Kernel.org Moves to Oregon 114
Bryce writes "Looks like the main kernel.org machine has
moved
to the Oregon State University Open Source Lab.
"Last night, Peter Anvin took master.kernel.org (hera) down and handed it off to his friend, Javier. This morning, Javier flew it up here to Corvallis in his Cessna Skylane. This is the first time the OSL has had a server hand-delivered by plane, and so we were giddy as schoolgirls." Kees Cook, the senior IT guy at OSDL helped them get it installed and configured."
Flying Penguin (Score:5, Funny)
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Landed in a Beaver Marsh. (Score:1)
Will the beavers knaw on the the cables?
What will happen at the bottom of the beaver pond when penguin meets beaver?
Cool. (Score:1)
Re:Cool. (Score:2, Funny)
Crash (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Crash (Score:2, Insightful)
Seems like there's been an awful lot of servers flying around in planes lately. First Sun over Dell and now the Holy Kernal is fleeing California. Could there be more to this than meets the eye? What if these servers have their own agenda? Were the "giddy" geeks the victims of mechanistic mind meddling? Could the servers be dispersing as a "pretakeover" precaution? Could they be preparing for the Great Crash? Could the Holy Kernal have been installed ON TOP of the Mozilla boxes for a reason? Was the Sun ser
Re:Crash (Score:2)
Re:Crash (Score:1)
Woe to the poor bastard that breaks the landing gear struts on a vintage Skylane.
"oops we're overloaded! *watches as the plane starts squatting down at the haunches"
"not to worry we'll get upgrades" *breaks out a set of floats*
*watches as the Cessna does a good imitation of Titanic sinking into the water tailfirst*
Slow news day? (Score:1, Insightful)
Wow. (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
You must be new around here.
Re:Wow. (Score:2)
Next article, "Bill Gates opens a refigerator!"
Re:Wow. (Score:1)
Turns out the fridge runs linux!
Server moved. News at 11. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:1)
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:1, Funny)
I'm surprised you missed it! Not to mention the dupe a week later.
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:5, Interesting)
I would love to see the rejected stories. Slashdot should publish rejected stories via a voluntary feed, and let us (the readership) choose what is important and interesting or not. Obviously it would be vulnerable to spamming and trolling, but both could largely be taken care of with a half decent bayesian filter.
Come on Taco - do it.
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:3, Interesting)
You miss the purpose of governmental elections (Score:2)
Isn't that the problem *anytime* *anything* is decided by letting everyone vote?
No.
In the case of the elections in republics (and to some extent in other democratic governmental forms) the purpose of elections is NOT to "tap the wisdom" of the population. It makes NO assumptions that the people are smart.
The purpose of the election is to find out how the civil war would come out, so you don't have to fight it.
It does
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:3, Interesting)
Because that system works soooo well [kuro5hin.org].
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:2, Insightful)
I would just like the ability to see all of the rejected submissions, with or without the ability for user comments. I have a general feeling that a lot of useful tech news is passed through Slashdot every day, but of course much of it gets rejected.
Re:Server moved. News at 11. (Score:1)
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Obl simpsons quote (Score:5, Funny)
*Both laugh as an airborne pengiun suddenly "flies" by*
Ballmer: Will you be donating that million dollars now sir?
Re:Obl simpsons quote (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Obl simpsons quote (Score:1)
the headline FTA: Seattle Children's Home receives $150,000 award from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
Re:Obl simpsons quote (Score:1)
But the question is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:But the question is... (Score:1)
Re:But the question is... (Score:2)
Unimpressive (Score:4, Informative)
However, kernel.org mentions that, as of April, it was being served from "quad Opteron servers, each with 24 GB of RAM and 10 TB of disk." Bandwidth shows that they're routinely pushing almost 300Mbps of traffic.
The photos [osuosl.org] show a single, unimpressive 2U machine. Can someone clarify exactly what was moved over, and why?
Re:Unimpressive (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, this is the machine that acts as the "master" in terms of it replicates out to zeus1 and zeus2. The reason it was moved was that hera was hosted behind a T1 and the OSL offered to provide backup services. Its just a 2U box and its not the entire kernel.org
Of course! (Score:5, Funny)
Aren't all
Re:Of course! (Score:1)
Anyway, for those who don't get what the big deal is - this just shows more of the recent immigration of tech (especially open source) to Oregon in the last few years. Most nota
Re: Of course! (Score:2)
> Then again, what do you expect from a bunch of flannel-wearing, pot-smoking, heroin-junkie hippies?
Don't lumberjacks [wikipedia.org] wear flannel shirts?
Re: Of course! (Score:2)
*scritch*scritch*scritch*
Except for this itchy shirt!
^.^
Re: Of course! ... must ... continue (Score:1)
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Personal bathing? (Score:1)
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Oregon Trail (Score:4, Funny)
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Heh (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Heh (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Heh (Score:2)
Re:Heh (Score:1)
uh... (Score:1)
Re:Heh (Score:1)
Too many eggs in one basket (Score:3, Insightful)
So, we've got master.kernel.org along with what looks like an impressive part of mozilla.org... what else is going in there?
Re:Too many eggs in one basket (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Too many eggs in one basket (Score:1)
Magic smoke and mirrors.
KFG
Re:Too many eggs in one basket (Score:2)
Most notably:
Debian
Gentoo
Freenode.net
Xiph.org
Drupal
Although, at least with the bigger projects, I don't think that any of them have all their eggs in the OSL basket.
strange route? (Score:2)
I work at an Internet2 connected organization.
www.kernel.org still get's routed over our regular commercial internet backbone. I expected it to go through I2.
But when I tracerouted master.kernel.org it went over I2.
How many interfaces with different IP addresses does this thing have?
Re:strange route? (Score:5, Informative)
www.kernel.org is comprised of two insanely beefy boxes (see www.kernel.org for the specs). master.k.o is just a 2U 3Ware box where things are built and shoved at the front-end "beefy boxes".
master.k.o should be connected via I2 and www.kernel.org should not (as far as I know they don't have a path to Internet2 out of the ISC facilities).
Slow Day? (Score:1, Insightful)
Why move from California to Oregon? (Score:4, Funny)
Q: How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Six. One to turn the bulb, one for support, and four to relate to the experience.
Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Five. One to change the bulb and four more to chase off the Californians who have come up to relate to the experience.
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So what it's lame? At least it's on topic -- sort of. Shut up.
Re:Why move from California to Oregon? (Score:2)
Q. How many Californians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A. None. Californians screw in hot tubs.
Not quite (Score:2)
A: One. But the one can't be you.
Re:Why move from California to Oregon? (Score:1)
Not "exactly". Assuming partial sheets can be used along two edges, your figure is high by about 3/8 of a sheet.
Sweet (Score:2)
Re:Sweet (Score:2)
Bandwidth (Score:2)
Right in my backyard... (Score:1)
Worrying trend ... (Score:2)
Recently, a project I contribute to moved to OSL as well (Drupal.org [drupal.org]).
While free bandwidth is always good, I find that more and more projects being concentrated in a single site is not good.
I think they have Debian there too.
Suppose this place got hit by a volcano or an earthquake, then what?
Anyone knows what disaster recovery plan they have?
Re:Waste (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Waste (Score:2)
I'm not sure exactly why you take this so hard, but if you can articulate your objection in a slightly more coherent way, I'd be happy to address it more specifically.
Re:Waste (Score:3, Funny)
I don't know about that. 10 metres is less than a few thousand miles, and I know full well that it'd be faster to walk.
Re:Waste (Score:1)
Good luck fitting in, in Oregon.
B. A courier would take longer. There is no faster way of getting something less than a few thousand miles than flying it yourself.
UPS. $210. 10:00AM next morning.
C. Train? This is the United States. You can't just hop on a train and go somewhere. I don't know about Oregon, but I am over a hundred miles from the nearest Amtrack terminal.
Union Station, heart of downtown Portland
Re:Waste (Score:5, Informative)
UPS. $210. 10:00AM next morning.
UPS?! UPS?!!
There's no way I would every trust something that important to UPS - I'd expect to find the thing with a switchblade in it, as someone had to use the package in 'self-defense' or the box would otherwise be bashed and beaten. If I absolutely had to ship it, I'd use DHL (formerly Airborne Express).
Re:Waste (Score:1)
On the other hand, I've had Fedex deliver things (typically anything larger than a shoebox is a bad idea) with terrible results. Like the time they delivered a $1,200 200lb portable air conditioner that was labeled as clearly having to be delivered up three flights of stairs and all they had was a scrawny teenage girl who couldn't
Re:Waste (Score:2)
Just messing with you. I've actually never had a real problem with either, although UPS did drive over a package of mine once. However they were totally upfront with me and called immediately after it happened, and got my insurance check on the way quickly. (Actually as a result of the shipper overvaluing the merchandise, I
Re:Waste (Score:2)
That's a pretty generous definition of "portable"...
UPS, on the other hand, delivered
Back of the envelope. (Score:4, Interesting)
Now, I'm pretty sure there are a good few SUVs / pickups etc on the US market that do that sort of economy.
The economy of the Cessna looks even better when you consider it can take the shortest route (staying VFR and barring airspace restrictions) whereas the SUV has to 'dog-leg' around the road network to get where it wants to be. Plus the Skylane consumption is more or less constant. An SUV's consumption can be expected to spike when starting/stopping in traffic.
Sure, you could give it to a courier but I honestly can't think of a single one I would trust with an important server.
Re:Back of the envelope. (Score:1)
I've found the shortest route is usually IFR, even in VMC. You can usually go direct, or near direct, and just cancel when you have the destination in sight. Takes care of expeditious routing through those pesky class B's and allows you to cruise above 180 if you have the gear and the inclination.
But for a 20 mile hop, you're right - VFR.
trust (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:trust (Score:1)
I can think of a lot more ways to save a lot more gas in
Re:Waste (Score:2)