More Linux Predictions for 2004 325
An anonymous reader writes "Experts, shmexperts - it's time for the Linux community's own predictions, felt the editors of LinuxWorld Magazine. Prognostications in their Jan 2004 round-up cover media players ('turning your phone into an iPod will be hot by the end of 2004'), IPOs ('Of course, LinuxCertified, Inc'), and MS ('Microsoft will start an intensive campaign to promote their Longhorn technology as Linux standards compliant') - that last is one from Samba's John Terpstra." The original story was back in November.
I predict.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Sun and IBM will be considered the biggest Linux players by the end of 2004, and that Linux will be installed on Mac like numbers of corporate desktops (corporate not techy).
I also predict the return of thin-clients to the corporate environment, especially in large outsourcing contracts.
Re:I predict.. (Score:2, Informative)
They already have 15,000 users internally (a drop in the bucket, but a start...) runing on SuSE desktops for daily work, but at the research division mind you.
Re:I predict.. (Score:5, Interesting)
IBM don't want to own a release they want to build on top of both SuSE and Red Hat, Sun will do the same. This will enable both SuSE and Red Hat to get good profits BUT... will ensure competition between them managed by the big two, thus preventing anyone becoming Microsoft. IBM will release, and support, Desktop versions released on Red Hat and SuSE to corporate customers depending on where they are based.
Sun runs around 20,000 people off thin clients, and most of their laptop users are moving over to Java Desktop (really Linux).
Think of it this way...
Microsoft make money out of the desktop and want to make money out of the server using
Sun and IBM make money out of the server, and want to continue to make money on the server. They make money out of J2EE based applications on those servers which runs on anything.
If you kill Windows on the desktop you kill
Now the one thing that stands in the way here is Outlook, love it or hate it it does do calendaring and email, with task lists and that Exchange server is the thing that really stops people moving over. The Sun system kicks Exchange into touch.. but an open source solution that gets decent penetration would further help here. If Sun Messaging or Domino gain share in the next 12 months this will be indicative of companies looking to move away from Windows.
The Sun and IBM plan is in many ways about killing
Re:I predict.. (Score:2)
...that:
Can you think of a good reason why... (Score:2)
They already have Unix Services for Windows, which provides any API/shell/command related stuff you're missing.
Re:I predict.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Amen, and this is also one of the killer things about linux that sucks under windows.
Yes, I can get Windows to run on thin clients via a server and app servers just like linux. Problem is that it costs 20 Bajillion dollars to do it for even a small company of only 20-30 workstations.
I know it's a change from the trend of the pc... Computer on every desktop to one master computer serving all the Terminals. but it works insanely well. A dirt cheap Dual Atha
Outlook (Score:2)
(*SIGH*) I use Evolution, and while I love it for email, and for personal calendaring, there still isn't a good *group* calendering server that I know of. Yes, I know there is the "Ximian Connector", but that still depends on Exchange, and is supposedly pretty crippled. (I don't have any personal
One of the things that would be nice... (Score:5, Interesting)
Linux, for me, peaked in usability/reliability in 1999. It's still quite useful, but I began experiencing many more compatibility problems since that point.
I have a video card whose driver is closed. I've got multiple peripherals that are only partially implemented because manufacturers for some reason are reluctant to release information to developers. It's great as-is, don't get me wrong, but participating on the Internet has gotten much harder as everybody decides to go proprietary and tug in different directions.
For example, Flash runs slower on Linux; so slow that it causes the sound to go out of sync (related bug that also seems to bite some Windows installs: this [65.61.160.117] applet and those coded like it have audio that is too quiet). Java is still a real pain to get working right. Maybe the greatest thing that's happened this year is Mozilla/Firebird, but I'm running it without add-ons!
I believe only great things are to come, what with Linux having reached 2.6.0, and greatly appreciate all the developers have done for it. Now, I think it'd be nice if others began to support it.
Re:One of the things that would be nice... (Score:4, Interesting)
Reality check for linux in 2004 (Score:5, Insightful)
2004 will be a year for delivery-on-promise and return-on-investment. The halo is off and linux will have to prove itself by the same measures other IT components are judged. Fortunately, linux will continue to leverage huge cost benefits, huge mindshare benefits, and a rising tide of anti-Microsoftism. that said, lofty valuation for RedHat and Novell will likely come into question sometime soon.
Re:Proving Linux (Score:3, Insightful)
Since Microsoft has set the bar rediculously low in terms of measurable and effective productivity, this won't be much of an issue.
Re:Reality check for linux in 2004 (Score:2)
But you can't deny the media hype in 2003 (Score:2)
I stand by my statement - in 2004 people who are making investments in linux will get over simply adopting what is in the limelight and start judging linux as an IT investment.
The year of the Penguin (Score:3, Interesting)
link (Score:4, Informative)
Still not THE year, but coming along (Score:4, Interesting)
I certainly think that Microsoft sending out numerous free copies of Small Business Server 2003 shows that they are taking Linux much more seriously than previously. And I think when we hit 2005 and companies have to make a big decision either way that if the Linux offerings by then for the small shop and desktop have improved their UIs so that virtually anyone can setup Linux on their current machines as easily as or more easily than a Longhorn upgrade, THEN you will see the mass migration.
FWIW...
Re:Still not THE year, but coming along (Score:2)
Torvalds will be... (Score:5, Funny)
slashdot.org will be bought by Fox News. CowboyNeal will become a Fox News Anchor.
The world will collapse.
Re:Torvalds will be... (Score:3, Funny)
Stuff to look out for in 2004. (Score:4, Informative)
Missing Cairo, XServe etc (Score:2)
Also you are not mentioning Cairo at all, and I believe this will be a huge X enhancement in 2004/5 whenever it comes along.
As for apps, I continue to advocate Gnumeric and AbiWord, which I believe are superior to their less-polished looking OpenOffice equivalents.
Re:Stuff to look out for in 2004. (Score:2)
Desktops
1) Sun Java Desktop
2) IBM Linux Desktop
What it is under the cover doesn't matter, its the name at the front that counts.
Re:Stuff to look out for in 2004. (Score:2)
Re:Stuff to look out for in 2004. (Score:3, Interesting)
KDE 3.2
Xfree86 4.4
Xouvert
A bit pessimistic, I think. KDE 3.3 is scheduled for december 2004 if released on time, and talks are going for making it only 3.2 and half, to give more time for KDE 4.0. That would mean summer 2004. Xfree86 4.4 is already in RC2, with the core-team out the way 4.5 should be out by the end of 2004 too. Also Xserver at freedesktop.org is way more interessting than Xourvert, and should make a lot of splash in 2004.
Ximian tools have made Chandler pointless (Score:2)
Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:5, Interesting)
Microsoft's pricing and online activation system has already pretty much removed office from consumer pc's. People who used to take cds home from work are doing without, and it's only a matter of time until the word about open office gets out. I'm not claiming that open office is as good as microsoft office, but it's good enough, I think.
I think that microsoft is making one of the biggest mistakes in its history in the way it prices office. The strategy seems to be aimed, as near as I can tell, at keeping corporate revenues high while allowing MS to cut prices for low end consumer machines.
A corporate workstation with xp pro and office pro pays microsoft almost 3x what a consumer user with xp home and works pays. I don't think that reflects costs or utility to the customer.
The most useful part of what people pay microsoft for comes from xp home -- it gives you the ability to run the huge library of windows software, access to the huge array of hardware device drivers, and core networking tools. What you get, for the buck, from jumping to xp pro or adding office on to the back, provides a lot less utility for each dollar spent.
If you decide that the corporate market can bear substantially higher prices than the consumer market, and if you notice that the main differences between a corporate user and a home user is office, then loading up the costs on the office side makes sense. I think that's what they're doing, and I think it's a fundamentally unstable pricing scheme.
So I predict that we're going to see corporate workstation users going with xp home and open office. A lot of computers that have been sold with $375 worth of microsoft software on them will now be sold with $94 worth of microsoft software on them.
MS-Office still makes sense for a lot of people. If you run exchange server, and want to use outlook as a groupware client, it makes sense. Excel users who earn a lot are going to get the spreadsheet they know and want, no one's going to tell a $150k/year guy to learn a new spreadsheet. But those types of users don't add up to a monopoly.
If the office monopoly begins to crack, it will be a really big deal. It will be a decline in a core microsoft business, and will suggest that perhaps the best days are behind them. And it will be the result of an open source project.
Windows to linux is a very wrenching change, in a million little ways. But MS-Office to Open Office is a lot more doable.
I think that's where MS's empire will first start to crack.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:3, Insightful)
If an employee of mine makes $150k/year, I might expect him to learn a new spreadsheet on his own time. The more money they make, the higher my expectations, especially if they are in a liquid position (ie. easily replaceable).
Which would cost more? Replacing the $150k/year person, or the continued software licenses? It's a cost-benefit analysis, not so easily waived.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
If you pay anyone $150k/year that you consider "easily replaceable", I'm not sure I'm willing to rely too heavily on your business sense.
While we're at it, if he's learning a new spreadsheet because you're paying him, he's not doing it on his own time; He's doing it because you're paying him, and he's not doing something else for you he could be otherwise. So, which costs more: the continued software licenses, or paying your employee to learn a new spreadsheet. That's your cost-benefit analysis. Take wh
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
Windows XP Pro License: $127
Office XP Pro License: $297
Key numbers that never require activation: priceless
Open office.org (WTF do they insist on adding
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
I'm not saying that there won't be a huge market for ms-office. I run it myself, and I have scripted it myself. I like it. I just don't think it will remain as a monopoly. Almost everyone has to use it if it's going to remain as a monopoly.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
It's an uphill battle at the moment, but as soon as OO gets critical mass it will become the standard and MSO will be dwindling fast.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
We need application integration. Some of our custom apps are written to integrate with Word and that integration doesn't function. Asking for OOo intergration? Not gonna happen.
Try this [openoffice.org]. We have many of our apps inhouse that use Word and Excel via automation that I'm strongly considering moving over to OO, especially our one vertical app that we sell that requires Word 2000/XP/2003 in order to function.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
Ouch, bad memories. I was working help-desk in 1995 for a group of secretaries who were being forced to make exactly that switch. And that's exactly what was said, and it was true. They never did switch. We of the help desk, rather than get called every time they wanted to italicize something (no, really), set the pref
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:3, Insightful)
OpenOffice.org (Score:3, Informative)
Unfortunately somehow the program got installed on her system and "stole" the .doc file extension association
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:4, Interesting)
Converting to Open Office will not only crack the Office suite monopoly, but it will give the Linux desktop a foothold in the corporate world. Many office users primarily require MS-Office to do their jobs. If corporate IT can move these users to Linux and using Open Office they will.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:5, Insightful)
But I see a lot of people in this situation. They go to wal-mart, and they buy a HP machine for $500. They're not comptuer people, they just want to go online, hit the web, send email, and type up some stuff from time to time.
Because they buy at wal-mart, they don't get a crack at the $234 OEM price on office professional. Something comes up, and they decide that they'd like to have office -- someone sends them a powerpoint file, or whatever. And they find out that office is $450. They're just not going to spend that.
In the old days, they would just bring the office cds home from work. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it is what happened. But now they can't.
My point was that if people start running open office at home, there's going to be a userbase of people who run it. If a pointy headed boss runs open office at home, and says, "this is good enough," maybe he'll figure it's good enough for the people he manages.
Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack (Score:2)
I realize the point you're making, but keep in mind that Microsoft releases viewers for all of their document formats for free. All they have to do is start selling Word for something reasonable (say $50) and that would cover 90% of Office use in the home.
Ars Technica's Linux Predictions for 2004 (Score:2, Interesting)
Perhaps... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Perhaps... (Score:2)
I predict... (Score:3, Redundant)
People wouldn't make so many predictions if they were forced to wear a signboard at the end of the year with a list of all the predictions they made that didn't come true. Say, that sounds like an idea....
Where's Mandrake? (Score:3, Informative)
Which distributions will show the greatest growth in 2004?
I was surprised that Mandrake didn't make the list. Mandrake in my experience is one of the easiest distributions to install and use and has made some impressive contributions over the last year (9.2, MandrakeMove). Still I have to admit I haven't tried SUSE so maybe I'm missing out on something...
Re:Where's Mandrake? (Score:2, Informative)
What kind of show stopper did you encounter? The only problem I've ever had was with Centrino notebooks but that's because there are no linux drivers. If you do decide to give Mandrake another chance, check out the Linux Questions [linuxquestions.org] forum dedicated to Mandrake.
Re:Where's Mandrake? (Score:2)
shared memory experts? (Score:3, Funny)
I predict that a new algorithm for thread-safe access to shared memory will be developed using either semaphores and spin-locks. But them, I'm no expert.
"And The Future?" by PJ of Groklaw (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Invester's Business Daily makes up its Top 10 Tech Stories [investors.com] of the year without mentioning Microsoft in any context.
2. A speculation comes from Chris Gulker in an IT Managers Journal article [itmanagersjournal.com] that Microsoft will introduce an MSLinux when Longhorn turns out to be unsellable. (Good thing or bad thing? I think good, if it happened.)
3. The example of Smart Displays [pcmag.com], where per-user licensing inhibits even Microsoft's innovation, as cited in a Register article [theregister.co.uk]:
"The final nail in its coffin was Microsoft's absurd decision to kow-tow to the tin god of its licensing agreements. If you took your smart display downstairs, nobody in the den with the computer could use it. Single user licence, repeated Microsoft marketing droids. 'We can't compromise our standard licensing policy."
4. From the counter example of what can be, in the MagicBike [nytimes.com] project of the Parsons School of Design, PJ muses: "The idea is, when everyone gets to play, innovation is the result. Innovation doesn't come from money or walled-in projects, although money can help implement ideas. Innovation comes from people, and as George Bernard Shaw once pointed out, talent can show up simply anywhere, where you least expect it. The lower the barrier to entry, the more likely you are to get wonderful ideas. It's one reason I keep it possible to leave anonymous comments on Groklaw, despite the down side to that."
5. Vince Cerf's vision [bbc.co.uk] of the ubiquitous net is cited, reaching even to other planets.
PJ concludes: "Yes, [Microsoft] must adapt in order to be part of the future. I think it's a given that no one wants a wireless product that can only legally connect to one PC predetermined during setup. Not after somebody sent the mayor an email from a bike in Union Square station in NYC. Or even read about it. Once you have the concept and you see what is possible, you know what you know, and Brand X doesn't work for you after that. Like the song says, there's nothing like the real thing."
I know most of these points have been previously featured on
Besides, I think I have a crush on PJ...
Longhorn to be Linux Standards Compliant ? (Score:4, Interesting)
Furthermore, how would it benefit Microsoft to tout that "longhorn is compliant with xx". Microsoft already has source level compat with much free software via the Services For Unix Interix SDK. Windows can be an NFS client or server with SFU. CIFS interop between linux and windows could be better I suppose, but my feeling is that samba needs to move upwards, and microsoft has little incentive to move downward to acheive this.
I guess i'd just be curious to know where this statement came from. It sounds mostly like a "wouldn't that be nice" without a lot of thought behind it.. like an emotional victory rather than something of technical significance..
Re:Longhorn to be Linux Standards Compliant ? (Score:2)
In reality, this should be called open standards compatibility...but, some of this would be bad for M$...like EXT2/3 compatibility...makes dual booting easier...
Re:Longhorn to be Linux Standards Compliant ? (Score:2)
All of these little details cause us far more grief than the differences in the GUI. And Microsoft could address these easily, eliminating a huge fraction of the hostility that
Re:Longhorn to be Linux Standards Compliant ? (Score:2)
drive letters are primarily provided for backwards compat. They're slowly going away.
$HOMEDRIVE and $HOMEPATH are both defined on this XP machine.
you can make files (and other objects) case sensitive if you like; services for UNIX install will do this for you if you so desire.
Services for UNIX does include many GNU utilities... i use tcsh on my XP laptop quite frequently. gcc is there if you want bash, zsh, or anything else you can think of..
UTF-8 is a poor standard
Re:Longhorn to be Linux Standards Compliant ? (Score:2)
Microsoft does everything to make their stuff as incompatible as possible, all of the sudden they won't start to change that.
My prediction (and hope): (Score:2)
Sideeffect: That SuSE guy I met last year asks me and my team to join and take care of some data migration and we make heavy loads of Euros as subcontractors to SuSE/Novell.
All in all, Linux reaches critical mass in germany. More and more vendors and service providers start to recognize Linux as an OS. More and more PCs come without preinstalled Windows. Perhaps the first mass PCs come with Linux preinstalled.
Negative side effects: We see IT idiots and mo
And The MOST important change in 2004 is... (Score:2, Funny)
Just kidding, jeez, don't get all upset about it.
Some major and minor predictions. (Score:2, Interesting)
1.) Package format becomes a hot topic. Discussion regarding a standard takes center stage. Work begins on a standard package format, a stable version is expected in 2005. Adoption of linux on the desktop continues to be slow.
2.) Resolution and refresh rate changing on the fly (ala Windows since 9x) will finally appear in desktop distros.
3.) NTFS read/write support will be sorted out using the NTFS driver from windows. Microsoft will not issue a patch that breaks compa
ESR predictions? (Score:2)
Where Linux Will Beat MS (Score:4, Interesting)
Open Source, on the other hand, works according to another economic model, one which is not limited by profit-loss ratios and ROI. If you have people interested in it, you can create an internationalized version of a package for any audience. Now, there are still complicated technological issues (such as some of the really complex scripting systems in many of the smaller markets like SE Asia), but once we get past some of the difficult hurdles of creating truly flexible font and glyph servers and text rendering systems, we will see Linux and FOSS expanding into places where MS cannot hope to go. True, these won't bring in gobs of cash for Linux developers and ISV's, but I think we will see steady progress made. We will soon see Linux as the foundation for technological, and ultimately economic freedom for the majority of the world's governments and citizens.
I predict (Score:2, Interesting)
might not be that far.
but I predict this year will be the year of tech lawsuits as a new major player gets involved in the market.
I wouldnt be surprised if the GPL got overturned and claimed invalid by a well paid judge.
the shit with SCO last year might prove to be the st
SCO case will go limp in 2004 (Score:3, Insightful)
"limp" is too soft a word (Score:2)
I cant predict the actual precipitating event or day, however.
Disagree, installation is basically solved (Score:2)
As for the desktop, I suspect 2004 will see KDE and GNOME work more closely together via freedsktop.org thus making most flame wars irrelevant as interoperability will be vastly improved.
These are really old arguments (Score:5, Interesting)
As far as hotkeys, why would you want to standardize them? I can define any key to do what I want currently with my distro (SUSE). Different people work in different ways. Why restrict them to what you think should be standard.
Your "frequent tasks" comment doesn'r provide any examples, but you could look back to hotkeys to provide solutions.
Re:These are really old arguments (Score:2, Insightful)
This is the same point/counterpoint that always gets brought up. It needs to be as easy as possible out of the box, but still have the option to customize. That way you appeal to both crowds.
Re:These are really old arguments (Score:3, Insightful)
You've obviously never done support for non-technical users. A standardized interface and layout make it much easier to troubleshoot a problem.
Us geeks expect that we can customize our keyboards to do one-handed Dvorak layouts if we like. Joe User expects that if he's in an applic
Re:These are really old arguments (Score:2)
As far as I know F1 pulls up help in all standard apps, whether in KDE, Gnome or Bluecurve, because that's at the app level. Context sensitive help can also be called by F1 in KDE, Gnome and Bluecurve at the Window manager level. ALT+F calls the file menu in all standard apps and CNTL+Q exits the app. CNTL+C copies and CNTL+V pastes. That looks pretty standardized to me
Re:These are really old arguments (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:3, Interesting)
It is, if not easier...I also don't remember XP giving you any options of which packages you want to install, Fedora Core is one of the simplist and easiest installers I've seen...if you can read one of the 100's listed languages that is
It's only unusable to those that do not wish to learn something new. Once people realize that it's Linux installed and not XP, usability will improve.
Re:Disagree about gestures being a fad (Score:2)
The folks over at xpde.org [xpde.org] have been doing some really nice work. They seem to be at a standstill at the moment, but that's just for now. It would be nice to see it included as a Window Manager for Linux. It would really help some people migrate.
Re:Disagree about gestures being a fad (Score:2)
But why do you want keyboard shortcuts for the mouse? That's the question that always comes to my mind when people say how much they like gestures. I could see it if you only have one hand. But for me, my left hand is just sitting there on the keyboard the whole time. I don't see the advantage of being able to say, copy, by wiggling the mouse in a particular pattern when I already can hit ctrl-c without concious thought. I guess some people like mous
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:3, Insightful)
Usabilty is also good
nahhh (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:nahhh (Score:2)
The package management / library dependency hell has been handled rather nicely by .NET, of all things. I'm surprised that the OSS community didn't come up with something as simple as a tree that had the ability to manage all versions of a library ever made. Yeah, it might eat up space, but at least it'd be easy to check if you've got the dependency that you need...
It should be like /lib/libpng/1.0, /lib/libpng/1.1, /lib/libpng/1.2, and so on. Then, just search the tree, looking for the appropriate vers
Re:nahhh (Score:2)
Actually it is deeper than that:
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:2)
It's actually OK if it's a bit hard to install. I really like the Knoppix approach. If they went one more step and had a slightly easier "full install" step, it would be fine.
But there is a problem. It's still very difficult to do some of the things that seriously need to be "instant-gratification" tasks.
Playing a DVD.
Writing a CDR.
ReadWriting a compact flash chip.
Easy ACPI suspend/resume on laptops.
Playing MPEG and other A/V formats.
2-track recording an
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:4, Insightful)
"First, the linux installer must be as easy as windows."
I suggest you try actually installing RedHat or Mandrake compared to Windows. Windows installer is not anything ot be proud of. If you really want to see the example of how an installer should work, try letting Lindows just do it for you. Apart from looking much better than the windows installer, all these installers provide more flexibiliy while retaining an even more user friendly install that Windows. Gentoo and Debian and the like aren't made for being easy to use, basing your idea of a Linux install off of these just shows that you either don't know what is out there or are just trolling.
"Second the linux desktop has to surpass Windows XP in usability"
Again, this is not something that Linux needs to do, because it has already been done. I find my fluxbox desktop infinately more usable than a Windows desktop (or a gnome or KDE desktop for that matter).
A standardized hot-key interface already exists. It's pretty much the same as it is in Windows. Alt-first letter of the menu item. Some people choose not to implememnt this in their applications, same goes for the Windows community.
There already are programs to launch programs or perform other tasks using gestures. Take a look at xstroke. It doesn't come as default in a distro, because most people don't use gestures. This includes advanced users. A great deal of us Linux users try to use the mouse as little as possible, as a keyboard is quicker and more precise, and with customizable hotkey functionality can pretty much make your rat obsolete, which is a perfect reason NOT to force any standard hotkeys. Why include stuff only a few people are going to use? Just because it makes you happy and might impress a PHB who will still never use that functionality? Gesture users are a definate minority. I have yet to use the gestures plugin I downloaded and installed for Firebird, even though I took the time to customize my gestures.
If these are thing syou truly beleive Linux "needs" to become successful in your eyes, then build your own damn distro. Quit screaming that Linux's "needs" are identical to your own, because they are not.
All Linux "needs" to do is stay open and free in the same spirit it has always been, and the community will tailor Linux to suit their needs. It sounds like what you want is a free and open Windows. Linux was and is not created to replace Microsoft Windows, it has it's own goals which it will complete in its own time, and is doing fine without the 20000
Sorry for the rantings, but every time a comment like this comes along it boils my blood. Linux in my eyes has far surpassed Windows in every arena except for gaming, and the blame there lies with Game Developers, not Linux. Yes it took me some time and effort to get my ultimate desktop, and no matter what, it will take individuals time and effor to get the ultimate desktop, because it's a very personal experience. If you just want something that's standardized across platforms, pick a distro and a desktop and stick to it, but you will always have to make sacrafices.
Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (Score:2)
To the average person, they buy a computer, plug it in, and Windows is running. That is "installation" for Windows. There is no way Linux is going to do that unless machines have it already installed when you buy it from the store.
Blah blah blah (Score:2)
I hope you [Ctrl+W] the [Win] on your [|].
Hotkeys. Give me a goddamn break, like that's an issue.
Re:My predictions (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My predictions (Score:2)
Oh, wait -- what would I expect him to say about an OS which uses a demon as its logo. Sorry.
Re:My predictions (Score:2)
Good one. First belly laugh of the new year. Kudos.
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:2, Interesting)
Ummmmm, I predict that parent post will appear in 2004, just as it did in 2003?
Just working from memory mind you and even predictions about the past are risky, but it's kind of a hard post to forget given the specific detail it contains.
KFG
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:2)
I totally respect Slackware, and I think it's good for 'the community' to have it, I have to add that RPM doe
Slackware is almost where it's at... (Score:2, Insightful)
Next I tried freebsd and the damn thing was rock so
Re:Slackware is almost where it's at... (Score:5, Funny)
Are you sure you installed it correctly?
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:4, Interesting)
-Adam
Re:Slackware is where it's at... (Score:2, Informative)
It's set up like bind4 was, but you've got the bind9 named.conf file instead of named.boot
One odd thing I noticed, though, was that on my nameservers, I needed to set the debug level to 3 or higher for answer requests (and submitted a bug report about it, etc)
Re:My Prediction: (Score:2, Interesting)
I remember in 1998 when Linux was supposed to "surpass Windows on the desktop." I've been hearing it every year since, as well as Linux being "desktop-ready."
Please, hurry up! I really, really want to use it and not be forced to go to OS X for a UNIX desktop. But I have a feeling we'll be stuck in GNOME/KDE world for another 5-10 years.
Re:My Prediction: (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, please provide some evidence for your wild claims.
I've been hearing it every year since, as well as Linux being "desktop-ready."
It certainly is desktop-ready. *IF* the applications are there, Linux takes over. Just look at the 3d-modelling world which has gone over to Linux almost completely. If the applications are not there, Windows stays in place, obviously. That's why all the gamers are running Windows and will do s
Re:My Prediction: (Score:2)
I don't deny those were great victories for Linux this year, but I'm talking about the predictions made.
Or was your
Re:More of the same (Score:2)
Mod's should have Moderator name attached. (Score:2)
Meanwhile, Linux is being evaluated by cities and governments around the world for use on their desktops?
No references to how Linux fails in "compatibility" or "overall usability".
That's "insightful"?
Re:my prediction (Score:3, Informative)
it's easier than windows XP.... even with the fisher price mode turned on in XP.
I had my grandmother install a game (icewalkers) and she said... "That's it? no parade of confusing installer boxes to click yes or ok on? Wonderful!"
mandrake is easier to install an app on than windows XP.
This is if the app is packaged right. most linux install problems can be linked to the package or app it's self being a mess.
Don't blame a poorly written or packaged app on linux... linux is ready now.
And the detractors will fear any change in their (Score:2)
If it's irrelevant, why bother posting?
Re:My prediction (Score:2, Interesting)
I know that many business operate with that sort of attitude. I have friends that say "My department has a budget for licensing and related costs - if I don't spend it I will loose it. Besides, if I have any problems, I can just call tech support and they can bail me out. Seems like a pretty good investment to me."
This may all be true but I can only speak from my personal experience. W