

Mandrake 7.1 Beta Ready For Download 137
I've gotten the word from the Mandrake folks that the beta version of 7.1 is ready for download. You can check out the details from the source as well. The current name for it is Hydrogen.
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Mandrake strong points... (Score:2)
Also where are they heading with each release? More server related, or desktop?
Thanks,
Ryan
"Don't nargin your MEX files!"
What is Mandrake? (Score:1)
Includes ReiserFS! (Score:2)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
Great Distro (Score:3)
This really is a great distro, if you are a RedHat user and haven't tried it, check it out...
IMHO, it is all-around better than RedHat. There tend to be some surprisingly cool packages installed, such as colorgcc, and supermount support is in the kernel. The install program is neat too, allowing you to download secure crypto packages from some european sites during the install. I believe it uses fbcon instead of X windows (a bit of overkill for an install program).
The system configuration tool is also nice, and the update-finder also seems to work well.
It also came with the BlueSteel E-theme, and lets you choose enlightenment without gnome from the kdm/gdm login without any extra configuring. It is actually usable out of the box...
I am speaking from the 7.0 release, haven't tried 7.1 yet, but I plan to.
Why is is better ? + version numbering (Score:1)
Also, can someone finally rationally explain the case/goodness in Mandrake vs. any other distro? I've heard + read that it comes with some "ad-ons", but RedHat has been more than enough for myself & others...
Re:7.1 already!!! (Score:2)
Version numbering has nothing to do with anything.
Mandrake != Red Hat (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:2)
Of course, that's based on how I set my machine up. The good thing about linux is, if you want a server, make it a server; want a desktop, make it a desktop.
J
Re:What is Mandrake? (Score:3)
Redhat vs Mandrake (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
Mandrake is more open than SUSE or TurboLinux (IE evaluation CD, thought it was GPL)
Mandrake is first to the market with many features and in my eyes seems the most stable at the early implimentation.
I am not going to rant but i have always liked redat but i love mandrake.
Re:Great Distro (Score:1)
Good points with 6.2 were better packages included than redhat, and it wouldn't install gnome if I didn't want to.
I'll have to try 7.x when I feel like wasting time on my computer again.
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
Big Question (Score:1)
Mandrake is great, but one question is on everyone's mind... and it's been a while since I used mandrake so forgive me if this is common knowledge, but ...
Does mandrake still have that ugly as sin ansi art in the issue file ( or maybe it was motd ).
Ok, so this question really sucks, but I'm still curious.
Re:What is Mandrake? (Score:1)
Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offtopic (Score:1)
1) XFree86 4.0 (How can the Mandrake page get away with saying their 3.0 is the "latest"?)
2) Journalled File System (any of the contenders)... I know this is still very much up in the air still, but I figured that someone on Slashdot would be able to give a good date estimate for when to expect it in a mainstream distro)
3) Complete support for the DRI (Direct Redering Infrastructure?)-- perhaps this is directly involved with 1..
4) GOOD sound support-- How come even with Creative Labs cards I still have trouble getting sound to work, Redhat included? Does everyone else have the same troubles?
Thanks for any answers!
Re:Great Distro (Score:1)
I started working on an FTP install of 7.1 beta this afternoon. It looks great. Zope is included. And they've also added gnucash which I was never able to get running on my 7.0 system.
I found one bug in the installer, however. About halfway through the process of picking packages to install, the checkboxes to select or unselect a particular package suddenly disappeared. At that point I had to simply proceed, assuming that the default selections would work out.
Always fun to be on the bleeding edge.
-Tim
As someone Who has Used many distros (Score:3)
Debian is a good full system and if your a Purist as many of the Nviidia post seem to be then its for you.
Redhat is nice for Newbies but every relase after 5.0 has been buggy as all hell.
Linux-Mandrake is simply put the Redhat that works. Plus its got a tun of other cool stuff.
I've used other distros plus *BSD's but for most people I think Mandrake or Slack is the best bet
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
The fore thought that goes into the lib's and apps that dont turn out 6 months latter to be bug ridden and poorly implimented.
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:5)
Some highlights:
Some of the stuff in the previous version (7.0), was framebuffer support, SuperMount (which automatically mounts removable media), security levels (eg., 4 & 5 default to no externally accessible services - you have to turn them on yourself), and DiskDrake, which allows you to resize fat/fat32 partitions at install time (and is FREE!).
They've always been pentium-compiled and have always had a strong focus on shipping with a slick KDE desktop. They also appear to have more solid releases than Red Hat, and release often, so you can run stable-but-recent (as opposed to Debian, where you've got a years-old stable release system or recent unstable system).
There's a good article at LWN - http://lwn.net/2000/features/Linux Mandrake.phtml [lwn.net] and, of course, information all over Linux Mandrake's website. ;)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
Re:Big Question (Score:1)
change that. Also, the distrib comes with WM
which is what I always run.
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
If you're referring to bug fixes, RedHat publish their bug fix RPMs on updates.redhat.com where you need no special code to gain access.
If I recall, Mandrake is based on RedHat. So if you have a bug in RedHat you're likely to have it in Mandrake too.
More stable than RedHat? I don't think so. (Score:3)
Simply put, unlike Mandrake, RedHat actually takes care to make sure their OS is stable. If this means using somewhat older, less cutting edge but tried-and-true stuff, than so be it.
I can't have any respect for a distro that's putting X 4.0 into any sort of release. Despite the fact that it's versioned as an actual release, the general consensus is that it's still beta quality w.r.t stability, and it definately is missing support for numerous cards, such as the I128s that are in the lab where I work on my current research project. Including X4 in a distro at this point is stupid. (Even a beta - why have your beta release held up until whenever X4 catches up to X3.3.6 in stability/card support? Who knows when that's going to happen?)
Also, on a similar note, if you have the slightest bit of flakiness with your hardware, Mandrake will die, and die badly. One of my friends was trying to set up IP Masq, and was using Mandrake. It was doing some sort of "ide optimization" crap that did only one thing - render the system unusable/unbootable. (hung during init cycle). Gave him a copy of RedHat 6.1, installed and ran like a charm.
Mandrake's got some impressive things going on. But they take too many risks for a distro that's supposedly targeting newer desktop users - they're just asking for a support nightmare.
Re:Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offto (Score:1)
From the mandrake website:
Now includes brand new XFree 4.0 servers, with new modular architecture.
Re:Great Distro (Score:1)
The only thing that bugged me (about the 7.0 install) was that it doesn't keep a running total of how much space it needs for the install in expert mode. I only have a 1GB drive on my Linux box (yup, I know, big drives are cheap, I'll get around to it) and all it says is "not enough disk space", so I go back into the package installer and remove some more packages and try again, "not enough disk space" and repeat until it fits.
Aside from that, I was very impressed.
Re:Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offto (Score:1)
Hmmph! I must have looked at the wrong page!
Still interested in answers to the other questions though...
The current name for it is.... (Score:1)
blarg.
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I'd like to disagree (Score:1)
Re:What is Mandrake? (Score:1)
Re:Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offto (Score:1)
This [linux-mandrake.com] page was what confused me... It is the page linked to by the "Features" button in each page's header... I found what are apparently the most up to date release notes on the download page [linux-mandrake.com]...
Re:Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offto (Score:1)
way to go (Score:2)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:2)
March 24 2000 - Mandrake 7.0 for i486. It's been requested and awaited for a long time, now it's available: Linux-Mandrake 7.0 ISO image for i486 and compatibles machines can be downloaded from Tucows. You can now use your old machines again!
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fnews.ph p3 [linux-mandrake.com] will take you to the news page. Click on the download button on the nav bar for a list of mirrors which have the i486 ISO for download.
Also, you can get Mandrake for Sparc and Alpha too.
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:2)
Pentium optimised distros will provide performance boost on any intel or non-intel pentium-class or higher CPU, including the AMD K5, K6, K6-2, K6-3, K7, as well the the Cyrix 6x86, M-II and M-III.
Now, the only CPUs that won't benefit from pentium optimisation are lower than pentium CPUs. Those are 486es and 386es. How many people want to run a graphic-intense distro on such CPUs ? Not many. The thing is, mandrake is aimed at users with powerful machines, not at users with old junk they're looking to reuse for free.
Same with the floppy friendly nature of distros. I think that floppy friendlyness should be an afterthought. I mean, who wants to install a linux distro from floppies, and why ? It doesn't make sense, as most machines out there have got a CD-Rom drive. Those without a CD-Rom drive can either go with copying the files over the network, or taking out the HD for installation on another box.. but a floppy install should never be required, nor should it be something developers waste time on when doing a distro. It's waste of time, it's boring work..
Linux isn't just for the old machines you don't want of anymore. It's for the brand-new K7 or P-III you've got as well.
Re:Includes ReiserFS! (Score:1)
Re:What is Mandrake? (Score:2)
which begs the question, when will we see something from the Mandrake team named 'Lothar' (Mandrake's trusted offsider in the comic strip)?
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Presentat ion/
is XFree 4.0 stable? (Score:1)
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Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
I disagree. I think it's a great thing. I also think that Alpha and PowerPC optimized distributions would be great things as well. The nice thing about having many Linux distributions is that each can cater to a specific niche. My favorite feature of Open Source software is that I can tailor it to my own needs; optimizing a Linux distribution to a specific processor seems like a natural outgrowth of this feature.
(I wanted to state this more eloquently, but I've been helping a friend with her laptop all night, and I'm beat.)
Re:Why is is better ? + version numbering (Score:1)
I just keep coming back to the Mandrake installation.
Redhat is moving towards removing a lot of packages, and taking a minimalist approach to their distribution (ie, spend more $ for the more feature complete dist (ie inc powertools etc).
Whereas Mandrake just keeps getting better, and doesn't remove packages to a "seperate" pay for cd.
I *like* the way mandrake set up their distribution, and find it to be *faster* overall than the redhat dists.
My 4c
Allen
Re:So what's the future numbering scheme? (Score:1)
Re:The definition of mandrake (Score:1)
In the ancient world, mandrake root was used as a talisman for fertility. In fact, they're mentioned in the Bible for that purpose (sort of) - Genesis 30:14-16.
An amusing (but slightly OT) story (Score:3)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
Mandrake is specificly targeted as a pentium optimized, latest & greatest desktop distro. Don't complain because it isn't targeted for low end hardware. There are many distros & mini-distros targeted for such things.
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
Just don't check the "optimize IDE box" (Score:1)
Not wanting to argue or anything but... (Score:1)
Don't trust that name... (Score:1)
Maybe they should try something inert - like Helium =)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
Re:An amusing (but slightly OT) story (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:2)
As for servers, Mandrake ends up being my first choice for a Linux server, as it has everything I want to use... including Apache, mod_perl, mod_php, etc. And it comes up all configured, maybe need to uncomment a line here or there, but I usually have a usable server within 15 minutes, given fast drives.
my take on mandrake (Score:1)
one of the things that irked me the most with RedHat 6.2 and its contemporaries are their tendency to include an *old-school* version of Enlightenment-redhat 6.2 comes with E bloody 0.15.5! mandrake 7.0 came with 0.16.3, and i believe 7.1 will have 0.16.4. i usually find every time i am about to do some package maintenance/accounting, Mandrake releases either a new version or a new beta. it's wonderful.
i do like debian, don't get me wrong, i'm not a mandrake-only person, but for my desktop box right now, Mandrake is simply the best choice.
oh, and by the way, the hardware detection is *exquisite* for a linux installer. got everything first try for me, and for my friend's box, which has the most diverse selection of parts i have seen in some time. Mandrake gets bonus points for this.
Re:More stable than RedHat? I don't think so. (Score:2)
it says 'IDE Optimization' is experimental and may cause crash
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:2)
As for detecting CDROMs, I've installed Mandrake on dozens of machines, some even having the dreaded funky old Creative Labs CDROM connected to the sound card trick. (I have a lot of OLD hardware) And when none of that works, I always have a network card it can detect for a LAN based install.
Re:An amusing (but slightly OT) story (Score:1)
Sorry I'm writing you from windows (was playing starcraft again
Anyways, you can reconfigure X w/o X easily.
1) boot into run level 1. At the lilo prompt type "linux 1"
2) When you are in console mode backup your existing XF86Config file "cp
When you get back home just copy it back to haw it was before.
3) The you can run: Xconfigurator, or XF86Setup, or xf86config
4) After that's done and X is configured type "telinit 5"
That'll switch you to run level 5 and start the graphics logon for you. If for any reason it died it's b/c you either
a) screwed up on your X configuration or
b) the font server didn't start. (you can start it by hand by typing "/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs start" as root.
Cheers,
GeekBoy
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Superstition is a word the ignorant use to describe their ignorance. -Sifu
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
This is untrue. Anything above the pentium leve (ie, P2s and P3s, PPros, newer AMD chips, etc) will *not* benefit from Pentium "optimizations". Clone chip performance is usually below normal.
Even on actual Pentiums, the real-world performance increase is usually negligible. Only a few programs get a real speed increase.
pgcc (which is used for these Pentium "optimizations") doesn't compile all programs correctly, including at last check the kernel (which is interestingly enough reliant on some assembly bugs to compile).
What it comes down to is that this Pentium optimization crap is over-hyped and fairly ridiculous, and is generally perpetuated by people who want to seem like they really know their shit but who don't actually have their facts straight.
Re:slashdot is biased (Score:1)
nice work, though
-Andy Martin
Re:Not wanting to argue or anything but... (Score:1)
Not a big deal either way, but I do find the people who continiously make comments about "man, I am going to get moderated down for this one..." for no apparent reason somewhat annoying. Not enough to use my moderator points on them, though
RE: Distro ?'s (Score:1)
#2: SuSE has ReiserFS support, though you need to make a small
#3: See above
#4: Most current distros have support for the SBLive series (I've got one myself, kick@ss card), and for the older ISA cards, the distros usually have a tool to do the voodoo to get everything working. I've had probs with a few audio chipsets not working, but those are more cause the vendors have closed specs than anything else.
Take it from a guy who's used probably every major distro at some time during the past year (RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, Corel, Slackware, etc), hardware support has gone from basically nonexistant, to mediocre, to pretty decent in the past few years.
Best of luck!
Re:The definition of mandrake (Score:3)
1. Mandrake-the-distro's motif is a magic wand and top hat. Well, Mandrake-the-Magician didn't have a magic wand (he "gestured hypnotically") but he did have a top hat. It wasn't blue, though.
2. Mandrake-the-Magician had an assistant named Lothar. Mandrake-the-distribution includes a program called Lothar which bills itself as "the hardware central configuration tool." Superficially it looks a lot like Windows 98's Device Mangler; I haven't tried it to see how it works.
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Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
If you hate to sound like a jerk, why spout such drivel? slashdot-terminal is a highly paid sysadmin who is trying to make use of PC's in his network that only need to run in text mode.
or maybe hes trying to donate a usable computer to someone who can't afford it. Not that you care.
Re:Mandrake != Red Hat (Score:1)
Slackware and Debian don't use the same package file format (.deb vs
This sucks (Score:3)
An obervation.. (Score:2)
ResierFS? Pentium Optimizations.
Yes.. They do this. Good Bad? Who knows at least they have the kahunas to step up to the plate and give these products a chance on their distro. Do you see this? They are willing to push their distro to the limits
Okay... Everyone else is staying a bit more conservative right now. Not Mandrake. Give emm a little respect. Not to mention I hear Mandrake is pretty nice (office mate installed it recently) Okay.. I just wanted to say that
Jeremy
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:2)
The whole point of having a multitude of Linux distros is that they are targeted to different uses/users. Linux is different things to different people, and highly configurable. Revel in that! Versatility and variety are strengths, not weaknesses.
Mandrake's distro happens to be targeted at newer x86 boxes with bootable CD-ROM drives. If that's not what you have, then Mandrake may indeed be a poor choice for you. But where does the "cheating" part come in? Who gets hurt?
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Re:An amusing (but slightly OT) story (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:2)
Oh yeah, there are a lot of places where you can definitely see the RedHat influence. The Postscript printer test page is one outstanding example.
I've been using Mandrake for about six months and I like it a lot. I would recommend Mandrake for people coming in from Windows who want a friendly environment, and people who like having a GUI available so they can do more things at one (I fall into this category). I would recommend RedHat to people with older and more confined systems, or who really enjoy tinkering with their X configuration.
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Re:Redhat vs Mandrake (Score:1)
I have Mandrake 7.0 installed on one...
I've decided that the best distro is the first one that I can get USB ethernet working on. I've already run into some problems with Mandrake, so now I will try it on Redhat for a while.
Oh yeah... Mandrake has the advantage of Xemacs included on the cd, but they both have wonderful installation programs, and installed flawlessly for me.
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Re:Don't trust that name... (Score:1)
The bus came by and I got on
That's when it all began
There was cowboy Neal
At the wheel
Of a bus to never-ever land
Bochs (Score:1)
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
>PPC is nice but what about the plethora of other >processors?
Mandrake has ISOs for Alpha, i486 and Sparc.
Nobody is hurting for non Intel linux distrobutions. Red Hat supports Sparc and Alpha. Etc...
What else is there? Z80?
I found the solution... (Score:1)
great timing (Score:1)
Re:Don't trust that name... (Score:1)
So, I think gases are Mandrake's thing, and the use explosive stuff for betas. Or something
Someone pick on me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I know I'm downloading 7.1 right now, and after installing NVidia's new beer stuff, and Bero at RH's KDE2 rpm's, i'm gonna be a happy little user
[/me hugs Red Hat compatibility, I can use their own experimental rpm's
Sorry about this rant, it's been a boring day
Re:slashdot is biased (Score:1)
Re:Could someone.... (Score:1)
for a color postscript, you can get buy.com Lexmark Optra 40.
as of other stuffs, go read how-to's. i.e. RTFM!
Re:Any Distros have these Features?[Slightly Offto (Score:1)
D U H !
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
I remember installing Slackware back in 1993 using floppies on my parent's 486sx33. It only took a few floppies and you were up and running. I didn't put a CDROM in it until OS/2 v 3 came out. Slackware 7 still has some floppy support so you can get a base install up with networking.
I still have that machine (sitting in the closet) and with Mandrake's 486 release I think I'll see what that old machine can do today. Of course I'll have to use a boot floppy.
Re:Great Distro (Score:1)
We are both at either end of the Linux user spectrum, I develop, he tinkers. We both love it.
My gripe with installation thought is annoying. You can't set up dial-up and LAN through the installer, only one or the other. Fine for me, but annoying for my neighbour who has a small network in his house, and needs to alos dial out. He got a bit muddled up altogether trying to get pppd working. (Yes, I know you can use kppp, but I don't like it)
But, on the other hand, if this is my only real gripe about it, it's pretty amazing!
ISO to update, why no package difference? (Score:1)
What I'd like to see is the possibility of upgrading using only the package differences.
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:3)
The work box does a goodly amount of file serving. I use Samba to dole out antivirus updates (Sophos) to 3,500 NT PCs - this it does in an hour or so at 2-10Mb per client. This doesn't raise the run averages over 1 (it is a dual PIII 500 + 2Gb RAM). It does 802.1Q with a kernel patch to seven VLANs. There are normally up to 5 remote X sessions running and quite a few other things going on as well (eg NT server in a VMWare box). Up time is 80 odd days (I rebuilt the kernel to add VLAN tagging)
The point of the above diatribe is that I believe I have tested both sides of the coin and not found it wanting. Then again, if you spend long enough with any distro. or hand craft your own set up you can get all the bits together you need. However I have spent some time with other distros (admittedly older ones) and not found them to be so complete in terms of sensible customisations already applied out of the box.
There are, of course still a few rough edges but these are surprisingly minimal.
Another point I would like to make is that none of the bleeding edge stuff in this distro have caused me problems (what does a kernel oops look like anyway ?) The only apps that have dumped core on me are stuff that I have applied and KDevelop (which I had given a hard time)
Finally, why not trundle over to http://lwn.net - they have links to virtually all (sensible) distros and possibly links to some reviews as well as on goig developments.
Re:Why is is better ? + version numbering (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:2)
The Red Hat install lets you choose if you want a GUI at startup, or a console (i.e., runlevel 5 versus runlevel 3). It's a nice checkbox called "use graphical login". You can see it here [redhat.com] as well as the GUI X configuration during the Red Hat 6.2 install.
In short, Red Hat has a lot more than most happy Mandrake users seem to think... ;)
Kudos to Mandrake though, they're now including Helix GNOME! My biggest gripe about Mandrake was always that GNOME never seemed to work flawlessly - there were always issues with GNOME in Mandrake (like the i18n in GNOME wasn't working no matter how hard I tried, although the rest of my Mandrake test system was internationalised).
Maybe it was just that KDE gets a lot more tested than GNOME in Mandrake. Many KDE users complain about the reverse situation in Red Hat - there's always issues with KDE in Red Hat. I don't know, since I'm a happy GNOME user.
I hope though that they dont include the Helix with the latest development gnome-core 1.1.9... Virtually all other gnome-cores in the devel 1.1.x series I have tested were really, really stable, with the notable exception of 1.1.9, which has a big nasty memory leak =(
Distro's are there for choice ! (Score:1)
X Free 4 is more stable than 3.3.x (Score:1)
- Truetype fonts support out of the box (or out of the
- 3D support, including DRI and if you have a voodoo3, you can now get 3D in a window (at last)
- It's fully modularized: One example, when X Free starts up, it loads a module for scanning the PCI bus to find graphic cards, and when the scanning is complete, it just unloads the module... So memory usage is lower than 3.3.x and it also has the effect that X starts really faster...
BTW for those of you using a SuSE distro, rpm updates are available on ftp.suse.com
and if you need help with it ... (shameless plug) (Score:3)
100 pages about the ins and outs of LM, a user forum, an offline edition and a news letter.
cu
tom, MUO-webslave
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Re:Mandrake strong points... (Score:1)
-=Bob
Re:Great Distro (Score:1)
Re:Mandrake and stability... (Score:1)
I too have had the 7.0 crash on installs, but that was only on one (maybe 2) computers, thats a result of a bug that was fixed for 7.0-2
Frequently Mandrake crashes at the shutdown, this occured in both 6.1 and 7.0 for me
The other problems you've mentioned though, i have not had any problems with personally, however some of them may very well be a result of a frankenstien system. Then again, my system is made from various parts as well.
Re:is XFree 4.0 stable? (Score:2)
Re:is XFree 4.0 stable? (Score:2)
Cheers,
Tim
Re:The evils of forced optimization...and other st (Score:1)
stuborn, as you can get a pentium system for $100
or less (I know, I just picked up 2 IBM P133
systems to fill out some specific functions on
my home network)
.technomancer
Re:Mandrake 7.1 NOT for Sale???? (Score:1)
Peanut gallery (Score:1)
AHA! (Score:2)
Jeff K's website [somethingawful.com]
I am virtually certain that this is the same guy.
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a funny comment: 1 karma
an insightful comment: 1 karma
a good old-fashioned flame: priceless
Re:More stable than RedHat? I don't think so. (Score:2)
I'm running X4 on 2 boxes (personal workstation at home, and my workstation at work) on top of mandrake 7...works like a charm, haven't had it crash yet...and I installed it 2 days after it came out.
Besides...mandrake 7.1 has both X3.3.6 and X4 and lets you choose during install....don't bash that which you don't know.
Vox, who wishes he had the bandwith to be dlding beta ISOs
Supermount (Re: Great Distro) (Score:2)
Yeah, Supermount is built into the STANDARD kernel, but I installed the high security form of 7.0 and it seems Supermount support isn't built into that kernel. Sigh. (Is there a good reason for this? And the fact that
Mandrake doesn't seem as thoroughly tested as other distros, but I still use it on my workstation machine 'cause it's got so much cool new stuff... Of course, my server's another story.