
LinuxWorld Expo Day 1 Showfloor Reports 112
Gentu writes "Here are the first reports from the first day of LinuxWorldExpo's showfloor: NewsForge discusses a few interesting 'off-the-record' tidbits among the announced news, while OSNews offers a report, too, accompanied by a number of pictures from the Expo."
booth babes links please (Score:3, Funny)
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Interesting (Score:4, Funny)
That is interesting that you have mentioned booths. Every time I visit a computer expo, I have a strong urge to switch from Linux [google.com] to BSD [google.com]. It is a very strange feeling which I absolutely cannot explain. I never have this feeling in my basement, though, so when I'm back in front of my computer, I usually forget about it and keep using Debian, but during every expo that urge comes back and keeps getting stronger and stronger. It is nearly irresistible, yet completely subconscious, beyond any reason and understanding. It would almost be mystical, if only my thoughts were pure and innocent... Could someone please explain it to me? Could that be Satan's temptations? With all of those daemons around, I'm not sure...
FYI (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Linuxcare? (Score:1)
Sheesh, some of you are so easily amused.
Re:booth babes links please (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm not in IT, but my field has a much higher representation from the fairer sex!!
Does this ratio of 9/125 represent the actual number of female workers in the IT industry, or is it lower?
It sure sucks to be in IT if you are a guy... but if you are a girl, you're in extreme demand and you get your pick... not that there's much to pick from there :-P.
Re:booth babes links please (Score:1)
When I did my Chemical Engineering degree (Score:2)
My move to IT has at least been an improvement on that.
Re:booth babes links please (Score:4, Insightful)
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This is a well-known phenomenon. In strongly male-dominated fields (not
fields where it's like 80%/20%, but more like 95%/5% or worse), the women
you do find in those fields are some of the very best people in the field.
This is an overgeneralization, but it's a *good* overgeneralization (i.e.,
it's not true every time, but it's true WAY more often than it's false).
I have a theory about why this is, and it goes like this: the wome
Re:booth babes links please (Score:2)
I would also have to say that most (but not all) of the guys that were in the top classes were pretty sharp cookies. What was interesting was the differences in the companies. You could tell which companies recuited for what. FWIIW, Avaya had some of the sharpest. IBM, and HP were no slouches, but Avaya had more of the edge for both men and women.
Re:booth babes links please (Score:1)
Well you know... (Score:1)
They may have showed if there'd have been some hard cash being burnt.
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> this ratio of 9/125 represent the actual number of female workers in the
> IT industry, or is it lower?
It's probably very typical, within one standard deviation of average.
> my field has a much higher representation from the fairer sex!
Yeah. So does my workplace. I'm the (entire) IT department and am one of
two male employees, the other being the maintenance guy. All my other
coworkers are female. (I work at a libr
Re:booth babes links please (Score:2)
Before junior high girls tend to be better at math than boys...and they still get shoved out. Your guess of why is as good as mine. (My wife tells of her first year algebra class where the teacher got the boys of the class together to talk football in class...so it's not exactly subtle.)
Re:booth babes links please (Score:1)
Then again, I like my booth babes middle aged, trim, tall, ponytailed, and bearded.
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Mono is cool. (Score:3, Interesting)
The Novell, Ximian and SuSE booths were under the same roof at LinuxWorld. We talked with two Mono guys who showed us MonoDevelop running, and a program which is able to load the Gecko module and create a functional browser in under 35-40 lines of code.
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Mono is cool. (Score:2)
Life is good with a dual G5.
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I can only take this to mean that you must be assuming that there is some code-generation going on underneath the drag-and-drop mechanism that connects components together in InterfaceBuilder. That's an understandable mistake since so many other similar tools chose that implementation. (Most of them had to because C++ was too static to support the more elegant strategy.) When you're using InterfaceBuilder, however, you're actually working with live instant
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:3, Funny)
Which is, I think, a silly claim to make. I mean, I can "load the gecko module and create a functional browser in just ONE line of code!"
Wow! Wasn't that F@!#ing KEWL!?!?
I guess the real question is... SO? What are you going to do with this?
I can just see it now...
yambb - Yet Another Mozilla Based Browser
yambb
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:2)
I write applications using PHP. Sometimes LAMP, sometimes with PHP-GTK. With this toolkit, I get:
1) Reasonable performance
2) Cross platform (Win/Lin/Mac)
3) Very rapid development times
4) Language that lets me focus on the deliverable, not the "how to".
Java comes pretty close to all these criterion, but I'm already most familiar with PHP, so it gets the brunt of my efforts.
But, if I use the neat-o Gnome/UI/Whizbang application framework that can "do X i
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:1)
GTK# is crossplatform
gecko#: is OSX/Linux with Win32 support being developed.
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:2)
No Win32? Sorry, but that's like 90% of my audience.
I HAVE to support Windows. It's my philosophy to support Mac OS and Linux. (which I do with PHP and GTK) If a language/toolkit won't support Win32/MacOS/Linux, I won't use them.
Now, that limits me to Perl (ugly), Java (boring) or PHP. (quick and elegant) C is too low-level to be meaningful in the space I work in. (customized, niche workflow management products for small-to-mid sized organizations)
Re:Mono is cool. (Score:4, Interesting)
It is very usefull. I can use it to mix pages of HTML and Mayas scripting language MEL, previously making GUI's for scripts with MEL was a major pain up the ass, now you can just make a window with mel enabled links.
Quote about a gift horse and inspection... (Score:5, Insightful)
IBM did not have to do this, and the product still has lots of value.
Invitations (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Invitations (Score:1, Funny)
KFG
Riiiiight... (Score:2)
Re:Invitations (Score:2)
Sensationalistic. (Score:1)
However, Stone never came out and said Novell would not entertain a buyout offer. Stay tuned.
Am I the only one who heard cheesy sinister music after that? Moderately sensationalistic. Just an observation, no need to take offense.
For the Embedded Penguins!!! (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4827920836.htm [linuxdevices.com]
Lots of cool gagets and other "embedded" stuff running Linux! Now, where did I leave the darn Pitch Fork???
Apple 2, Microsoft 0 (Score:3, Interesting)
What a difference! One company has active Open Source contributing employees, and the other discourages such people!
Re:Apple 2, Microsoft 0 (Score:1)
THREE speakers from Apple.
They just did.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:cool (Score:1, Interesting)
Doesn't ship with Aqua though.
Re:Apple 2, Microsoft 0 (Score:2)
Oh yes, they contribute the minimal amount they have to, considering their entire company relies on Open Source and that they make hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars from the work of others.
How about them contributing something useful, like say, oh, the Sorenson codec, or an open source iTunes client ? How exactly have they repaid the Open Source community for the money they make from the contributions of others ?
Novell just released SuSE Enterprise 9 too (Score:5, Interesting)
Life is good...
Good; maybe RH will follow suit (Score:2)
I last read that RH planned to support 2.6 in 2005. Here's hoping that will be "late 2004" instead.
All big iron and free software (Score:1)
Lindows (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Lindows (Score:1)
Re:Lindows (Score:1, Informative)
The machine is no more or less secure to remote exploits simply because the console user is root. Most of Lindows' users are home users some it's unlikely that someone's going to physical access.
If someone *does* physically get on the machine, then the user's home directory is where all of their important stuff is anyway, and killing that kills anything of use to them, and at that point who cares what happens to the rest. Any physical access means the machine is owned anyway, no matter what kinds
Re:Lindows (Score:2)
Personally, if I feel that I might be doing something in the slightest bit dangerous, I create a new unpriviledged user to do it as. Then if something gets loose, I wipe the user, with scant loss. (This has only happened a couple of times...but that's twice my neck has been saved.)
Unfortunately, most Lindows users don't even think about the possibility of running as a non-root user. So they never find out about the possibilities and dangers. I
two great quotes (Score:1)
"I know what it is. Don't let the suit fool you."
Second quote[s]:
"So, how was her cleavage?"
"I don't know, I had to keep my eye on the puck. Besides, it was her eyes that got my attention."
"Welcome to the world of intelligent men."
LinuxWorld Expo = NovellWorld (Score:4, Informative)
If the Novell, SuSE, Ximian area were any bigger, they'd have to call it NovellWorld, which it just may be called by next year. If anyone was asleep while Novell was making these acquisitions, wake up, 'cause Novell is deadly serious about being the biggest baddest Linux company there is (and from their presentations they believe they already are.)
Novell certainly gave out the best stuff. I got 2 tickets to a SF Giants game for Wed. night, 2 red Novell baseball jerseys, 1 Novell white t-shirt and a SuSE/Novell stuffed Gecko. Others got the Sharp Zaurus, Apple iPod, and $100 Amazon gift certificates.
Also Novell was showcasing what they called the Novell Linux Desktop. I asked a lot of employees about this. They've taken the best of SuSE, the best of Ximian, combined Gnome and KDE and made a really slick looking desktop (which I think they will target at business users). But, it's so new they don't even know what they want to do with it yet.
They had it running on tons of computers and had attendees go through forwarding an e-mail with Evolution and opening a Word document with OpenOffice.org Writer to show off how easy using Linux can be. I actually heard people next to me trying it out saying things like, "If a secretary sits down and it isn't Windows, there will be an initial fear, but this is not really that different, and is really easy to use. I think most people would pick this up in no time..." Duh. Welcome to 2001.
Anyway, I thought this was Novell's LinuxWorld. They have a phalanx of people in brown shirts with red N's on 'em there. It will be interesting if by this time next year their tent is even bigger and merged with IBM's or Sun's. Or even more interesting, if their court cases work out such that they definitively show that they still own UNIX, they'll be one company that owns Netware, UNIX, and SuSE Linux. Biggest Baddest indeed.
Get your facts strait! (Score:1)
It's not a Gecko, It's a Chameleon!
Re:Get your facts strait! (Score:2)
'suse gecko' = 23,400 hits,
'suse chameleon' = 4,310 hits.
Winner: 'suse gecko'
But, Suse's own site [suse.com] explains it's a chameleon named Geeko.
Them facts are straight.
Re:Get your facts strait! (Score:1)
I did not know that
RedHat: The Nature of Choosing to Get Wierd (Score:2, Interesting)
Page 1: "There is a choice in nature" [image of two red cicles A and B.]
Page 2-3: "Where th
Corporate whoring (Score:1)
Why is it that everyone spends all their time focusing on the big corporate showings and not the other guys? I did not see a single picture or mention of anything in the ".org Pavilion" except for a mention that "the Fedora Project has its own booth"...
I mean, come on people! Doesn't anyone else remember when we didn't care who was touting "Linux support" or "plans on shipping Linux pre-installed" but instead on the cool things people were DOING with Linux?
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