Hardy Heron Alpha 4 Released 272
LarryBoy writes "Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) alpha 4 was released Friday and Ars Technica has a look at what's new in the latest builds of Hardy Heron. 'Although many of the significant architectural features like PulseAudio and GIO are still in transitional stages and aren't fully functional yet, Ubuntu 8.04 alpha 4 is still very impressive. I'm a big fan of D-Bus and I'm very pleased to see it being adopted throughout the entire desktop stack in core components.'"
ndiswrapper (Score:4, Interesting)
But 8.04, it's bloody nice! I downloaded it this afternoon for a play
Yet to be impressed (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:ndiswrapper (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:PulseAudio works nicely in Fedora 8 (Score:4, Interesting)
Congratulations! (Score:5, Interesting)
-A Longtime Gentoo User
What about KDE integration? (Score:2, Interesting)
However with the fiasco with Suse, Micorosoft, patents,
Kde 4.0 supposed to be a rapid improvement and Kubuntu is supposed to be alot more polished and integrated as Ubuntu according to comnpany officials as planned by Hardy. I wonder if this is going to be the case?
I want a choice of Gnome but still have everything just work well. I found KDE in ubuntu to be not integrated and rather a poor implementation compared to the polished version of Gnome.
Also Dbus is not friendly on laptops as the event model prevents many models from going to a power saving mode wasting battery power. I wonder if this has been resolved.
Re:ndiswrapper (Score:4, Interesting)
To be honest, I've never needed to touch it at all.
I've been pretty lucky with wifi support (every wifi device I've bought has Linux drivers even though I didnt check before hand) but other hardware also works fine.
I consider ndiswrapper a really dirty hack which is required in certain circumstances.
I would never tell anyone to use it.
Re:Congratulations! (Score:3, Interesting)
It's not to say that Ubuntu is better then Gentoo or anything else. It's just that I think my day to day goals have changed. Where as before I had more time to tinker and play, Gentoo was so much fun. But now I've switched jobs and life is getting in the way, I need to get "work" done and pass on the tinkering.
After switching to Ubuntu, it's nice to just have little things "work". Not like a Mac, but better then Gentoo. Opening attachments in thunderbird prompt the *right* app. yes, I know I can fix it by opening up some files and preferences but it's all done without me having to mess with it.
Ubuntu allows me to get work done on linux, Gentoo forced me to work on linux.
--Ajay
Re:ndiswrapper (Score:3, Interesting)
Is the wifi problem in Ubuntu driver related or UI related?
Its a well known fact that wifi manufacturers really hate giving away any clues so making wifi drivers is always a struggle.
A *lot* of them are currently supported though and more are on the way.
If its UI related then there arent too many excuses.
However its probably best if they did it right the first time so if they need more time, I say give it to them.
Re:ndiswrapper (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:PulseAudio works nicely in Fedora 8 (Score:4, Interesting)
Re: ndiswrapper (Score:5, Interesting)
Not that a D-Bus operating system couldn't possibly be good, but all I really want, quite honestly, is a good Unix system. More D-Bus at the system level is, for me, rather an argument to switch my laptop over to Debian instead, and then if Debian becomes GNU/DBus as well, I guess I'll switch to FreeBSD instead.
Re: ndiswrapper (Score:5, Interesting)
D-Bus may not be the answer to everything, individual technologies rarely are, and it's not as if D-Bus was even the only user-level software bus commonly used in Linux, but it has interesting potential. Not sure how well it currently plays with clustering technology like MOSIX, or grid technology, but given the effort being poured into developing user-space software buses precisely for those, I imagine that's just a matter of time.
Personally, I'd rather have more localized limited-purpose buses in any case where a general-purpose solution is slower and/or heavier. The code can't be that maintenance-intensive and too much abstraction must eventually pessimize the resulting code. Moore's Law is worthless if code gets slower at the same rate systems get faster. Nonetheless, any general-purpose abstract IPC that is easier to implement against than traditional mechanisms (RPC, CORBA, Unix sockets, System V messages, etc) must surely be beneficial - even if those end up being the mechanisms used under the hood. In fact, the more of those implemented and the better you could switch data between them, the more portable such a software bus becomes as well as the more optimal - to a point. The whole trend in programming is towards such pluggable solutions, it's surprising IPC is so far behind almost every other mechanism out there, and unless there are specific technological reasons to not use a given generic mechanisms (such as performance costs), you're already using so many that are not following some standard or other that it's absurd to discriminate against one just because it's not specifically POSIX.
Re:Getting tired of Ubuntu (Score:3, Interesting)
Yay, another sound daemon... (Score:3, Interesting)