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Munich Council Say Talk of LiMux Demise Is Greatly Exaggerated 190

Posted by timothy
from the that-was-the-beer-talking dept.
ndogg (158021) writes "The rumors of Munich's city government going back to Microsoft seem to have been greatly exaggerated. There was a review of the city's IT systems that was called for by the mayor, but it wasn't solely just to decide on whether to move back to Microsoft. And while there have been complaints about LiMux, they mostly seem to concern compatibility with OpenOffice.org, which may well be resolved by switching to LibreOffice."
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Munich Council Say Talk of LiMux Demise Is Greatly Exaggerated

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  • by MadX (99132) on Monday August 25, 2014 @06:06AM (#47746385)

    Honestly, if there is a remote possibility that a change back could help spread FUD, it's going to be pounced upon.

    • by MickyTheIdiot (1032226) on Monday August 25, 2014 @09:33AM (#47747581) Homepage Journal

      I was too busy to make comments when this story came up, but I've worked providing IT for offices for a good part of my life. You can get secretaries to bitch about anything. Moving to Windows so they can use the corporate-blessed Microsoft Office doesn't help that. You will still get bitching and moaning.

      You are always going to have problems with any type of "office" app because of the people using it.

      • by mspohr (589790) on Monday August 25, 2014 @12:58PM (#47749617)

        This reminds me of a story told by some very old time IBM reps.
        The Selectric typewriter was newly installed for an executive secretary. She complained that the keys were too hard to press. The full IBM support team came to investigate the complaint. They were originally flummoxed because there is no adjustment for key pressure on the typewriter. However, one of them had a brilliant idea. Inserting a screwdriver into the back of the typewriter, he turned it slowly one way then another while the secretary typed. Eventually she pronounced it "fixed".
        Now that's customer service.

    • by gweihir (88907) on Monday August 25, 2014 @12:52PM (#47749555)

      They have a stupid lawyer as new major that has zero understanding of IT, but is in bed with Microsoft. That is what is going on there. The "stupid" is because he makes claims without a shred of evidence and expects them to be believed. Even people from his own party in the city council are calling him a moron (in more polite, but no less clear terms).

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25, 2014 @06:13AM (#47746401)

    ...don't know why media keep talking only about Munich. It's not the only city that switched to Linux, several others have. The Italian city of Udine, for example:

    http://www.lffl.org/2014/07/co... [lffl.org]

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      ...and Turin:
      http://www.tomshw.it/cont/news... [tomshw.it]

      And many other smaller towns.

    • by geogob (569250) on Monday August 25, 2014 @07:54AM (#47746841)

      ...don't know why media keep talking only about Munich. It's not the only city that switched to Linux, several others have. The Italian city of Udine, for example:

      http://www.lffl.org/2014/07/co... [lffl.org]

      One reason, size...

      Munich : 1,4M
      Udine : 0.1M
      Turin : 0.9M

      source: wikipedia (because only order of magnitude matter).

      Furthermore, Munich is one of the most influential city in one of the most influential country of the European Union. From the size, Turin is not that far behind, but from the impact both cities cannot be compared. All this explains quite easily the media coverage.

      But its quite interesting to see more cities considering this alternative. And with large cities like Turin and Munich doing it effectively, a lot of smaller cities and communes will start to consider open source as a serious alternative.

      The open consideration of such an alternative has much more to do with psychology than with technical needs or limitations. Exactly why the media keep talking about Munich. Psychology. Marketing. And failing to understand this is a large part why open source alternative are still so far beyond what they could be.

      • by Darinbob (1142669)

        Another reason, Germany is seen as a technological/industrial leader. So to the people who know little about computing except what they see in an IT magazine, a German mark of approval is more important than an Italian thumbs up.

  • Old news (Score:3, Informative)

    by kevingolding2001 (590321) on Monday August 25, 2014 @06:19AM (#47746429)

    SN already covered this four days ago.
    https://soylentnews.org/articl... [soylentnews.org]
    I'm going to bed.

  • The English in the title is all wrong. It should read "Munich Council [says] talk of [Linux] demise is greatly exaggerated"... Editors? Are you there? Is Malda asleep at the wheel as usual?

    Greg

    • I don't know whether to think you're funny because of all your errors (each of your points is wrong), absurd because of all your errors (each of your points is wrong), or that you've just come out of cryostatis (Rob Malda hasn't been a part of Slashdot for a few years now).

    • by gweihir (88907)

      You are a moron. LiMux is the "Linux Munich" distribution.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25, 2014 @07:13AM (#47746633)

    Munix would have been way better.

    • Munix would have been way better.

      It is too close to being (and probably is) a derivitive name of UNIX.

    • by Mathinker (909784)

      They would have been sued for infringement by the rightsholders to Asterix.

      I kid you not... this is actually why we now have linux-laptops.net rather than the original mobilix.org (or mobilix.net, I don't remember anymore)...

  • I not sure how switching from Openoffice to Libreoffice is going to solve their problems. I know that Libreoffice has better compatibility and all, and I use it, but it's still rough to use vs MS Office.

    The example I use the most is Mail Merging. It's stupid proof in MS Office, but in Libreoffice it's a literal pain in the rear to do, especially if a Spreadsheet is involved.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by CastrTroy (595695)
      Personally, I find that MS Office is much better than Libre Office or OpenOffice.org in almost every way. That being said, I use OpenOffice.org at home because it's free and I really don't need an office suite for home use more than a couple times a year. I used to use them a lot back in high school and university because I was doing a lot of school work. For professional work, as long as the price is reasonable (and I believe that for MS Office it is), than I will use the best tool for the job. Ideologie
    • by Gramie2 (411713) on Monday August 25, 2014 @08:43AM (#47747159)

      ...but in Libreoffice it's a literal pain in the rear to do, especially if a Spreadsheet is involved.

      A literal pain in the rear? I think you're not doing it correctly.

  • >> they mostly seem to concern compatibility with OpenOffice.org

    This a problem of their own making, as a direct result of doing an incomplete rollout.

    Why are they even continuing to use or even allow Microsoft-proprietary formats in the first place?

    The could easily require that anyone submitting documents to them use ODF (or basically any open standard other than Microsoft).

  • I mainly use Writer, with an occasional hour of Impress work thrown in, and FWIW, LibreOffice 4.3 has reached that point where I'm not running into any compatibility issues with MS Office users anymore. I fully recommend the latest version of LibreOffice, it's come a long way. I've been using OpenOffice since version 3 (year 2008), got all my family and some of my friends to switch, and I think with the latest LibreOffice we've finally made it. I'm still using the .odt format myself but no longer have worri

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