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Mandriva Buys Assets from Lycoris 292

Posted by timothy from the churn-churn-churn dept.
ulteus writes "For months after the acquisition of Conectiva, Mandriva moves further with the following announcement: "Mandriva today announced an agreement to purchase several assets from Lycoris, a major North American Linux distribution for home users. As part of this agreement, Lycoris' founder and CEO Joseph Cheek is joining Mandriva to develop a new and advanced Linux desktop product.". This is exciting for all Mandriva and Lycoris users, but I'm wondering: who's next?"
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  • I see no problems with this (Score:5, Funny)

    by justforaday ( 560408 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:26PM (#12824881)
    I'm looking forward to having to explain why I have a CD labeled "Manlyca" laying around...
    • Well, you have to give them credit - about 2 years ago they were in bankruptcy, now they're swallowing competitors like guppies.

      I always did like Mandrake's desktop (mostly). I never used Lycoris, but what I've heard, their desktop was even better, so hopefully they'll be able to painlessly merge the greatest strengths of both of them (although we all know things don't always work out that way).

      I hope they decide to do business under the Lycoris trade name. "Mandriva" sounds like something a dentist would

  • Maybe consolidation is good (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FlyByPC ( 841016 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:27PM (#12824885) Homepage
    Perhaps what Linux needs to become competitive with Windows in the desktop-OS market is for several Red-Hat-like companies to come out with competing Linux desktop products. Once the way is paved (keeping it Open Source, of course), I think a critical mass will eventually make Linux or a similar Open Source project a no-brainer choice for the desktop.
    • Linux doesn't need consolidation as much as it just needs to address the existing usablility issues. I touched upon this in the Symphony OS story [slashdot.org], and I hope to get a new blog entry up on it in the next day or two.

      The long and short of it is:

      1. The packaging system is user-unfriendly.
      2. The locations of programs are user-unfriendly.
      3. The folder layout of Linux systems is user-unfriendly.
      4. The lack of a standard base of installed libraries is application (and thus user) unfriendly.

      If this can at least be solved at the distribution level, then we'll be good to go. But right now a given distribution means different things to different people depending on what packages are installed.

      (P.S. Speaking of my blog, I get a kick out of the fact that the story I submitted on my last entry is still pending. Since Saturday. Guess the editors just think it's cool to look at or something. :-P)

      • Re:Maybe consolidation is good (Score:4, Informative)

        by Coryoth ( 254751 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @01:03PM (#12825261) Homepage Journal
        1. The packaging system is user-unfriendly.

        It's actually pretty good at what it is - a means to package a diverse system that can be tailored to the user. Things like Smart [smartpm.org] (a Conectiva/Mandriva project even) and Autopackage [autopackage.org] help a lot. To get the packaging systems you want you need to fix #4, and I don't think that's likely to happen (at least not successfully).

        2. The locations of programs are user-unfriendly.

        Really? Any program that actually supports the freedesktop.org desktop entry file is readily accessible to the user unless they use some WM or DE that doesn't bother to use them - which means they've gone out of their way to complicate their lives. As for where the programs are stored on disk ... well, that doesn't really matter does it? You want a searchable tag/label based system, so why not consider the package database as such a label view - you can see all the programs on your system with ease through the "package label" view of your filesystem, does the physical location really matter that much to you?

        3. The folder layout of Linux systems is user-unfriendly.

        To some extent I agree, but we're dealing with legacy here... even OS X and windows have some odd folder locations and names carried over. Besides, there's always GoboLinux, which I presume you already know about.

        4. The lack of a standard base of installed libraries is application (and thus user) unfriendly.

        This is the big one really. If you want a fixed mandated core set of libraries that the user is forced to install... well, grab yourself a nice mandated controlled system like OS X, because Linux probably isn't what you're looking for. In theory you could just set up a distribution that has such a guaranteed base set of libraries, and in a sense some already exist - try Linspire, or Xandros. The catch is that people write applications for "Linux" not "Debian, stable" or "Linspire 3.1" or whatever. Given a random open source application it will make whatever assumptions about libraries it cares to - it's up to the packages to make sure those dependencies are met. FOSS applications tend to be coded against "whatever system the developer cared to use" rather than specific distributions and versions. Commercial developers maybe? Well they do have requirements - Oracle requires particular versions of Redhat in standard installs. Other commercial developers can do that if they like. Alternatively they could accept that the Linux world is a diverse world and restricting yourself to the one distribution that is guaranteed to have everything you want where you want it is a little limiting. You can always use Autopackage and handle the dependency issue elegantly in a way that's effectively invisible to the user.

        The fact is that different distributions are different. You seem to be asking for all (or most) of the distributions to agree on a firm fixed set of base libraries. Distributions are different competing companies often however - you may as well ask Apple and Microsoft to hammer out a combined base set of libraries that you can be guaranteed to get in both OS X and Windows. Maybe that's a good idea. Maybe CoreImage on Windows and DirectX on OS X is what you'd like to see. I'm not so sure it will happen though.

        Jedidiah.
        • Good points.

          Especially this one:

          "Alternatively they could accept that the Linux world is a diverse world and restricting yourself to the one distribution that is guaranteed to have everything you want where you want it is a little limiting."

          This basically brings up the basic point that you have a spectrum of users. Most users of (large) corporation machines do not (or at least should not) install software unapproved by IT. Users of small corporation machines and home users might. But if those users know

        • I have recently made the jump from Win98 to Mandriva 10.1 and it was a surprisingly pain free experience. I have installed other distros in the past and after a while ended up paving over it with Windows for one reason or another (generally one of the reasons above). This time I don't see any reason why I would go back. My system is far more stable, robust and dare I say easy to maintain that it was as a Windows based system. Granted that my geek quotient is somewhat high, but if you take into account t

      • "The folder layout of Linux systems is user-unfriendly"

        Don't you mean usr/friendly? (and also- no it's not, sit any joe schmoe user in front of a hierarchy of folder with bin, sbin, usr, local, etc and watch them get confused fast. That's why OSX hides these system files)

        • And watch Joe User - or even me, since I haven't bothered to analyze them all - look at the plethora of Windows folders under the Windows folders and get confused.

          Yes, finally, Windows XP hides those folders automatically (and I of course unhide them instantly since I'm not a dumbed down Windows moron who needs to be "protected" from his own system.)

          The bottom line is that whether you hide those directories or not, you still have them and any user confused by them should comprehend that he doesn't need to
        • Even under SunOS, there's no reason to venture into "the mess" unless you insist on doing so.
      • (P.S. Speaking of my blog, I get a kick out of the fact that the story I submitted on my last entry is still pending. Since Saturday. Guess the editors just think it's cool to look at or something. :-P)


        generally that means it's not anything urgent, and they are saving it for a slow news day.

      • > 1. The packaging system is user-unfriendly.

        This is utter hogwash. They are simple even in
        their console versions.

        > 2. The locations of programs are user-unfriendly.

        If a Unix app program is properly set up. THE LOCATION IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to the user.

        > 3. The folder layout of Linux systems is user-unfriendly.

        It's remarkably better than the alternatives.

        > 4. The lack of a standard base of installed libraries is application (and thus user) unfriendly.

        "application
      • 1. The packaging system is user-unfriendly.
        2. The locations of programs are user-unfriendly.
        3. The folder layout of Linux systems is user-unfriendly.
        4. The lack of a standard base of installed libraries is application (and thus user) unfriendly.

        What? These are "user" issues?

        In windows there are a dozen different installers and they do not all behave or interact well. Installing windows 2000 OOTB on a system and then trying to get their own visual studio installed on it once involved me spending HOURS onl
        • Go install VLC on say... SuSE. FEEL the pain and anguish of trying to install something and having the system reject it. Then FEEL the pain of trying to do all the updates through source compiles. FEEL the pain of tracking down every dependency. FEEL the pain of having the program not work even after you compile it. FEEL the frustration of having no menu icon for the program, and having no easy method for setting up a menu icon. FEEL the angst as you have to browse through thousands of little /bin programs
          • That is the pain I've gone through (and every user goes through) every time they try to install something outside of what the distribution provides.

            And this is why you are comparing apples to oranges. If the folks at ubuntu or mandrake or wherever would take the time to package it then it wouldn't be this mess it is.

            You want a fair comparison? OK let's pick any given package for windows of equivalent complexity - say, the gimp - and intall IT without any binaries. Whoops! We don't even have a compilery
      • Mod at will, but I think it's on-topic to make a shameless plug here for the distro project I'm a part of, GoboLinux [gobolinux.org], since the entire point of the distribution is to make the radical changes to Linux that we consider necessary for it to overcome the problems you listed.

        1. The packaging system is user-unfriendly.

        Yes, and that is because in regular distributions, you have a "list of packages and dependencies" and then the actual files scattered through the file system, and those are held together by a
    • Not really. For one reason: Who is this critical mass you talk about? Their are 4 generealized groups of PC users that are relivent to the linux world that we want:
      1.)Current Linux users, these guys are set and probibly wont go anywhere any time soon
      2.) Buisness class users that use windows
      3.) Educational users that use windows
      4.) Home users that use windows

      3 & 4 are typicaly the same, and are considered the "critical mass" since their are more in this group.

      The problem I see is not linux but the DE t
      • "To beat Microsoft in this arena, their needs to be more of a weaving between the DE and the kernal. I could be wrong and the only way this can happen is consolidation. This is my view, but most likely I am looking at things wrong."

        You are.

        The biggest security problem in Windows is that the desktop (AND the browser, AND the applications) have connections to the kernel (that's "kernel" BTW to be /. pedantic.)

        The last thing Linux (or Windows) needs is more interaction between the desktop and the kernel.

  • typo (Score:5, Informative)

    by ulteus ( 876292 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:27PM (#12824888) Homepage
    "For months" -> "Four months". Sorry!

  • What's so exciting about it? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:27PM (#12824890)
    I'm not sure that too much consolidation is good for the Linux market. I like the diversity available in the multitude of distros out there. Microsoft supports will probably argue that that is a weakness, but in reality it is one of Linux's greatest strengths ... something-for-everyone rather than one-size-fits-all.
    • As long as the code is open source, I doubt multiplicity will be a problem for Linux.
      • Yes ... nothing like a good fork to keep things interesting. And I agree, there will always be specialized Linuxes around for various purposes, I just wouldn't like to see any single company (Redhat or anyone else) come to dominate the desktop market.
    • And of course you were modded straight up. No reason, no facts, just an unsubstantiated opinion that the other zealots agree with.

      Hey mods, THIS IS NOT YOUR PRIVATE ECHO CHAMBER. Fucking retards.

    • Re:What's so exciting about it? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by toddbu ( 748790 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:42PM (#12825063)
      Diversity is a great thing, but don't discount the value of standards. People want stuff that they can count on, and if Linux is really going to compete against Windows and the Mac then there needs to be a big push down that path. My ideal world is that there are a couple really big Linux vendors who cooperate on standards, and then a bunch of small guys doing customization for those who want/need it. The recent XFree86 fiasco shows that even an entrenched "vendor" can be booted pretty quickly if the community feels that their actions are counterproductive to the benefit of all.

    • Oh, no... (Score:2, Funny)

      by solomonrex ( 848655 )
      I'm sorry, you're going to have to limit yourself to one of the other 10,000 distributions available.
    • I'm not sure that too much consolidation is good for the Linux market. I like the diversity available in the multitude of distros out there.

      What does Mandrake really gain from this deal anyway? Competition among Linux distros is limitless, so any increase in marketshare is a temporary shift that the market will correct over time. If Lycoris users wanted Mandrake, they would be using it already. Eliminating Lycoris will just create a new niche for a Lycoris clone to enter the market.

      Novell's purchase
      • I think there are different skills involved in distro integration (making sure things play well together) than there are in development of a particular software package. After all, people aren't going with Mandrake because it ships a better openoffice or a better kde, but rather hopefully because it ties things together well. I think the idea is that Joe Cheeks is really good at this, and simply ripping off his code from Lycoris wouldn't do them much good since many of the problems there might already hav
      • "Competition among Linux distros is limitless, so any increase in marketshare is a temporary shift that the market will correct over time. If Lycoris users wanted Mandrake, they would be using it already."

        It should be obvious to you what Mandrake gets from this. Mandrake gets more advanced work at making the Linux desktop compete with Windows. Lycoris and Xandros and Linspire are the three Linux distros that most compete FOR WINDOWS USERS. Acquiring Lycoris gives Mandrake several pieces of technology th
    • Unlimited numbers of distros, each which have some different list of compatible and incompatible apps, is NOT a strength.

      Choice is good but there is a limit. One thing I hate about most Linux distros, they install 30 different programs that all do the same thing. Who needs 30 different text editors? I don't even want to try 30 different text editors. Give me one mainstream program to start out with and then let me go find the alternatives. That's right, make a choice for me. Don't load up the machin
      • I like the happy medium myself- include the 30 different text editors, but pick a default (or a small number of defaults). Then in the install phase, I can either choose to install the default editor, or choose 1 or more specific ones.

    • There are HOW MANY DISTROS OUT THERE?

      Mandrake buys two moderately sized ones (not the smallest, not the biggest), and the sky is falling?

      This is modded "Interesting"?

      OTOH, if you're commenting on how some people WANT consolidation in Linux (down to two or a half dozen distros), then you are of course correct - diversity is better.

      Since such consolidation isn't going to happen, it's a moot point.

      Mod this "Redundant". Wait, I HAVE mod points, and I'm posting? Oops.

  • Consolidation of the commerical Linux vendors. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:27PM (#12824894)
    We are seeing the very same consolidation of the commercial Linux vendors that happened back in the late 1980s with commercial UNIX. Indeed, it will be interesting to see where this leads.

  • Mandriva? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:28PM (#12824900)
    Buying out another Linux distro makes about as much sense as buying out a little girls' lemonade stand.

  • Lycoris Major Linux Distribution? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by StarWreck ( 695075 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:28PM (#12824903) Homepage Journal
    Since when is Lycoris a MAJOR Linux Distribution? I'm fammilar with and have personally installed and used Debian, Red-Hat, Gentoo, Slackware, Amiga-Linux, Fedora, SuSE, College-Linux, Mandrake, and Lindows/Linspire but I've never even heard of Lycoris before...
    • It isnt one of the top20 distributions. It typically hangs at around 50th on the distrowatch rankings. Here [distrowatch.com] is the distrowatch page for lycoris.

    • Re:Lycoris Major Linux Distribution? (Score:4, Informative)

      by PenguinBoyDave ( 806137 ) <`david' `at' `davidmeyer.org'> on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:33PM (#12824956)
      You have not heard of Lycoris before because they are indeed not a major Linux player. I used them for a while, but the hardware support was lacking. Amazingly enough, their product had a strikingly similar look and feel to WindowsXP, but it never took off. When I did side-consulting, I tried to get about fifty of my customers who were looking at new computers to try Lycoris. forth-eight of them said "No" after taking it for a test drive. While it looked like Windows, it wasn't Windows, and that was what they wanted on their desktops. Sure...they bought a lot of Linux servers from me, but the desktops remained Windows.
      • You have not heard of Lycoris before because they are indeed not a major Linux player. I used them for a while, but the hardware support was lacking.

        I don't know if anyone else here remembers it, but I loved the LinuxWorld "review" of Lycrois. It was two or three paragraphs long and went something like this:

        "I installed Lycoris, a Linux billed as an XP clone. My screen tunred a weird shade of green when using the Desktop. That sucked. Fin."

        After reading that, I was just standing there with a horrifie
    • Ahhh, you've come across the "Press Release Reality Field". In a press release, adjectives and adverbs take on a whole new meaning.

      For example, I'm 5' 7" and white. But in a press release, I can become the next Michael Jordan.
      Being broke is : "liquidity issues" or "cash flow interruptions", etc ...
      It's the same on TV. A series that hasn't even been aired yet, is advertised as the "New Hit Series" of the season.

      I think you get the picture.

    • Well, Lycoris was much more "major" a few years ago. Originally it was called Redmond Linux, and was using very Microsoft-esque imagery and logos. They were billing themselves as a clone of Windows on Linux.

      Then, they abruptly changed their tune. Most likely they got some C&D's from Microsoft and they decided to change their name to Lycoris. While they were still going for a Windows-esque look and feel, they seemed to have lost some momentum, primarily after Lindows started to take off.
    • MODS ON CRACK!

      This is not a flamebait: honestly, who the hell knows Lycoris?

      The parent is right: Lycoris isn't a major Linux distro. Period. I don't see why that's a flamebait, just the parent merely pointing out that the usual PR statement bullshit just doesn't match reality at all in this case.

  • As a Mandriva user... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by seanvaandering ( 604658 ) <sean@vaandering.gmail@com> on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:30PM (#12824926)
    My recent upgrade from 10.0 to 10.1 is riddled with problems, will this aquisition actually change the distro, or do the people who download FREE versions of the distro get screwed? I noticed that some software in RPM format asks you for a disk you never got in the download version, its almost why I switched from Windows in the first place all over again!

    Needless to say running this Distro in 128MB of RAM is not recommended. :)
    • How is it you're a Mandrake user if you didn't have the last disk :)

      I'm was/is in a similar situation. I bought into the Mandrake Club about 13 months ago because 9.1 and 9.2 were quite excellent. Unfortunately, nothing in 10.0+ made it worth my while to renew the club subscription. Fedora is currently miles ahead of Mandriva and the price is right!
    • Maybe you haven't noticed, but the current version of Mandriva is a 10.2LE. So you are complaining about old schtuff.
    • I've had awful experiences with the community editions, but the "official" edition of 10.1 runs very smoothly for me, even on 128mb of ram. The trick is to upgrade to the Thac package of KDE3.4, which goes a lot easier on the ram usage.

      As for the dependencies, I reccommend using "easyurpmi" (just Google for it if you don't know what I'm talking about, it really is easy), and add the PLF sources and such, and then you'll be fairly set as far as dependencies go.
    • LE2005 aka 10.2 is much better than 10.1

      I couldn't even get 10.1 to boot on my machine (K7T266A), due to the infamous VIA USB bulk-timeout error.

      I burnt the 10.2 ISO to a DVD and it booted up, installed, no muss no fuss. No problems with the NVIDIA driver either.

    • My recent upgrade from 10.0 to 10.1 is riddled with problems

      You have recently upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1? You might have gone with LE2005 as well instead. And if you encounter any problems, there are countless Mandriva fora where people are eager to help you.

      do the people who download FREE versions of the distro get screwed?

      Have Mandriva ever "screwed" the people who download the Free versions of their distro? What makes you think they might do so now?

      I noticed that some software in RPM format

  • Mandriva? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Now who the hell came up with the name Mandriva?

    It couldn't have been a native English speaker, because, at least to me, it reads "Mandriver" and just SCREAMS HOMOSEXUALITY.

    • at least to me, it reads "Mandriver" and just SCREAMS HOMOSEXUALITY.

      I guess seeing things homosexual where there aren't any is your particular slant in life. Either that or you're a troll, which is more likely.

      I read it as "mand-riva" (short i like in "river", not "driver"). I think most everybody read it that way.
      • I always pronunced Man-dreeva, which while better than Man driver, still seems to have a flavor (man-diva) of female impersonators (think guys dressed up like Gloria Estefan or Cher).

        Many Mandrake Club members complained of the same thing, so the grandparent is not trolling nor is he necessarily in the closet. It is more likely that the parent is trolling.

        Just think, Mandrakesoft could change thier name again to Manlyca. Think Man licker.
    • I think all of the associations they managed to come up with that word have been mighty homosexual.
      To me, it sounds like Mangina. What a vagina would be doing on a man is an exercise best left for the reader.. But it does sound gay.

  • New name speculation... (Score:5, Funny)

    by mgkimsal2 ( 200677 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:33PM (#12824959) Homepage
    Mandrivis
    Lydraktiva
    Condraktivis
    Mancortiva

    I know you guys can come up with more!

  • Clitoris? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Kevin Mitnick ( 324809 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:33PM (#12824961) Homepage Journal
    Oh.. sorry.. Lycoris.. Haven't had my dose of pr0n yet this morning. Gotta wait 'till the co-worker goes for coffee.

  • Might give it a whirl (Score:3, Interesting)

    by miletus ( 552448 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:39PM (#12825027)
    I used Mandrake from version 7.2 up until 10.1. I found 10.1 to be problematic with various hardware, and 10.2 just impossible. So I switched to Ubuntu and everything works pretty well.

    Since I still have a Mandrake club membership, I might give the new version a whirl, since the font rendering and desktop stuff from Lycoris looks interesting. I seriously doubt they'll get away from the bloated, buggy mess they've turned into.

    • I had some issues with 10.1, but 10.2 has been running flawlessly for a couple of weeks now. I attributed the issues with 10.1 to the fact that I did an upgrade install (9.x -> 10.0 -> 10.1), so I did a fresh install of 10.2.

      I've given Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) a whirl, but wasn't too comfortable with the permissions setup of the distro. It's probably not as big a deal as I made it out to be, but having no real root user, but giving a standard user root permissions just didn't seem like a good idea to me.

  • Who? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sben ( 71467 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:40PM (#12825036)
    You're wondering "Who's next?". I'm wondering "Who?".
  • However personally I don't like Mandriva's general look&feel. Some things look cool while others suck. Their website looks as if it was drawn in Paint back in the old Win98 days. There's no easy way of installing software like apt-get install foo or yum install foo. Or having segfaults all the time while using Mandrake 10.1. Or having to use KDE 3.2 when 3.3 is out just because the guys have screwed something up and nearly made a fork of KDE (or why did it take so long to stay up to date?) Hope they'll

  • Who's Next (Score:4, Funny)

    by ronark ( 803478 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:41PM (#12825054)
    from the 'not-going-to-happen-in-this-lifetime dept.'

    "Mandriva announced today that they are purchasing the majority of shares in Microsoft Corporation. What does this signify to the Linux community?"
  • I use mandriva and i've been verry happy with 2005LE (The speed improvement over 10.1 is amazing, I wasn't expecting that). It's nice to see a company I've been with go through bankruptcy and then emerge to start bringing together a lot of people who are oriented towards the desktop linux experience.

    With all these people coming together, they should come up with something interesting. Who knows if it'll be good or bad, but I'm going to wait and see. I'm a little leery of Lycoris since I've never used it.

  • I think a little consolidation is inevitable in any large marketplace. Mandrake and Lycoris both have big cred when it comes to user friendliness on a newbie level (easy install, easy basic set-up). I think it's a good pairing in the fight to develop a desktop distro with the legs to really take on Microsoft.

    For all the people complaining about diversity... how many distros does that leave remaining? Fedora, Ubuntu, Knoppix, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, CentOS... and those are just the free ones I can na

  • Monopoly? (Score:4, Funny)

    by pjwhite ( 18503 ) on Wednesday June 15, 2005 @12:48PM (#12825128) Homepage
    I think they're going to try to acquire all of them and create a monopoly on silly made-up company names.
  • I think it's definately a good thing that Linux companies are joining forces. Until now, the only major Linux companies have been RedHat, Novell (Suse) and lately Sun. If one puts one of these companies distribution to a solution offering, the customers atleast have heard about these, and with good luck they have good image about them.

    In my mind Mandriva hasn't had that image. Few years ago they allmost went to bankruptcy. After that, I have to confess, I haven't been able to trust them. But now when the
  • Okay, so Lycoris isn't ranked high on DistroWatch, and it may not have a huge following (but enough of one to mod people down ;)

    However, something's brewing. Mandriva wouldn't have made the acquisition if nothing interesting was going on.

    Whaever Lycoris has, it's obvious that Mandriva wants to throw more resources into it and integrate it into its own offerings. It'll be interesting to see what happens six months from now.
  • I hope one of the 'assets' they're buying out was the game of solitare that you could play during the install of Lycoris. I'm sure there are other distributions out there that i haven't tried that have something like this, but i thought it was so great that I didn't have to sit there staring at packages installing, that I could have a few games of solitare while the installation whipped through. Nice idea, all distros should have it :)
    • RedHat
    • Debian (including CDD and Derivatives)
    • Nose (that's No_vell Su_se)
    • Mandriva

    I can see RedHat talking the traditional Server roles (database, web, application), Nose taking the Desktop + Workstation servers, Madriva taking the standalone machines and Debian et al being the true competition for all of them.

    Note that I am not suggesting that everything else will dissappear, but that commercial entities will remain localised, be debian based, or be swallowed up (who will take TurboLinux or will it tak

  • ...but I'm wondering: What the hell are they going to call the company now?

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