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Slackware 10.1 Released 167

Posted by Hemos from the from-beta-into-the-real-world dept.
wikinerd writes "Slackware 10.1 was released and it contains the Linux kernel 2.4.29/2.6.10, X.org X11R6.8.1, KDE 3.3.2, Mozilla 1.7.5, Xfce 4.2.0 and several other updated software, as you can see in the official changelog. You can download it right now via BitTorrent."
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Slackware 10.1 Released

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  • kernel (Score:4, Interesting)

    by essreenim ( 647659 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:32AM (#11596084)
    and it contains the Linux kernel 2.4.29/2.6.10

    I personally, have no problem with the kernel choice. They shipped 2.4.26 with 10.0 as it is more stable

    • Re: kernel (Score:5, Informative)

      by adamjaskie ( 310474 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:52AM (#11596230) Homepage
      Slackware 8 came with 2.2.something and 2.4.5, your choice which to install, but defaulting to the more stable 2.2.x kernel. This is no different, really. I used 2.4.5, because I wanted to use ReiserFS :)
      • Wasn't 2.2 removed by 8.1 and 2.4 upped to 2.4.18?

      • For some of us, it really doesn't matter. :) Once I get an install done, I build my own kernel. I'm one of those people who like building nice stable kernels with no modules, and only the drivers required for the machine.

        As a matter of fact, I just got done putting 2.6.10 on a Slack 9.1 box. I would have upgraded it first, but I wanted to get it, and the 10.1 disks are still downloading.
        • You could install SWareT, and upgrade it to 10.1 easily.

          • I could. :)

            I've been using Slackupdate [128.173.184.249] for a while, with great success. It appears to do pretty much the same thing. I have mine set up to hit my own repository, rather than the public ones. No need to abuse other people's networks with all my servers needing updates.

  • Dropline Gnome (Score:5, Informative)

    by Xpilot ( 117961 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:35AM (#11596104) Homepage
    For Slackware users who love Gnome (like me), they can still use Dropline's Gnome [dropline.net] distribution. It should work out of the box for Slackware 10.1 too.

    • most people can just use the gnome included with slackware. the dropline one has few tweaks (such as the look) , but other than that i wouldn't really bother.

      • Re:Dropline Gnome (Score:2, Informative)

        by WarehouseCU ( 655929 )
        The Dropline GNOME version is 2.8 vs. the 2.6 included with Slackware. I'd say that an entire release is more than a few tweaks.
      • Most b people won't be able to just use the gnome included with slackware when 11.0 comes out because it won't be included anymore. The grandparent didn't read the changelog and assumed that gnome had already been removed.
      • Dropline is at 2.8.2. There is built in Hal and DBus support and much more. If you want a real hot Gnome on Slack Dropline is for you, if you want a regular GUI just to get work done you might be comfortable with the stock Gnome but be aware, it will vanish soon.

    • Re:Dropline Gnome (Score:2, Interesting)

      by essreenim ( 647659 )
      For Slackware users who love Gnome (like me), they can still use Dropline's Gnome [dropline.net] distribution. It should work out of the box for Slackware 10.1 too.

      Why are you punbishing yourself? I use Slackware 10.0 with KDE. They gel well together for me. Of all the Linux distros, Slackware (for me) is the one that epitomises stability. Why not use KDE or FLuxbox. I use KDE for day-t-day tasks and Fluxbox for gaming. Gnome seems to go against the grain of what Slackware stands for. I would use Gnome wit

      • Translation:

        "I like KDE better than GNOME. I see that you don't. Why on Earth don't you stop punishing yourself and just follow my viewpoint instead of your own?"

        Why not use KDE? Well, why is your favorite color your favorite color? It's called personal opinion, putz!

    • Re:Dropline Gnome (Score:4, Informative)

      by zdzichu ( 100333 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @01:19PM (#11598621) Homepage Journal
      Sorry, but Dropline is against Slackware ideas. Dropline forces you to install PAM, which is not well seen in slackland. Dropline tend to replace half of the system, including X11. That's wrong! Last time I've checked there was some abstract requirement on external libiconv, despite iconv beeing part of standard glibc.

  • Torrent Mirror (Score:5, Informative)

    by hashinclude ( 192717 ) <slashdot@NOSPAM.hashinclude.com> on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:36AM (#11596112) Homepage
    In case someone manages to /. the torrents themselves, here [tripod.com] is an alternate location.

  • Mirror (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    For those not already in the know about MirrorDot, the non-slashdotted version is here [mirrordot.com].

    Posting as AC so not karma whoring.

  • Damnit universe! (Score:5, Funny)

    by theparanoidcynic ( 705438 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:37AM (#11596118)
    My cell phone has a text message which appears to offer a second date. Tonight.

    Bittorrent has Slackware 10.1 ISOs. Right now.

    These things cause conflict in my brain . . . . .
    • TAKE THE DATE!! You'll be glad you did :) Besides, the rule says you can cancel a date with a friend (ISO) if there's a possibility for sex.

      (and confirmed by both ross and chandler)

    • Re:Damnit universe! (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I say invite her over. If you install Slackware and she comes back, she's yours. If you install Slackware and she bolts, then it was never meant to be.

      • Re:Damnit universe! (Score:1, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward
        What if he starts the slackware install and she takes over? ;-)

        • Re:Damnit universe! (Score:2, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward
          Then I guess they have to fight, except, y'know, not in the traditional sense that we use "fight." In that fight everybody would win, well, everybody except the Slackware installer, which would sit there demanding the second disc for several hours while the humans "fight."
    • Start the torrent download. Go on the date. If it completes before the end of the date, you'll be seeding it for everyone else. (Seeding jokes omitted.)
    • I'm sure he's already downloading the same .torrent, he'll understand.

  • When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (Score:3, Funny)

    by cybrthng ( 22291 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:39AM (#11596127) Homepage Journal
    Slackware 10.1 and still no update on Yggdrasil? Come on folks!

  • ... all I want to know is, how's Pat doing?

    He hasn't put anything in the changelog (apart from a one-liner, "I'm looking forward to working with all of you towards the next one, too"). Are things getting better? Certainly hope so.

    • Re:Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (Score:5, Informative)

      by sordid_mammal ( 806249 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:54AM (#11596251)
      from the changelog:

      And about my status... I didn't want to have to bring this up again, but since a lot of people are under the impression that I've recovered and I'm just fine (and are beginning to make the usual demands of my time ;-), I'd better clarify what's going on. Especially since I'm not exactly fine.

      Back on Thu Nov 25, I posted in the ChangeLog that I thought I had infective endocarditis (and was promptly flamed for self-diagnosing again). After so much beating around the bush without getting a referral to a cardiologist, I finally called one myself and waited the two weeks it takes to get in. He is a top-notch doctor and heart surgeon (I was very lucky to be able get in to see him), and with no planting of any suggestion from me whatsoever came to the conclusion that it seemed to be infective endocarditis. I'm still waiting for more test results, but it looks like I finally have someone working on my side. So, lets hope that they get some conclusive diagnostics (I get another echo on Wednesday), that I make it until they do, and that it's not too late for this to be treated without a need for valve (or heart) replacement. I've had a rough couple of weeks (well, months really, but especially the last two weeks), and I have to say that while it's good to have a near-death experience every couple of years to keep your head clear and your focus on the important things in life, having one every morning is too often. With that frequency, they start to become a distraction. ;-)

      So, this verson is going to be wrapped up pretty quickly. I hope people will support the release, because I'm sure I'll have a lot more bills before all of this is through, and I'm blowing through what little money I've managed to save. Again, I'm not asking for donations, but I hope that when Slackware 10.1 comes out that people wanting to help out will order it. Also, in case of emergency I've left instructions with some very trusted people, so nobody should have to worry that if something happens to me that their Slackware systems will be orphaned and unsupported. It may be a long road back for me, but there will be people taking care of security issues as they crop up (like the folks at GUS-BR and SlackSec), and if I should make an unplanned departure there is a basic plan of succession in place.

      Thanks again to all the kind folks I've known over the years, and I hope to know you for many more. :-)

      Your Humble Slackware Maintainer,

      Pat

      • healthcare (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        >>> So, this verson is going to be wrapped up pretty quickly. I hope people will support the release, because I'm sure I'll have a lot more bills before all of this is through, and I'm blowing through what little money I've managed to save. >>>>

        It's a shame that someone who is delivering real benefit to people could be crippled by health costs in one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations in the world. Bullets or bandages people?
        • Speaking on behalf of a million slackers worldwide, trust me when I say that if it comes to it, Pat will not suffer for lack of funds. I know I've had far more value from him over the past 9 years than I've paid him, and frankly, if he needs the rest paid, all he has to do is call. We may not be the most coherent part of the Linux community, but we're an old and deep part, and we care for our own.

  • CHANGELOG (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Here's a copy of the CHANGELOG, as the original seems to have been taken down:

    http://mirror.linuxquestions.org/pub/distributions /slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [linuxquestions.org]

    --jeremy [linuxquestions.org]

  • Gentoo Users... (Score:4, Funny)

    by EvilTwinSkippy ( 112490 ) <yoda@nOSpAM.etoyoc.com> on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:52AM (#11596239) Homepage Journal
    So has anyone done and ebuild for that yet?

    (sarcasm)

  • I suggest you buy it (Score:5, Interesting)

    by GauteL ( 29207 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @09:55AM (#11596261)
    Patrick Volkerding, the heart and soul of Slackware is sick, and have requested that users of Slackware buy it to help cover his medical expenses.

    He doesn't ask for charity, only that people who use it, actually BUY it instead of just relying on BitTorrent.

    Personally I don't use Slackware, but if you are a user, you know what to do.

    • Re:I suggest you buy it (Score:5, Informative)

      by Skater ( 41976 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @10:52AM (#11596844) Homepage Journal
      I'm on the automatic subscription plan. Very convenient, and it supports my distro of choice. Slightly slower than downloading it, but I'll probably have the discs later this week or sometime next week, so it's really not bad at all.
      • Seconded.... I downloaded the 10.1 disc1 this morning to do some initial installs, and will get the remaining discs when my subscription package is mailed to me. Subscriptions are a fantastic way to offer continued support for something as keen as Slackware.
  • Does it support sata out of the box yet or do I need to upgrade to the experimental 2.6.10 kernel? My hard drive is dying and I want to buy a SATA, but I'd like to avoid any unnecessary issues that this may cause.

    • Re:SATA? (Score:2, Informative)

      by jprior2001 ( 787374 )
      There is a SATA boot floppy http://slackware.at/data/slackware-current/bootdis ks/

      And there is a SATA kernel selection.
    • I believe that's a kernel issue; your kernel supports it or it doesn't. The other day, recompiling, I believe it was 2.6.10, I discovered that by default I had SATA support, though I didn't really want/need it.
    • Don't quote me on this but AFAIK there will be SATA support. I have no idea if it'll be "out of the box" but I have heard reports that there's a SATA enabled bootdisk avaliable (I haven't read the changelog or anything yet).
      I'll have to try it out later since I already have a SATA hard drive :-)

      FYI, there's a SATA ISO floating around somewhere for slackware 10 that some kind soul made. It runs just fine, but I can't remember where it was hosted :-/
      Perhaps if SATA _isn't_ supported out of the box someone el
    • I originally had trouble with s-ata on my box. I managed to get a hold of a tailor-made CD with a sata bzimage. That's the beauty of Slack - i has such a great community of people behind it. Even if the offical distro has some shortcommings, they are more than made up for by the support and the distribution itself

      [insert Gentoo jokes here, hehe]

    • The default kernel is 2.4.29, which includes similar support for sata drives as 2.6.10. Simply boot to 'sata.i' for the installer.
      • As a FreeBSD user who has had SATA support for at least two years, what's the big deal with the separate driver under Linux? Isn't there a unified ATA driver that covers both PATA and SATA? To me, a separate SATA driver sounds as odd as having a separate EIDE driver.
  • Are the disks in the mail yet?
  • Will this mark the return of official security updates for Slackware?

    I don't really trust third-party packages, which is the only thing that was available for 10.0 and a long time on current.

    Once Pat got nearer to 10.1, security updates for current were available, but I can't run a development branch.

    I know that Pat was sick, and I don't blame him for this at all. But I really hope that with 10.1, Slackware will reclaim its status as the distro with the best security updates.

  • Slack Slowdown (Score:5, Insightful)

    by erikharrison ( 633719 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @10:12AM (#11596411)
    This is great news. Slack is the most important of the one man distros, and it's always a worry that something might make Pat (and Slack, by extension) topple and fall.

    But this doesn't seem to be a real worry. Pat's dropped Gnome out of the core distro, which is really better for everyone - Gnome eats up huge amounts of Pat's energy, and Slack has been an Xless or KDE centric distro for a while now. Dropline Gnome is pretty sweet, so even after Gnome was included in Slack, most users I know used Dropline anyway.

    Pat's made it clear that he has made plans for Slack to continue in his absence should anything happen to him, so no need to migrate my desktop just yet, and in light of Pat's recent illness the Slack community has really backed him up - and I also like seeing the third party packagers for Slack get included in the distro. It's nice seeing the Slack community gel over the recent trauma.

    All in all, Slack seems as healthy as ever, even if of late, Pat hasn't been
    • From the changelog:
      Among the many program updates and distribution enhancements, you'll find two of the most advanced desktop environments available today: Xfce 4.2.0, a fast and lightweight but visually appealing and easy to use desktop environment, and KDE 3.3.2, the latest version of the award-winning K Desktop Environment. GNOME 2.6.1 with several upgrades and bug fixes compared with Slackware 10.0 is also included.
  • ...Right after I downloaded 10.0. Back to the Torrents for me.
  • Is it just me ?

    I really think slackware linux should include some BASIC server apps like PostgreSQL [postgresql.org], Squid [squid-cache.org], Socks5 [permeo.com], UnrealIRCd [unrealircd.com], etc.

    do you ?
    • An irc server being a basic server app? somehow I don't think that will be included anytime soon. pgsql could be a nice addition, but squid/socks/irc is a bit too much.

      • An irc server being a basic server app? somehow I don't think that will be included anytime soon. pgsql could be a nice addition, but squid/socks/irc is a bit too much.

        I'm with you on an irc server. That's just not basic server software (though that does not necessarily mean it shouldn't be included in and of itself). As for Postgres, MySQL is already included and I feel it would be redundant to include two SQL servers. SOCKS just doesn't seem to fit for me, but there's nothing like squid in Slackwar

      • Well, personally I install squid in pretty much every Slackware box I install, and is the only one package I really miss from the standard install.
    • It is just you.

      Ok, you and the folks who want Gentoo to distribute binaries, RedHat to be less commercial, and KDE to be more like Gnome.

  • Dependencies?!?!? No, no, I use Slackware :) (Score:3, Insightful)

    by michelcultivo ( 524114 ) on Monday February 07, 2005 @10:35AM (#11596651) Journal
    Coming from various distributions that use dependencies on their packages (RedHat, Debian, Conectiva) I got some problems trying to customize some software. And with Slackware my life is getting more easy now, God save Patrick and maintain Slackwares "Free Dependencies".
  • I'm wondering if I should bother upgrading to a *.1 release. I'm running slack 10.0 with 2.6.8 kernel, and I already upgraded kde to 3.3.2 (s10.0 came with 3.2). Is the benefit worth the effort of an upgrade, or should I wait for slackware 11 with some really big updates? I love slackware and want to support the project, but I just got my slack box just how I like it, and am reluctant to bork the whole thing.
    • Hey do what you want! I am still using Slack 9.1 on my main box, everything is still truck'n along. That is one of the cool things about Linux, don't do what you don't want to. The Camel has spoke!
    • FYI, the last actual install I did was 9.0... and I've been using swaret to update ever since. This is a good way to stay current without having to reinstall from scratch. Some people say there are problems with swaret, but I've never experienced any. I've got 2 slack machines I've been keeping updated this way, no problems at all; a thinkpad and a regular pc.
    • I'm still on 9.1. I updated kernels to 2.6.x and performed all the security/software updates I needed. As far as I can see, I have what's essentially a 10.x install, with the only difference being that I'm still using XFree86.
  • First time slackware user here, I have 10.0 installed on a box, and want to go to 10.1. What is the easiest way to upgrade? Download CD and run upgrade script?
  • You don't really need to grab the latest and greatest slack. Now, speaking
    strictly for myself, most of my boxes are 7.0, 8.x era, but I have all the
    latest and greatest improvements. A lot of people seem to take Slack's lack of
    package dependancy tracking (different from lack of package management) as a
    negative, but I have always viewed it as a plus. You don't have to have the
    latest and greatest slackware to have the latest and greatest slackware, if you
    guys take my meaning.

    Long live slackware!

    SealBeater
  • for x in `lynx -source http://www.slackware.org/torrents/index.html|grep href|cut -f2 -d\"`; do screen -d -m wget http://www.slackware.org/torrents/$x; done
    for x in *; do screen -d -m btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 2 $x; done
  • I think we all need to support free software projects. I personally paid money to get the original Slackware 10 CDs from the Slackware Store [slackware.com] and I have put some Slackware propaganda [slackware.com] on my site [wikinerds.org]. You can also buy t-shirts from their store or join them [slackware.com] and report bugs. Another way to help is to show ZipSlack [slackware.com] to your friends, if they still use Windows, so that they can familiarise themselves with a GNU/Linux system without repartitioning their disk. You can also subscribe and get Slackware CDs whenever they rel
  • Ok, I came up with this really dumb (good?) idea. See, I'm just about broke. I'd love to support Slackware as it's my favorite distribution I've been using since about 1997.

    I kinda grumbled that the only way to get them was through bittorrent, and we all know how dumb lopsided home-internet connections are. My upload is 1/16th of my download bandwidth, so downloading the isos here at home might choke my uplink for my voip service (even with QoS).

    So then I got thinking... there's 3 major ISPs in the are

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