the release of GNOME 2.0, the code has certainly got more portable across different Unix like operating systems, which is quite remarkable as there's far more features that rely on OS specific implementations of things like Bluetooth. (Freedesktop initiatives have certainly helped).

  • by Yfrwlf ( 998822 ) on Thursday September 25, 2008 @09:58AM (#25150689)
    Too bad they don't support some standardization with packages, so that any normal user can easily download and install the new software. That would require them helping out the Burgdorf Packaging API perhaps, or some other system which worked to standardize packages. We're tired of being tied up, waiting for our distro of choice to compile it for us, we want cross-distro binary packages. kthnx.

We gave you an atomic bomb, what do you want, mermaids? -- I. I. Rabi to the Atomic Energy Commission