SCO Relies On IBM-donated Servers With Groklaw

Technician writes "It appears that SCO and Groklaw have the exact same tie to IBM: the ibiblio service. 'An eagle-eyed Groklaw ninja, sk43, has spotted an ftp site where you can get binary copies of Linux libraries needed by SCO's OpenServer and UnixWare customers who use lxrun. But you can't get the source code from that sco.com ftp site. SCO directs their customers to .... sunsite.unc.edu. Why bless my stars, sunsite.unc.edu is the old name for what is now ibiblio!'"

It's mostly about media corruption and Forbes etc.

[Anonymous Coward]

There have been many strange articles in the media, for example in this forbes article they report that IBM may have destroyed evidence [forbes.com]. However that evidence was what SCO used as a basis for starting the case, and so SCO "must" have had it to begin with. Forbes and other similar media outlets report large amounts of SCO material without comment.

The question has been raised: where are they getting this material and why are the reporting it as it is. The primary place where that's been raised has been Groklaw [groklaw.net] and the accusation has been that parts of the media are actively backing SCO even against all possible evidence. Now SCO and those parts of the media have started an intimidation campaign against Groklaw both in court and in the media, along side attempts to by SCO's media friends to invade her privacy [informationweek.com]. This recent posting is showing the hypocrisy which is behind this campaign and it's media backers who use as accusations in court filings things that they themselves also do.

IBM - SCO case a mere drama?

[jkrise]

Let's remember that IBM is still the biggest 'Unix' vendor - AIX. IBM's association with Linux may be purely incidental. They still maintain BOTH branches - Linux and AIX in their offerings. The case with SCO could've been closed months ago... wonder whether IBM's taking the matter REALLY seriously.

How will this drama unfold? Given the parallel SCO - Novell case that'd be heard first, I guess it could appear Novell, not SCO holds copyrights... and SCO vs IBM gets dissolved.

Given the negative publicity surrounding the MS-Novell deal, it's going to look foolish if Novell suddenly sues IBM and shuts down other distros except SuSE.

Anyways, it now appears SCO is just a front for IBM.. or the other way round!

The "exact same" ties?

[Rogerborg]

Did IBM donate $50,000 to SCO via the IBM-chaired OSDL organization, as SCO alleges that they did with "Groklaw" (i.e. PJ)?

Or... are we still not allowed to talk about that part of SCO's allegations, or PJ's refusal to so much as discuss, let alone deny it, until she gets (quote) "lawyered up"?

Commence troll ratings in 5... 4... 3...

Re:The "exact same" ties?

[Anonymous Coward]

>>Did IBM donate $50,000 to SCO via the IBM-chaired OSDL organization, as SCO alleges that they did with "Groklaw" (i.e. PJ)?

I don't know. That's an unsubstantiated allegation made by the same group who claim to be "SCO" and that "mountains of 'UNIX'* code was found in Linux by their 'rocket scientist deep-divers'" so confidence in the truth of their assertions might be low.

On the other hand; we know that:

" SANTA CLARA Calif., Aug. 30, 2000 - Hewlett-Packard, Intel Corporation, IBM* and NEC Corporation today announced the Open Source Development Lab, the industry's first independent, non-profit lab for developers who are adding enterprise capabilities to Linux*. The four companies plan to provide significant equipment and funding to the lab over the next several years. Additional contributors and sponsors of the lab include Caldera, Dell, Linuxcare, LynuxWorks, Red Hat, SGI, SuSE, Turbolinux and VA Linux."

So we might surmise that OSDL has simply made a check out to the smelly hippies at Groklaw in the exact amount that Caldera (dba/ the SCO Group) paid in membership dues.

Therefore SCO is covertly funding Groklaw in its campaign to dissect SCO's nuisance lawsuits and bogus claims (and there are more of them than those that are brought against IBM).

Q.E.D.

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there's more

[hebertrich]

didnt beleive it .. so i did it myself ..
ir.sco.com is the investors relations website for SCO
well ok .. so lest see :

ric@ric ~ $ host ir.sco.com
ir.sco.com is an alias for cald.client.shareholder.com.
cald.client.shareholder.com is an alias for webcenter360.shareholder.com.
webcenter360.shareholder.com has address 170.224.5.57
ric@ric ~ $ whois 170.224.5.57

OrgName: IBM
OrgID: IBM-1
Address: 3039 Cornwallis Road
City: Research Triangle Park
StateProv: NC
PostalCode: 27709-2195
Country: US

So .. IBM is hosting the SCO's investors relations
website ..

errr .. conspiracy theories are surfacing that
IBM actually owns SCO :)

ROFL

Re:IBM - SCO case a mere drama?

[sumdumass]

I agree. Settling this once and for all will give IBM so much more leverage then anything. It also clears a shadow over their product and it set the bar appropriately high to discourage someone else decides form making similar claims. I doubt IBM really cares about SCO as much as they do running their product line and making money from it.