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Linux 3.11 Released 98

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hypnosec writes "Linus Torvalds has just announced the release of Linux 3.11 as anticipated. Torvalds notes that the final version doesn't bring in a lot more than what is already present in the rc7, but it does include fixes — most of them in networking, file systems, and audio."
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Linux 3.11 Released

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  • by Hsien-Ko (1090623) on Monday September 02, 2013 @07:39PM (#44741855)
    That's what I want to know. Also, how many floppies?
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I think we're pretty much past that joke by now.
      A dozen articles on this website already mentioned that, after even Linus himself mentioned Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
      And to all the people using karma to 'thumbs up' those Workgroups comments: get a life.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      And to think it's taken the amateurs this long to reach the point where the professionals at Microsoft were in the mid 90's. If that doesn't demonstrate the difference between commercial and open-source software, nothing will.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 02, 2013 @08:07PM (#44742025)

      When Linus dies, he will be embalmed like Stalin and kept in a glass case for all the acolytes to file past... Eventually, like Stalin, most of his flesh will be replaced with wax. Indeed, secretly, Madame Tussaud will be asked to create a Torvald corpse to replace the real body, which will be shipped to a laboratory where technicians will attempt to reanimate Linus. This will be done with secret procedures gleaned from hacking Scientology's servers on how they did the same thing to Tom Cruise.

  • Will be forked: Linux 95 and Linux nt 3
  • * Kernel panic when I set my sleeping Thinkpad on my desk and plug in USB hub, displayport and power.

    * Bluetooth audio freaking out pretty much anytime

    * As soon as desktop apps start to push into swap memory, system freezes in endless swap loop (great way to wear out my SSD).

    * Any time the system is taxed more than 70%, mouse pointer gets jumpy

    Android would be a similar mess if Google had not laid down the law as to what kernel changes were necessary for mobile.

    • by epyT-R (613989)

      you could try upgrading your kernel to get access to newer driver revisions.

    • by Blaskowicz (634489) on Monday September 02, 2013 @10:36PM (#44742687)

      You obviously don't know what you're doing, and it's your fault for choosing junk, uncommon hardware. BTW, real men use a PS/2 mouse rather than new fangled USB thing. The cursor stays responsive in swap hell when it doesn't have to go through a USB stack.

    • Please tell us what distro you're using so we can start a flame war. :D

      On a more serious note, How do you know it's a kernel panic? Is it in the logs? Does it drop to a terminal saying it? Except for the kernel panic part, I'd say that most of these things seem to be GUI and sound related. Have you checked the nice values for those systems. It could be that their "process priority" is the same as everything else. Most distros try to make sure that essential user mode processes and drivers are running

      • 3.8 is what Ubuntu is stuck on at the moment I believe, probably what he is using... Their kernel updates are pretty barebones too, it is basically just the plain old 3.8.0 kernel. GP, you should at least try a fedora liveCD or something, they package a pretty solid build of Linux these days. And if you were using the latest Ubuntu version, I'll just say I had a bunch of issues with it too, so please try something else.
  • Still a long way to go to Linux 95.
  • by GrahamJ (241784)
    "Fuck you," he added.
  • Kernel Newbies (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 02, 2013 @10:08PM (#44742579)

    If you're going to post Linux release announcements, remember to link the Kernel Newbies page, since they document the big changes.
    http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.11

    • Re:Kernel Newbies (Score:4, Informative)

      by NotBorg (829820) on Tuesday September 03, 2013 @04:51AM (#44744447)
      And don't be an asshole like this guy who provided a URL that you can't click on. http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.11 [kernelnewbies.org]
      • by Anonymous Coward

        The link says:

        Another use is for creating an initially unreachable file, write whatever you want into it, fchmod()/fchown()/fsetxattr() it as you wish, then atomically link it in, already fully set up.

        But it doesn't mention which system call to use for the last step. Which system call can be used to create a new link in the file system based on an open file descriptor?

  • I should probably go take a closer look. I've been disappointed so many times, though, that my expectations are not high.

    I'm sure someone has already said this, but the fact that this is Linux 3.11 means that the next version will be Linux NT.

    • by Burz (138833)

      I'm sure someone has already said this, but the fact that this is Linux 3.11 means that the next version will be Linux NT.

      And it really should be.

  • by deviated_prevert (1146403) on Tuesday September 03, 2013 @01:34AM (#44743499) Journal
    Sound fixes and hardware support [indiana.edu] are moving along at full steam. From what I am reading most of the problems with Dell laptops should be ironed out and some nasty problems with HDA intel on Baytrails are finally fixed.

    What is really fantastic is the extended support for pro usb devices from Roland and Yamaha. It should be very possible to create a really effective cheap laptop DAW running Linux tuned for RT audio without having to mess install drivers the way you do with Windows. Not that you could not use these devices in the past it was just difficult to set them up correctly because alsa had trouble working with most Roland mixers and the like the only way to do it sometimes was using a stupid setup that was flaky as hell.

    I hope this kernel version is adopted quickly by the Ubuntu Studio guys, but if necessary I will roll my own so I can use Roland usb devices with my laptop!

    • by Flammon (4726)

      I'm sure Saucy will run on 3.11. There's already a release in the mainline PPA.

      http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/ [ubuntu.com]

      • I'm sure Saucy will run on 3.11. There's already a release in the mainline PPA.

        http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/ [ubuntu.com]

        Thanks, great, think I will do a complete re-install though as there are a few things I have messed up trying to compile a specialized ffmpeg dlna stuff. What I am trying to do is create a real time dlna output with audio straight from input. Not an easy task. Would make a neat interface if you could create a stream directly from ffmpeg recording input. I am sure it can be done with existing libraries but scripting it is not easy.

  • Most people do not realize that Linux even exists, yet without it, the internet will be a costly place. The common would not be able to have any money left if he/she bought a computer and software. But today, it's possible to not go bankrupt and still buy a nice computer. Now, I know that many people, me included, regards Mac OS X as one of the greatest and most innovative operating systems ever made, but Linux is still much, much more important. Without it, computers would be toys for the sort of people wh

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