OpenSUSE 11.0 Released 301
Nate D writes "It's here: a new major release of Novell's community-supported distro is now available, and can be downloaded from the mirrors. Linux Format has a hands-on look at the new installer, SLAB menu and Compiz Fusion, and weighs up whether the distro can fight competition from Ubuntu and Fedora. Is this the start of a new era for SUSE?"
Torrent link (Score:5, Informative)
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.torrent [opensuse.org]
I think most of the downloads are being done selfishly via HTTP or FTP, as I've been in the swarm for almost 1h and the speeds are quite low, there are only 60 peers.
screen shots (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Probably not (Score:5, Informative)
For me, the only downside to SuSE is its slow and memory-inefficient package management system. It gets substantially better with each release, so it might be approaching the speed of apt-get on Ubuntu, but in 10.4, it wasn't quite there yet in performance. In features, however, it's definitely there
Re:All those discs? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Probably not (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Sure, why not. (Score:2, Informative)
If you're interested in running a non-KDE desktop, have you considered Xubuntu [xubuntu.org]? It's the Ubuntu variant with the lighter-weight Xfce desktop. I run it on a 600Mhz Pentium III laptop with 128MB of RAM, and it works quite well (be sure to grab the "alternate install" disk if you're running with as little RAM as I am).
I had no issues with the non-standard desktop components on my laptop working out-of-the-box, but of course YMMV here. Wireless, sound, etc.
If Xfce is not light enough, you can always install fluxbox, wmaker, etc, all available from the offical apt repositories.
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Re:Probably not (Score:2, Informative)
recently I have moved to all Sata Devices DVD, burner , and HDD's all of them installed flawlessly on opensuse 10.3 . Not to mention 11 Alpha and RC .
I am more than positive this would also work with fedora , ubuntu etc. And Im not talking about hooking them up on that cheap a$$ Jmicron crap either. They run with ICH(X) chips or nforce fine.
The funny thing is When I tried a Vista 64 Ultimate installation on the same box , I couldnt get it installed , I found out through evga support that with a sata DVD Drive you need an integrated Vista SP1
Just goes to show how little you know. So whats buggier ?
Re:New Era? (Score:2, Informative)
Novell SuSE is the commercial OS that Novell sells while openSuSE is the community edition. Both brought to you by...you guessed it, Novell.
http://www.opensuse.org/ [opensuse.org]
openSuSE is the test bed for new packages and configuration. Once vetted, those changes are moved upstream into Novell SuSE proper.
This is exactly the same way Fedora and RedHat work.
Re:why do you need a firewall (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Probably not (Score:2, Informative)
To amplify a little on what you said, what matters for desktop use is:
My experience with desktop use has been:
And before twenty people jump down my throat screaming that one of these distros really does all the things I'm talking about, please note the word "well." For example, FreeBSD's ports and packages are intended to do 2 well; it's just that in my experience there were many cases where it failed, probably because there just aren't that many people spending as many hours on packaging desktop apps for FreeBSD as there are for Ubuntu. Also note that I'm only commenting on the desktop here. E.g., I run vanilla Debian now on my server, and I like it just fine.
Re:Probably not (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Probably not (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Sure, why not. (Score:3, Informative)
Basically all I use my laptop for is running NX to my home machine, so a light fast small desktop is the best solution.
On the compatibility side, I do have to run ndiswrapper to make my Linksys PCMCIA WiFi work, but once it is in, KNetworkManager takes care of all the complicated stuff.
Re:New Era? (Score:3, Informative)
Article gets at least three things wrong (Score:3, Informative)
2. The Microsoft pact hasn't alienated any of the community that matters. There are fundamentalists that gripe and whine and spit about every intellectual property issue that they *perceive* reduces openness. And there are people who write code. There isn't much overlap at all between the coder and the fundamentalist - so there whining and spitting should just be takes as the meaningless noise that it is.
3. Yast is *extremely* modular and not in the least bit monolithic - one just has to look at the Yast packages to know that. It even has multiple front-ends. This makes as much charge as the people who accuse Evolution of being monolithic (it a highly modular app that consists mostly of cooperating components). Another Yast plus is that it works and coverts almost all configuration issues right down to certificate management. That makes SuSE / openSUSE the only distro with a comprehensive management tool.
Re:Probably not (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I will not (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Probably not -- compiz (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Probably not (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not dissing Debian for their approach, but it is quite different to Ubuntu's even though they use the same package management.
Re:Probably not -- compiz (Score:3, Informative)
If you take a look in