Server Makers Push Linux 100
Rob writes "The bi-annual LinuxWorld trade show is under way this week in San Francisco, and once
again the major platform makers are swearing their fealty to Linux and trying to figure
out any angle they can to use Linux as a lever to wrest sales away from their competition
and money out of their customer bases. The Linux market has largely proven itself (even if
it is still dwarfed by Windows and Unix), and now the major server makers are getting down
to the brass tacks of marketing as
well as broadening and deepening their support of Linux on their platforms." Also FYI, I will be attending the Slashdot BOF session on Wednesday and answering questions. I'm hoping to be able to show people a good demo of Slashdot in CSS!
CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! (Score:5, Interesting)
I still think that's the most impressive CSSification of slashdot because it uses the exact same HTML as this [csszengarden.com] and this [csszengarden.com] and this [csszengarden.com] and even this very different style [csszengarden.com]. Note that all of those are the exact same HTML page, only the style sheet changed.
If a CSS slashdot were that flexible, we could probably have PDA-friendly styles very easily.
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- Satan
Servers Might give Linux the Edge (Score:1)
Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge (Score:2, Informative)
My mother turned 60 last week, and she has been using Redhat just fine for over 3 years now. My time wasted supporting her PC problems has dropped to a single incident, which was when her ISP changed their dial-up number without notification (according to her).
I no longer have to clean out her spyware, fix virus problems, or any other crap my life was being wasted on when she used to use windows. And should anything require support, I can do it remotely as long as she can connect to the Net
Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, I'm not a grandmother. In fact I used to be a programmer. How about telling me what I'm supposed to do in Ubuntu when I install a new application, then there's no way to start it? I ran into that nice little problem twice just this morning. This is just one reason why Linux is just on my "fun box". I would never use it as is for anything important.
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Until then, there's always "apropos ", but it rather sucks.
Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge (Score:1)
Windows is INFINITELY EASIER for end-users than Linux ever has been and ever will be if the Linux crowd
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Funny, I manage to achieve all that with my mother's computer running Windows.
Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge (Score:3, Insightful)
your grandmother has to learn the things she wants to do anyway
and it is not harder to write a letter or email and to surf the web with linux than with windows
it might be a bit of trouble to install but i don't think your grandma will install windows by her self
but a windows sysadmin comes with his windows knowledge and thinks he knows how things are supposed to work
he may be able to learn or not
but it is not easy to bring a company with windows to use linux if they had to hire additional peo
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Fealty? (Score:3, Funny)
With highbrow language like that, Linux is going to acquire a reputation as the OS of snobs. That's not good.
I guess swearing fealty is better than opening a sealed OEM package though, you retain more of your rights.
Sweet... (Score:5, Funny)
Isn't it enough that we bitch and moan about how slashdot works now? Are you sure you want to be trolled in person?
Re: Windows Server Costs More Than a Server (Score:1)
Don't forget (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Don't forget (Score:5, Funny)
And the 50 first to ask a question shout out "FIRST POST!"
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NOW I have a reason to go... (Score:1)
I still do not believe, but I am willing to pay whatever fees just to see that!
Re:NOW I have a reason to go... (Score:1)
Whoa!
CSS (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:CSS (Score:5, Funny)
Not around here dude.
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If you view the source, there isn't a single table tag, it's all CSS (the main page, however comment pages, etc, have some tables). So, despite slashdot's appearance, I'm guessing the newer implementations based off the code are CSS anyways.
I use a Linux server... (Score:2, Interesting)
It's absolutely awesome, and 100% reliable.
But more than anything else, I don't have to worry about my shit getting hackified. Well, obviously there is always a chance. But, I know it's a helluva lot more secure than any Windows ISS server.
I know I'm not even a zit on the butt of the internet in terms of the stuff I s
Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:1)
So there! Nyah!
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Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:1)
BTW: Linux is Linux is Linux is Just the kernel, please use the word GNU instead.
Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:1)
Tools that come with most distributions may or may not provide full control / functionality, but a real sysadmin understands what these tools do, and can choose not to use the tools and do things manually if the tools cannot perform the necessary tasks. If necessary, a real sysadmin can write their own tools.
Automating redundant tasks enables real sysadmins to focus on more important and c
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Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:1)
That's a good point. Going from one distro to another is usually a PITA since all of the config files are in different places. And I have found most vendor-provided tools fairly lacking, and script things myself too.
Perhaps the only real use for these tools (not homegrown) is as part of the attempts to make the OSs more user-friendly for the average
Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:2)
The only way Mandrake emulates Windows in the look and feel of things, which you can completely rewrite in Configure your Desktop -> Look & Feel if you wish. As a server, it is powerful and sta
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In the end, I prefer some things to be automated. Not all things, not nothing. I like that one command will update the entire system,
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Well... To answer your question, the box has been up and running for about 3 years. But, I only use it as like a slave. That is, I remotely host some of my larger files from that box. And it's hidden on an obscure port. (My ISP blocks the usage of port 80.)
By all accounts, going through my logs... I've never had anything other than some people snooping around using their web browser to see if there are other pages to see... I've neve
Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:1)
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By the way, all Linux distributions running the same versions of software are going to be vulnerable to the same attacks. RPM based has nothing to do with it.
Please keep your packaging FUD to yourself.
smeat!
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Except that I don't own that server. I just host my site there.
I'm talking about what I feel cofortable running in my house.Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:2)
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Re:I use a Linux server... (Score:2, Funny)
I'm pretty sure that's it.
Erph (Score:5, Interesting)
What I mean is, I use Linux daily at work - a stripped-down workstation thin client platform that I maintain - and it's simple. I've had experience doing the same sort of thing with Windows 2000 (well, not Terminal Services style, but participating in a domain with roaming profiles and locked-down policies), and it was just a nightmare. But that said, Windows does have its high points. Usability isn't necessarily one of them, nor is interoperatbility/server reliabilitiy, but for many offices it does a bang-up job of getting stuff done.
I prefer to use the right tool for the job, and I think for this particular post, it's sort of a no-brainer that Linux/FreeBSD are the right tools for the job. Or, to put it in an OS War context, Linux/FreeBSD are perfect for the Big Iron, and somewhat adaptable to the Small Iron, but Windows tries and, generally, succeeds at the Small Iron.
Personally, I prefer FreeBSD, but according to Netcraft, it's just me.
The Summer of the Apocalypse (Score:5, Funny)
Then Apple switches to Intel processors.
Next, Apple comes out with a multi-button mouse.
Now you're trying to tell me Slashdot is FINALLY switching to CSS?
*runs to a fallout shelter stocked up with beans and bullets*
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In other news... GNU Hurd 1.0 is released.
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Duh!
Uhm... (Score:1)
Linux is "dwarfed by Unix"? Can someone explain how that works?
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At about $3.5 million for a 72 processor E25K from Sun, it takes a lot of dual processor Xeon sales to catch up.
According to IDC (http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS001 53905 [idc.com]) the revenue in Q1 2005 was about $4.2 billion each for Unix and Windows servers (the first time Windows has pulled even with Unix), and $1.2 billion for Linux server.
So the Unix and Windows markets in terms of server reven
Windows (Score:4, Funny)
will it be Internet Explorer 7 Complient?
Mahaha......
Sory my bad... had a moment...
It's about time (Score:2, Insightful)
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