A 3D Animation of Kernel Source Development 191
fixit! writes "Have a
look at this cool 3D animation of the Linux kernel source. This is how a source browser should look like!"
What is algebra, exactly? Is it one of those three-cornered things? -- J.M. Barrie
school science films (Score:2)
Art meets science... amazing that someone took the time to do this just for the fun of it.
Quite creative.
Errors (Score:3, Interesting)
Purty (Score:1)
Wow... (Score:1)
At least the actual page itself is nice and lightweight. Might keep the server from imploding for at least a few minutes...
Re:Wow... (Score:1)
Re:Wow... (Score:1)
Not that impressive... (Score:5, Funny)
seven degrees of separation white boards from my college days!
(Yes, my "small patch" was rejected as too small to bother including)
Re:Not that impressive... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Not that impressive... (Score:1, Funny)
Err...you mean your "small patch" was excluded from the "sex on campus" white boards, or from the kernel?
Re:Not that impressive... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not that impressive... (Score:4, Funny)
how the hell is a straight line complicated? ok, ok...sometimes they make little diamonds....you know, when someone has twins or something...
(it's funny. laugh.)
Re:Not that impressive... (Score:2)
go ahead and mod me offtopic if think i deserve it even if it does follow the parent post....
Can someone help the man out? (Score:1)
For those people still hungry for karma, I'm SURE this would get you some.
Re:Can someone help the man out? (Score:2, Informative)
http://somacore.com/slash3d/
Re:Can someone help the man out? (Score:4, Informative)
http://bisqwit.iki.fi/kala/kernel3d/ [bisqwit.iki.fi]
I'll keep them there for some hours, depending on the load induced to my puny 384 kb/s (<48 kB/s) bandwidth.
So far it seems though that the actual site [wanadoo.fr] is enduring pretty good too.
Owch (Score:1)
Re:Owch (Score:3, Insightful)
Eeeevil (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Eeeevil (Score:2)
Don't bother - I've just pulled it across at 220kB/s - they've got bandwidth to spare.
Re:Eeeevil (Score:1)
Looks like an Atari 2600 game... (Score:1, Redundant)
The first 90% of the movie looked like Missile Command from the Atari 2600 days, and the last 10% looked like I was speeding towards a two-dimensional line-drawn battle-tank (also like an Atari 2600 game).
Re:Looks like an Atari 2600 game... (Score:2)
OMM - one more mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Had my fingers crossed (Score:1)
Re:Had my fingers crossed (Score:2)
At least video works then. Just got sound to worry about
mirror (Score:1, Informative)
they really aren't worth it.
Browsing is step one (Score:5, Funny)
That's all nice and cool, but could we have a 3D shooter next where you can use a BFG#### to go bughunting?
Re:Browsing is step one (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Browsing is step one (Score:3, Funny)
(Taken from the Doom SysAdmin tool site.)
"...myself attacked by csh, csh was shot by friendly fire from behind, possibly by tcsh or xv, and my session was abruptly terminated."
Now that's just plain surreal.
Re:Browsing is step one (Score:2, Funny)
But, what happens if it kills you?
Hey! (Score:3, Funny)
This would have been a lot more impressive (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.visualthesaurus.com/index.jsp
Still cool, just not _slashdot_ cool.
Re:This would have been a lot more impressive (Score:2, Funny)
Tetsuo? (Score:5, Funny)
OH MY GOD.... (Score:1, Funny)
Now available in P2P (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Now available in P2P (Score:1)
Just my 2 cents
Re:Now available in P2P (Score:2)
blah blah blah. I haven't had any problems with Kazaa (Kazaa Lite to be exact) or the files I have leeched from it. I did use Direct Connect, but the hubs started asking for insane amounts of files to shared, so I stopped.
Re:Now available in P2P (Score:1)
But indeed, this all is very blah...
Re:Now available in P2P (Score:2)
Better would be to give their SHA1 and MD5 hashes in base32 [crockford.com] format. Saerching by name is so inexact when you know precisely which file it is.
Re: Now available in P2P (Score:2)
Gnutella mirror (Score:2, Informative)
magnet:245.mpg [magnet]
gnutella://245.mpg [gnutella]
ed2k://245.mpg" [ed2k]
More to follow?
Re:Gnutella mirror, other videos (Score:1)
"From 1.2.0 to 2.4.1: 12 MB MPEG (384x288, 1400 frames)":
magnet:120-240.mpg [magnet]
gnutella://120-240.mpg [gnutella]
ed2k://120-240.mpg [ed2k]
"From 1.2.0 to 2.4.1: 4 MB MPEG (320x240, 1200 frames, low motion)":
magnet:120-240s.mpg [magnet]
gnutella://120-240s.mpg [gnutella]
ed2k://120-240s.mpg [ed2k]
btw, untill somebody loads them in their eDonkey client the files won't show up on that network. Just there for compatibilty. Shareaza can generate them anyway.
Re:Gnutella mirror (Score:1)
No, it won't. Wanadoo is the largest French ISP, so they have more than enough bandwidth to spare.
a correction (Score:1)
should have been
That was how a source browser should have looked like!
wtf? (Score:1)
Uses? (Score:4, Interesting)
A very specific niche comment/query...
I'm not a programmer (BASIC doesn't count, right? :p ), but I have observed the development of a few open source projects and have seen the effects of code being introduced by programmers who have valuable contributions, but interact poorly with the rest of the source (usually novices). So, veterens, could this type of map, applied to the project in question, drive home the point and help mold the newbie into better practices, or are we better off oohing and ahhhing now and moving on to the next article?
Re: (Score:2)
Oohing and Ahhing (Score:2)
Way cool! (Score:1)
Don't worry about his bandwidth bill.... (Score:2, Offtopic)
They probably won't even notice - and it's holding up ok at the moment.
Re:Don't worry about his bandwidth bill.... (Score:1)
Re:Don't worry about his bandwidth bill.... (Score:1)
Re:Don't worry about his bandwidth bill.... (Score:1)
Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
(or not)
Look... (Score:1)
Sharp Eyes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Sharp Eyes (Score:1, Offtopic)
There's a lot of jokes round on Slashdot about the French being cowards, and they've only started in the last few weeks. Look guys, you're being conned. The French and Germans aren't afraid of Iraq, they simply have a different political and moral view of the problem. You don't have to agree with them to understand this, so why parrot this low-grade propaganda from TV comics?
Not new jokes... (Score:2)
My personal one liner is... "Seen on Ebay: 1000 French Military Rifles. Like new; only droped once."
Wow (Score:1)
Windows (Score:5, Funny)
For comparison, here are a few animations of Windows [animationlibrary.com]
Re:Windows (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Windows (Score:2)
visualizing complex data (Score:5, Interesting)
I think in general there may be interesting research to be done in the area of mapping/visualization of complex data: for instance this project of mapping the internet [cybergeography.org].
Does this really help in general? Are there many cases where such visual maps would help understanding of complex data?
Think for example, it may be interesting to produce such a map of everything2 [everything2.com], which is a sort of hyperlinked online encyclopedia, to see where the clustering is.
In astrophysics, 3D maps of the universe [noao.edu] have been produced for some time, and the human-eye understanding of large-scale structure was at first more direct than statistical analysis--for instance, people would see the famous filaments, but stats wouldn't.
A post above quoted the possible use in spotting "usefulness" of code contributions, by looking at their interdependencies for example.
Screensaver (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Screensaver (Score:1)
I use this one [softdd.com] under Windows, surely something similar exists under whatever OS you happen to be running...
Yes, but... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Yes, but... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Yes, but... (Score:1)
tar -cvj
That would start playing almost immediately and not leave any files laying around. On my computer, the product of that is only white noise and not too soothing... however, your HD's swap space often holds interesting secrets, and listening to them is only one dd away (well, one su or sudo, too).
Re:Yes, but... (Score:2)
Nice and all (Score:1)
Really worth downloading (or streaming or whatever you prefer with your mplayer)
wow. its full of stars (Score:1)
This is all very well.. (Score:2)
good plan (Score:1)
Re:good plan (Score:2)
Actually, for thousands of years, architects have used models. 2-D is great for construction but not for perceiving relationships, or explaing the building to others. Now the 3-d model is on the computer, it is easier to produce virtual models and they are done all the time.
watching the bits on an Atari ST (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:watching the bits on an Atari ST (Score:4, Informative)
It was mildly amusing from time to time.
My workplace recently bought all us programmers new Gateway systems where the integrated video card (a GeForce model) uses the same technology for video as the CoCo from the past. Figure out how to tell the board which part of system memory should be treated as video, and the same effect could be had.
Interesting. (Score:2)
Finally, we can see what Bill Gates (Score:2)
Interesting, but flawed... (Score:3, Informative)
I know, it's just eye candy, but thought I'd call them on it since no one else has...
From the page: can someone explain this? (Score:2)
Re:From the page: can someone explain this? (Score:2)
Am I close?
Found a bug! (Score:2, Funny)
3D Programming (Score:2, Interesting)
Back at CMU in the late 1980's I played around with SPICE (an electrical CAD package), attempting to build a graphical programming environment for Pascal. Eventually I hypothesized a 3D model, with axes for data & types, control flow and I/O. Using SPICE I defined software IC's and was able to connect them together. Then the output could be parsed into Pascal source. I never took it to the point of anything working, although I did get some pretty nice looking graphical 'programs' that woulda worked - for sure!!
IMHO there is still a strong potential for something like this - perhaps the advent of the "Web Services" model (which separates applications from interfaces) will encourage design of at least large scale systems using methods similar to those used for designing chemical plants (for example).
Hahahahaha....Viva la France! (Score:2)
My faith in the people of France has been restored.
Interesting project... (Score:2, Interesting)
Take this project, make it generic for any (C, for now, then extending to other languages) code, add in CVS/RCS/[insert your CM tool here] hooks, then slap a 20-30 MB MPEG on the boss' desktop when he goes off.
Seriously, though, I think this could be a useful tool in evaluating complexity (risk) in a large project or just for managment of the software development in general. "Geez--looks like this corner is really dynamic. What's going on there?" or "Wow. This group over here hasn't been touched in ages. Are we falling behind here?" The CM tool hooks are the most blazingly obvious needs in my mind for such a project to work--it's the best way to get a time history of the development.
Pixels and lines (Score:2)
-Thomas
gasp (Score:2)
Re:Rather Interesting Concept (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Rather Interesting Concept (Score:2)
I liked the way it went into detail(sorta) on the net/, seeing ipv4 compared to ipv6, etc.
Then again, its 4:17am and I'm sleep deprived. I'd be impressed by anything more intelectually stimulating than girls gone wild infomercials.
Re:Rather Interesting Concept (Score:1, Funny)
What channel?
Re:Rather Interesting Concept (Score:4, Interesting)
Perhaps you didn't actually read the page referred to in the story?:
---start quote---
The following code demonstrates exciting
features of GNU C used in Linux:
int a, b;
typedef int t, u;
void f1() { a * b; }
void f2() { t * u; }
void f3() { t * b; }
void f4() { int t; t * b; }
void f5(t u, unsigned t) {
switch ( t ) {
case 0: if ( u )
default: return;
}
}
---end quote---
This kind of code is CRAP. I don't know who wrote it, I don't care if he/she is a genius kernel guru. Hard to read, hard to maintain.
Mod parent down! (Score:2, Informative)
That's not actual code from the kernel source. It's an example of what kind of code gcc compiles and why it's hard to write a gcc-C parser.
The real kernel code is mostly easy to read for humans (because they have no problem with context recognition).
Re:Rather Interesting Concept (Score:3, Informative)
Use GCC? (Score:4, Interesting)
I can't remember if GCC assigns attributes to symbols so it is possible to keep track of code references but to forget the data references, but that would mean chasing through the debug symbol format.
A large poster? (Score:2, Informative)
You can get something like that here http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/posters/tech
Damn my feeble editing skills (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Sorry, OT (Score:1)
Re:Sorry, OT (Score:1, Interesting)
Exactly what you need on the GNU website [gnu.org]
A good rule of thumb for finding information with GNU software is:
1. Check the man page
2. Check the info page (ESPECIALLY with GNU software... tar doesn't even have an official manpage)
3. Check gnu.org
4. Check the source.
5. IRC? (especially the freenode IRC network [freenode.info] channels, such as #debian.
Please don't ask Slashdot!
--3141
Re:Stupid quicktime format (Score:1, Informative)