

More Revealed on the IBM Linux Wristwatch 97
bitFliper writes: "This site has more information about IBM's Linux wristwatch, including a whole page of pictures here. Linux 2.2 OS with 8MB Flash memory and 8MB DRAM memory. It weigh's in at 44 gms (approximately 1.5 ounces), has a touch sensitive display, IrDA, radio frequency wireless connectivity, and a
rechargeable lithium-polymer battery. Pretty cool."
iPAQ == Son of Itsy (Score:2)
-russ
Rayban Introduces Magnifying Sunglasses (Score:2)
EMUSE.NET [emuse.net]
nice but big, rather it as PDA or Clipboard (Score:1)
I'd also like them as the brains for a smart clipboard. Talk about reducing paperwork at a plant. Everything else is computerized, it would be so nice for the techs to get a programed schedule and check list to walk around with that could upload the results.
Geek chiq (Score:4)
Style is supposed to convey a message. The people who made furniture for Louis XIV would be puzzled by the modern taste for mission style furniture, where ornamentation is confined to a few artfully placed structural members. Style to them was a demonstration that you had the wealth to use the costliest materials and the labor to work them lavishly. People who use mission furniture in their homes are telling you that they are sophisticates enough to appreciate a more abstract aesthetic tied to simplicity and natural materials and finishes used tastefully and functionally.
Style or anti-style is always about making a statement. I'm trying to decode the iMac's transparency, but its significance escapes me. Perhaps it is supposed to suggest that you aren't intimidated by technology, and so don't need to hide it. Or maybe that you're technological and artistic impulses are balanced and in harmony.
In any case, I personally think that "proto" (as in prototype) is a style that's ready to take off. What the proto style will say is that you are more concerned with having the latest functionality than any frou-frou ornamentation. Imagine you are in a meeting and somebody whips out an oddly shaped block of plastic and starts scribbling on it. When asked, he tells you its one of a dozen industrial prototypes for the next generation Palm Pilot -- would you be impressed? If you saw somebody at LinuxWorld wearing one of these watches, would you be a bit jealous?
Style ultimately is a statement that you possess something that is rare and hard to obtain -- wealth, power, or discernment. Having access to the to technology so new that it hasn't been commercialized yet is also a rare and desirable thing. It's a geek value, but as geeks get more economic clout it will penetrate the general consciousness. It is only a matter of time before designers figure out how to dress up mass manufactured objects to give them the semblance of having this property of extreme newness -- they way they used gold plating, colored plastic, and injection molding to suggest the rare materials or skilled workmanship valued in older aesthetics.
Re:IBM playing tricks? (Score:1)
Though the research done with this watch is more implementation research than marketing research. Chances of this watch hitting the shelves is as likely as getting moon rocks at your grocer.
This thing is an ARM chip! (Score:2)
About two-dozen of the prototypes have been created so far. The watches run on an ARM-based EP7211 processor made by Cirrus Logic and have 8MB of memory to run programs and 8MB of flash memory to substitute for a hard disk. The watches also include an infrared and wireless radio connection and a touch-screen display. The watch can tell time and has a calendar and to-do list that can remind the wearer of appointments, Goyal said
Pretty Cool huh? :) No I am not linking to the article, you can do it from the IBM site (so I am lazy alright!! :))
Re:I'd rather have a TAG Heuer (Score:1)
Re:Does it run Staroffice? (Score:1)
-Adam
Not only will this device enable me to conquer the world, it also turns kittens into poptarts. [goats.com]
What I want in a computer wrist watch (Score:2)
Note there is only receive on the wireless part. This thing is a data display device, and the buttons are for browsing. Just as the Palm people reinvented the user interface from the ground up this watch would have its user interface redesigned from the ground up. One button might be a display time/display pages/access database toggle. Hit the button a few times and you switch between the main common uses of the watch instantly, no fuss, from whereever you are, like the application icon on the Palm. Other buttons would probably be more modal.
This watch would function as a watch, as a pager (and maybe to notify when you have important mail), and a portable phone/email/address list. Maybe a few other things as well like sports scores (not that I'm that big a fan but others are), stock prices (ditto) and so forth. My current pager has a feature where it picks up news headlines. Not all that uninteresting a feature, as long as I had some way to filter for what I was interested in.
The watch has a small screen space, limited control/input capability and the power requirements have to be insanely low. The positive side it has the ultimate convenience factor of being always available, faster than a PDA. The computer watch has to play to these strengths if it is to ever really take off.
that would be good for them (Score:1)
I'd like to see them do this like a Basic Stamp. You get the platform, source, insturction manual and modules that you could add onto it. Now that would be fun to play with, and useful.
Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)
What I would like to know is if they have a model for lefties. That dial wouldn't be nearly as easy to use when the watch is worn on the right arm.
Edward Burr
Re:What about the GPL (Score:1)
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Re:What about the GPL (Score:1)
i.e if they never release the watch, then the source doesn't have to be released, as no one is actually using it.
Am I correct in my thinking?
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Byte Magazine Reported This in the Early 80s (Score:2)
This was sometime in the early 1980s.
The month of the issue was April. :-)
one more time... (Score:2)
Re: What could you do with it? (Score:2)
Clock, calendar, stopwatch, alarms, etc... (obviously)
A Notepad
A date book / day planner
Address book
Phone book
Calculator
Currency conversions
GPS
Communication (send data to other watches?)
Email?
Re:Geek chiq (Score:1)
Cool Technology Wrist Watches at WristDreams (Score:1)
Fool ... (Score:1)
# cat decss.c
Re:Finally, (Score:2)
s/Linux//g (Score:3)
The point isn't exclusively the OS, its how well the applications match the form-factor of the device you're dealing with. While the article points out the advantages of Linux (for example, large code base available), I'm not convinced that those advantages translate directly to this mostly-unexplored form-factor.
Dealing with limited colors, memory, display size, etc. are special considerations for the wrist-watch even more so than the PDA.
Imagine... (Score:1)
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these on a baboon.
Those long arms had to come in useful sometime...
info (Score:1)
Just Imagine .... (Score:2)
1:37 pm
or
13:37
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Watches too easy to use? (Score:4)
Moreover, all watches should be set to display time in GMT only, and you should memorize the offset between GMT and your home! This would eliminate timezone confusion at the expense of a little math that you should be able to do in your head, and further goes to demonstrate my uber-eliteness and the fact that my penis must be much longer than all the rest of you plonkers out there who would never have thought of that!
Consumer Responsiveness (is that a word?) (Score:1)
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macbert@hcity.net
Re:Imagine... (Score:1)
Especially when you equip the watch with some kind of 'auto-rewind' kinetic energy, like those seiko watches have.
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Re:info (Score:1)
Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)
Re:Watches too easy to use? (Score:1)
Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)
All this innovation is making me itch. (Score:1)
How about a device that is a mobile phone bike wristwatch potato-baker digicam remote control, powered only by said potatoes that you can be worn on your wrist, hung on your Price Albert and plays MP3s, but only by Metallica...
Amen! Stop the whining! (Score:1)
"Uh, you're lame; this was on Geeknews like yesterday you fucking lamers"
and the poster thinks they're doing the world a service. In most cases, the post is news to *me.* I'm willing to bet that the post is news to other folks, too. Why do I read Slashdot? Because they post stories I'm interested in and I don't have to go trolling the 'Net. Have I seen this submission before? Maybe...but I don't remember it. Maybe the person is thinking of the nice Linux Journal story on an unrelated wristwatch.
So, yeah, I agree: the "this has been posted here/elsewhere sometime in the last 6 months" post is fucking lame, it's pathetic, and the poster(s) guilty need to die. Now.
Re:Set me see... (Score:1)
Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)
I'd prefer a knob like the old ones had to wind the watch, so you could look like you're winding it, but actually replying to a Slashdot message!
Re:Geek chiq (Score:1)
I'm trying to decode the iMac's transparency, but its significance escapes me.
I think it might be something to do with presenting the Mac as female, scantily-clad. Seriously!
Hamish
Re:one more time... (Score:1)
Happy day (Score:1)
But Why? (Score:1)
Imagine... (Score:1)
Does it run Staroffice? (Score:3)
I just had to......
Code I'd like to see on the watch... (Score:1)
that is definitely (Score:2)
you'd really have to be a geek to wear something like that... don't you agree?
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Pretty Cool ? (Score:1)
An Omega SeaMaster, maybe. Or Chanel, yes.
Tastelesss lump of plastic with horrid LCD screeen, gimme a break.
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Hopefully.... (Score:1)
and an IBM magnifying glass (tm) to read the display ?
My gawd... (Score:1)
How do you use it? (Score:1)
The Linux shell just seems impractical to use on a device that small. I sincerely hope the end user doesn't have to use it much.
This is a bit old, isn't it? (Score:1)
It's an old story (Aug 15) and I'm sure it's all been said on here before.
Need X support (Score:3)
Re:Need X support (Score:2)
Set me see... (Score:2)
NTP? (Score:1)
Sure it's not pretty - it's a RESEARCH project (Score:3)
Re:Fool ... (Score:2)
# echo "decss"
# MPAA v. IBM lawsuit
Thanks for the personal attack...preciate it!
IBM playing tricks? (Score:2)
-Ender
Case Design (Score:1)
The accessory market in gold chains and watch fobs would be huge all by itself.
:)
Re:Set me see... (Score:2)
To be worthwhile, a wrist computer must be light (the datalink is the heaviest watch I have ever owned), and display the time by default (I wouldn't wear it if it is not displaying the time). Given those requirements the interface has to be fairly simple. A couple buttons, maybe a touch screen, but I'm not going to want to pull out a stylus to see what my next appointment is.
The datalink gets around this by being mostly read only. It has an eye that looks at barcodes that flash across your computer screen. You can't update your info except on your computer. This works fairly well IMHO. I am definitly willing to carry both a PDA and a watch.
However, they should work together. If I could download stuff into my watch from my PDA it would be even better. I take my watch everywhere and my PDA most places.
My PDA should be able to do the notepad, planner, address book, phone book, etc and my watch should be able to display them to me. The things you should be able to do on your watch are set alarms (including one time alarms (for ebay auction end times)) stopwatch and timer (at the same time unlike the datalink) and possible the calculator. You watch does not need to be your PDA, there is room in this world for both.
I'll buy it. (Score:1)
I'll confess - I'm a gadget freak. I love these little thingies that go beep and do something utterly useless.
Now, listen up IBM and Samsung (and others). I have money, how can I give it to you?
When will we actually see these devices in the shops? I suspect saying "Linux" is so cool these days that companies make these smoke-and-mirror prereleases only so some division manager can claim he made company stock raise a tenth of a point when the next Gartner analysis is out.
What about the GPL (Score:1)
I assume they have made some modifications, as I don't think even MuLinux could run on something like that with wireless communication and everything
Steven Murdoch.
web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~murdomania/
Possible apps.... (Score:1)
Build in a thermometer (with a thermister)
MP3 player (with a IBM Microdrive on the strap!)
Caluclator (obvious)
Skinable Clock (REAL OBVIOUS! :))
The possibilities are endless!
Re:This is a bit old, isn't it? (Score:1)
Actually, this type of post is what's getting old.
Get a life. Well, one that doesn't require pointing out problems with Slashdot submissions.
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Woodware (Score:1)
At the risk of being male-centric, I propose this watch to be the de facto standard of what will henceforth be called WOODWARE. :)
Re:My gawd... (Score:1)
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Re:retarded (Score:1)
Matsucom onHand PC (Score:2)
An alternative that has been out for a while is the Matsucom onHand PC [onhandpc.com].
From the spec sheet, 128KB RAM, 512KB ROM, 2MB Flash. 102x64 B&W LCD screen. Infrared and RS232 connections to PCs. An IBM-style nub pointer control, and four buttons. 52 grams and it is water resistant.
A friend of mine has written a few apps for it, the SDK is available.
Of course, since it isn't running Linux, this may not be of interest to some people.
Re:Geek chiq (Score:2)
What does it do, then? (Score:1)
The problem I'm having with this piece of technology is that I utterly fail to see any purpose apart from telling the time of the day.
You may rightfully accuse me of being a bit backwards with my choice of gadgetry, but I'm afraid that my present watch, a mechanical Swatch Irony that runs Coil 1.0 and Mechanical Windup 0.99b3, does not do. I realize that the Swatch is not skinnable, though, and not released under the GPL either.
Wow, my grammar really did get garbled this time (Score:1)
Re:Does it run Staroffice? (Score:1)
-Adam
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Re:Does it run Staroffice? (Score:1)
Oh yes, and one of those nice little pen punch keyboards. Have it fold over the face, or just leave it open and carry this 4.5x5.6x1.2cm + keyboard size beast in your pocket.
Do they give you the compilers?
Re:Need X support (Score:1)
But can it run Windows? (Score:1)
Now that would really make it useful....
Plus, the pretty BSOD could be used as a night light.
Secret Windows Settings [calpoly.edu]
RFC: CPU and Input (Score:1)
Is it using one of those coin sized hard drives that was mentioned here some time back?
It seems to have the dial on the side...is this doing things kind of like the phone key input, where you press the letter for the key (one..two..or three taps)..then wait a second, then work on the next letter...with this one using the dial to indicate the letter desired. Maybe a shift/shift lock key?
Voice recognization?
BreezyGuy
Re:What does it do, then? (Score:1)
t_t_b
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I think not; therefore I ain't®
Re:s/Linux//g (Score:1)
If you can put a real OS on it (albeit slimmed down) then why not do it? Later, when watches support 1MHz CPUs and plug-in SVGA eye-pieces, we'll be thankful they did.
And we can hack it to our heart's content.
[Antispam] Kill the x in my email address to reply
Another neat application (Score:2)
Ch-chuck on remote assignment.
decisions decisions... (Score:1)
No no no no (Score:1)
Don't think "Next Generation of Calculator Watches", think "The Power of a PC On Your Wrist". Clearly there are UI issues to be dealt with, but ignore those for now--first comes the apps, then figure out how to interact with it.
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Linux MAPI Server!
http://www.openone.com/software/MailOne/
Finally, (Score:1)
Eat your heart out Dick Tracy.
Re:decisions decisions... (Score:1)
When can I buy one? 8-) (Score:1)
I've been waiting for a watch with RF wireless connectivity (bluetooth, 802.11, whatever) so that I can use it as an ntp server for all of my other wireless devices which have no need to have an accurate clock in them when I am wearing one on my wrist.. Syncronizing the clocks on my phone, watch, computer, pda etc would be made a lot easier that way. Maybe a radio-referenced watch too, so that I wouldn't ever need to set it
Enough rambling.
As for it being too big and heavy, it's probably lighter than my Casio DEP-600 [cl.spb.ru] which I'm wearing now
Re:I'd rather have a TAG Heuer (Score:1)
Re:Pretty Cool ? (Score:1)
NTPd? (was Re:NTP?) (Score:1)
Btw, it says :
- IrDA, Radio Frequency wireless connectivity
on the site, so you can avoid the line-of-sight problems of IrDA by using a wireless RF link to serve those ntp packets
Not impressed! (Score:1)
I'm quite sure that commercial RT OS plus their GUI can be much lighter than this, so...
Re:IBM playing tricks? (Score:2)
-russ
Don't wait for a Yopy (Score:2)
-russ
Yeeha!! (Score:1)
Re:Does it run Staroffice? (Score:1)
Re:IBM playing tricks? (Score:1)
Re:retarded (Score:1)
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Re:s/Linux//g (Score:1)
[Antispam] Kill the x in my email address to reply
Re:This is a bit old, isn't it? (Score:2)
I know we've heard about it before...but it's even better now we've got some real info about it!
Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)
Since the article didn't really mention it, I guess we all have to kind of speculate
Linux Watch Developed in India? (Score:2)
The Official IBM Website [ibm.com] isn't very infomative about this though!.
Not waterproof ? (Score:2)
Most people wearing a watch want to keep it in most situations and if somebody wanders in Düsseldorf with one of these, it will sure get drown.
I'd also love if they could embed voice-recognition inside though, imagine in the streets somebody yelling "mkfs" in your back
Well, this'd sure be annoying too.
Okay, I admit I am totally blasted by this cool watch but we also have to find some issues about it or it won't be a discussion anymore.
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Re:How do you use it? (Score:1)