

SCO Possibly Delisted from NASDAQ 366
canfirman writes "Reuters is reporting that SCO could be delisted from the NASDAQ because "it has not filed its annual 10-K report with the SEC". The company claims it's because "it is examining matters related to stock issued as part of its compensation plans". SCO Stock is sitting at $4.30 at opening today. It'll be interesing to see where it goes from here."
Summing up the SCO vs IBM trial (Score:5, Funny)
SCO Lawyer: Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk...
Judge: Wait a minute! I'm not going to let you use the Chewbacca defense. This is a carny-like head game from the television show South Park.
SCO Lawyer: But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. That does not make sense! Why would a Wookiee--an eight foot tall Wookiee--want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself, what does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! "Look at me, I'm a lawyer defending SCO, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation... does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, IBM must have stolen our code we GPL'ed and put on our public FTP site. [pulling a monkey out of his pocket] Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey! [Judge's head explodes]
Pitty (Score:3, Funny)
Ouch!
Re:Pitty (Score:3, Informative)
One must wonder: Who's doing the buying?!
Re:Pitty (Score:3, Funny)
Further excerpt from the SCO vs IBM trial (Score:5, Funny)
SCO Lawyer: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a caveman. Your world of technology frightens me. I don't understand computers and the devils inside of them that make all those pretty pictures and noises. But the one thing I do know is that SCO owns Linux.
Jury Foreman: Your honor, we find for SCO and their Caveman Lawyer.
NASDAQ Confirms It... (Score:5, Funny)
It is only official when Netcraft confirms it..... (Score:3, Funny)
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered SCO community when IDC confirmed that SCO Unixware market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that SCO has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. SCO is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead
Not quite (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Interesting (Score:4, Informative)
Gloating? (Score:3, Insightful)
While I'm no fan of SCO, particularly after their get-rich-quick plan to sue IBM and license code-which-may-or-may-not-be in Linux, this whole story seems little more than gloating and hardly worthy of a /. post. Is the news that slow today?
Re:Gloating? (Score:2, Funny)
Is the news that slow today?
You and I are both subscribers... looking into the mysterious future, I'd have to say "Yes."
Re:Gloating? (Score:2)
Are saying is that no one at Google is doing anything today?
Re:Gloating? (Score:2)
Their stock is down over $0.25.. that's a good start. People are dumping it like a psycho girlfriend.
Re:Gloating? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Gloating? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Gloating? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Gloating? (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't gloating, it's war. We can gloat when the litigious bastards are out of business completely.
Slashdot is read by zillions of people who can not only sell their SCO, but also advise others to do so. Slashdot is also read by all kinds of mainstream journalists who might not otherwise notice what SCO is up to. One could argue it's been a damned effective campaign so far. Were it not for
I predict a scooby doo ending. (Score:5, Funny)
Darryl : "aaarg. And I would have succeeded if it weren't for those pesky slashdotters and their stupid dog!"
Which Endgame? (Score:3, Interesting)
I prefer them to stay in business but completely disengage from their anti-Linux/anti-Open Source antics. Darl and his goons should leave and people with some damn sense should go in and revive the company and work with Linux and Open Source communities.
Slashdot is read by zillions of people who can not only sell their SCO, but also advise others to do so.
Are there actually any die-hard /. readers h
Re:Gloating? (Score:5, Insightful)
I suspect that GrokLaw has quite a bit to do with it, too...
Re:Gloating? (Score:5, Informative)
If you want to know what is going on with SCOXE, you need to follow Growlaw every day, and also the SCOX message board at Yahoo.
This is very worthy of a Slashdot post. These bastards have told huge lies in the media and press. Made the most outrageous claims about Open Source, the GPL (unconstitutional, communists, etc.), created a cloud of FUD about Linux intellectual property, and even a FUD cloud about open source in general. They have engaged in a stock scam to unjustly enrich themselves while doing the previously mentioned things. They have claimed to own rights that they do not own. They have accused everyone who uses Linux (that is me personally) of owing them license money. They have sued Linux users (although not over Linux use per se). They have threatened to sue any Linux user (i.e. me personally). They have produced not one shred of evidence that they own anything in Linux.
This is not gloating.
The truth needs to come to light. Anyone found to have engaged in criminal activity should be prosecuted.
Re:Gloating? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Gloating? (Score:2, Funny)
Next we'll see an anouncement from SCO complaining about the litigious nature of society today.
Maybe they'll take out a full page ad in NY Times..
To a chemist it's Fe-y, to everyone else it's iron-y...
Re:Gloating? (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, TFA is a Reuters article pointing out that the SEC is considering de-listing a publically traded company because they are in arrears wrt the paper-work they are required to have on file.
This publically traded company is involved in lawsuits that affect several companies and technologies.
It's not as if it's a link to some guys blog -- clearly Reuters thinks it's worth mentioning.
Re:Gloating? (Score:2)
Re:Gloating? (Score:2)
That's what happens... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That's what happens... (Score:2)
requirements? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:requirements? (Score:5, Insightful)
Whilst I am not purporting to give legal advice, common sense dictates that if you own SCO stock, you should be on the horn to your lawyer jsut about.... now...
Re:requirements? (Score:3, Informative)
There are several non-regulated stock markets out there. http://www.otcbb.com/ [otcbb.com]Is one.
Re:requirements? (Score:2)
Re:requirements? (Score:5, Funny)
Lawsuits for everyone. (Score:4, Funny)
Okay, so next up, SCO tries to sue the NASDAQ small cap exchange for their delisting policies.
The current shareholders of SCO sue them for failing to file the necessary paperwork to maintain the listing and thereby affecting their ability to trade the stock.
And I'll be sued for pointing out the obvious demise of this company. Finally.
Re:requirements? (Score:5, Informative)
IIRC, I don't think a copy can list on the bulletin board unless they do the necessary filings under the 1934 securities act, like the 10-K and other annual reports. Maybe I'm confusing the bulletin board with something else.
Getting a delisting notice is not good, but not the end of the world. Having that "E" on the end of your symbol until you get your paper work in will get you dropped out of a lot of mutual funds who won't hold stocks that don't conform to the market's rules. If you want to make a bet on SCOX, you can try going short if you think they won't make the reporting deadline. Peeking at the short ratio, looks like a lot of people are thinking the same.
Re:requirements? (Score:5, Informative)
Because the company was mismanaged. Because the executives were negligent in performing their duties.
Shareholder lawsuits happen all the time. You don't follow business news, do you?
Ding Dong! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Ding Dong! (Score:4, Funny)
Only after the witch is well and truly gone do you sing that. In the meantime, we stare in simultaneous horror, awe, and delight.
Up up and away (Score:5, Funny)
It will go up. Where else would it go? Afterall they own linux code. And very soon every linux user will be paying them $699 license fees
Re:Up up and away (Score:2)
It's a trick... (Score:5, Funny)
Ryan Fenton
Another link.. (Score:5, Informative)
A funny SCO joke... (Score:5, Funny)
Who's there?
SCO!
SCO who?
Re:A funny SCO joke... (Score:2)
darl console Feb 13 22:09
boies ttyp1 Feb 17 11:38
Re:A funny SCO joke... (Score:2)
Re:A funny SCO joke... (Score:2)
SCO Away...
SCOX - SCOXE (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:SCOX - SCOXE (Score:3, Funny)
These haxors and their funny spellings. Why can't they just write "SUCKS"?
Re:SCOX - SCOXE (Score:2)
Re:SCOX - SCOXE (Score:5, Informative)
Re:SCOX - SCOXE (Score:3, Funny)
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I hope they make sure... (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, interesting's right... (Score:5, Funny)
I predict it'll be going downhill....if there's any downhill left, that is.
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Re:Yeah, interesting's right... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Yeah, interesting's right... (Score:3, Funny)
SELL SHORT? (Score:2)
I hope I did not just cause Etrade to be
Re:SELL SHORT? (Score:2)
The shares don't disappear because they get delisted. They continue to exist, and they even continue to trade. They just don't trade on NASDAQ; they trade only over-the-counter. This will tend to lead to a sharp decline in the price of the stock. You'll likely make a nice profit out of that short.
Chris Mattern
Re:SELL SHORT? (Score:2)
Got back an error message "The stock is either ineligible to be shorted or no shares are available to short."
Re:SELL SHORT? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:SELL SHORT? (Score:5, Informative)
1. Many brokers don't let you short a stock that is below $5.
2. Delisting a stock decreases liquidity which can make it very difficult to cover your short if the stock rises precipitously.
Unlike buying a stock which has a limited downside potential (the stock goes to $0 in which case you lose your entire investment), shorting a stock has a theoretically infinite downside potential. If you short a stock at $4.30 and it goes up to $1,000,000 per share, you've lost almost a million dollars for each share you shorted. Of course, that's not realistic, but the point is that shorting a stock is not to be taken lightly.
They'll appeal (Score:5, Interesting)
The rules that lead to being delisted are pretty cut-and-dried. However, a company with a solid business plan to rescue themselves will more often than not be given a break and allowed to remain listed while they work things out. Failing to file your 10-K is almost never an "accident". Add to that the fact that SCO really has no business plan beyond lawsuits and I think we'll likely be seeing them de-listed fairly rapidly.
Buying stock certificates? (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes, I'm serious.
Same thing happened with Enron stocks (Score:5, Interesting)
I can see the story now! (Score:3)
Body: The SCO Group (formerly NASDAQ:SCOX) has decided to move from its' longtime home on the NASDAQ, to online auction house EBay. They will also move from electronic record keeping to issuing stock certificates. SCO CEO Darl McBride said of the move "we think this will more accurately reflect our value in the marketplace, and allow us the opportunity to continue aggressively pursuing infringements against our intellectual property. Oh yeah - cash, certified cheque, or m
Why buy just one... (Score:3, Funny)
Who's next? (Score:2)
And don't say Microsoft. That's too easy.
Re:Who's next? (Score:3, Insightful)
Instead of targetting specific companies, the needs of the community would
probably be better met by efforts to improve existing software and documentation. New software to cover existing gaps is good too. If our offerings
improve, then the community and its resources will grow too, giving us more
power to defend ourself later.
SCO was a good wake up call. Serious enough to make us aware of the dangers,
but weak enough that it couldn't
not really likely to get delisted... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:not really likely to get delisted... (Score:5, Informative)
If they go down. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:If they go down. (Score:3, Interesting)
> leave the whole Linux IP issue ? Not proven ?
> Wouldn't it be better if they can at least survive
> until they get totally defeated in court, as a
> deterrent against other legal attacks ?
That is my fear. I'd prefer to put up with another year of SCO, and have them handed their balls on a platter by a court, than to have them simply cease functioning, and some other company come along, by the foetid remains and restart the process, bringing a
Re:If they go down. (Score:5, Interesting)
Getting buried in a countersuit that completely bankrupts your company without even getting all the way through trial is about the biggest deterrent that I can imagine. The next SCO wannabe will think twice before suing Big Blue. Once SCO is gone the entire question of whether or not Linux is tainted with illegal UNIX code becomes moot. With SCO out of the way the only company that has even a little bit of a shot of using UNIX copyrights against Linux becomes Novell, and Novell has essentially bet the future of the company on Linux.
It was a stretch for Caldera (now SCO), a long time Linux distributor to pretend that they didn't know that their copyrighted code had been included in Linux. After Novell's involvement in the SCO vs. IBM case even the dimmest jury would find it impossible to believe that Novell didn't intend to distribute Linux under the terms of the GPL.
In essence, as long as the folks who own and control the old UNIX copyrights are actively distributing Linux the community has very little to fear.
It would be nice if the GPL was tested in court, if only to shut up all of the GPL naysayers, but that would simply be a bonus.
Re:If they go down. (Score:3, Informative)
The hope (Score:3, Interesting)
I think this is highly reasonable. Despite their supposed status as "investors" The Canopy Group has treated SCOX like SCOX was a puppet and they had
poor ol darl (Score:3, Funny)
are starting to snarl
this is a sad day
for our dear ol friend darl
We hoped and we prayed
we would see this day come
now the world shall see
suing linux is dumb
The stock on the nasdaq
is being delisted
I hope darls ass
is feeling quite fisted
writing this poem
has been so much fun
under my bosses nose
so I am under the gun
thank you for allowing
my poetic roll
now go ahead and mod me
a useless old troll
buh bye SCO (Score:2)
Sometimes Scum Sinks (Score:2)
Then I'll have to choose between buying SCO stock and the fake Disney vacation offers.
Oh the horror. Maybe I should just answer the e-mail from the nice Nigerian who wants me to transfer his millions into my bank account, instead.
On the other hand, it's
Re:Sometimes Scum Sinks (Score:3, Funny)
Tell you what, offer to invest them in SCOXE. He'll be so grateful!
Much like BSD... (Score:2)
What? Too Soon?
But seriously, hopefully SCO will die and stay dead!
Other reasons for delisting (Score:2)
If I'm not mistaken (IANAFE - I am not a finance expert), they have to keep their stock above $1.00 and have a total value of $10,000,000 to remain listed (this may be NYSE rules).
I've seen some companies initiate reverse stock-splits to keep their share price above the threshold. Not being listed on NASDAQ isn't the end of the world
SCO may not be a very popular company, but I don't think they'll
Re:Other reasons for delisting - correction (Score:3, Informative)
History repeats itself... (Score:2)
SCO Website (Score:5, Interesting)
very funny and depressing at the same time.
Screw the Lawyers (Score:5, Interesting)
Real Time Quote (Score:4, Informative)
We're about to find out the dirt on Darl (Score:5, Informative)
The "10-K" is the backup data behind a company's annual report. It's the single most important disclosure of a company's financial status. The SEC allows 3 months after the close of the fiscal year for a 10-K filing. SCO's year closed at the end of October, and their 10-K was due at the end of January. Late filing of a 10-K or 10-Q (the quarterly report) is considered a major red flag for a stock. When I was following dying dot-coms [downside.com], a late 10-K or 10-Q was a strong indicator of trouble. Nobody files late because they have unexpectedly good numbers.
SCO filed an NT-12K form [sec.gov] with the SEC, asking for a 15-day extension. "The Company currently anticipates that the Form 10-K will be filed by no later than the fifteenth calendar day following the date on which the Form 10-K was due." They missed that date, too.
There has to be something really embarassing in the compensation plan. Really embarassing, if they're willing to risk delisting from the NASDAQ.
Delisting kicks a stock down to the pink sheets [pinksheets.com]. That's where the penny stocks favored by spammers and scammers live.
Re:We're about to find out the dirt on Darl (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:We're about to find out the dirt on Darl (Score:5, Interesting)
Remember that some months ago there was a "Senior accounting position" open in SCO? And we, in usual /. fashion, speculated that it might be due to inability to find somebody willing to sign his/her name under the mess that was going on?
Hmmm...
I used to work for a cocaine addict (Score:2)
Let's face it, ever since Douggy's Dad had to resign for sexually harrassing the staff, SCO has had the whiff of being a shitty little disreputable bunch of corner crac
overheard at SCO HQ... (Score:2, Funny)
Darl: BERT BUDDY! Come on in. Hey, wanna brew?
Bert: I, uh, no thanks. I have some important news.
Darl: Lemme guess, we total kicked Linux's ass today, right? Lay it on me bro.
Bert: Well, you see Darl, you know our stock? The ticker symbol is gonna change to SCOXE, just wanted to let you know that.
Darl: It is? Whoa! Awesome! Why are you doing that Bert?
Bert: It's because our stock is in the toi.., uh, actually the guys at NASDAQ think the Linux lawsuit is "eXtremelly Excell
Slap a $20 down? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm serious. Would this be the vehicle by which someone Pro-Linux could acquire what actual rights SCO had, then choose to release them into the GPL for certain, as well as formally acknowledge that the debated rights had also been GPL'ed?
In short, buy Darl out like he wanted but not at the price he wanted? Then turn what's left of the company into something useful?
Re:"We're sorry, that story is not available" (Score:3, Funny)
Re:It this the first sign that they are folding (Score:5, Funny)
Like the slow realization that all of their income was just sent to David Boies and now there's nothing left to pay the temps that put together the filing for the SEC?
Re:It this the first sign that they are folding (Score:3, Funny)
Re:It this the first sign that they are folding (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It this the first sign that they are folding (Score:3, Interesting)
There is probably nothing wrong with the Accounting department.
Re:It this the first sign that they are folding (Score:2)
Re:You people are a bunch of (Score:2)
Re:Sco an interesting investment. (Score:2)
Re:Stocks (Score:2)
Sun has faced the same thing with Solaris, and it's solution, I think, is ultimately the more viable. Give the operating system away and sell services. Maybe it won't wo