OpenLogic Backs Linux On Windows Azure With SLA 46
MikeatWired writes "OpenLogic announced on Thursday that it will provide CentOS Linux — and service-level agreement (SLA) support — through Microsoft's new Windows Azure gallery. Yesterday, Microsoft announced support for Linux instances on its cloud service, among other cloud news, in what Wired Enterprise's Cade Metz dubbed an Amazonian facelift. OpenLogic's Steven Grandchamp writes in a blog post that for 'enterprise developers and IT folks who are multi-source and multi-platform, today's announcement is good news. The Windows and Linux worlds take one step towards each other.' However, Grandchamp notes that despite Microsoft 'maturing its views on open source' with 'significant work' with Node.js, Hadoop, and Samba, the open source community 'will meet [Linux on Azure] with overall wariness and skepticism.' 'Some will view this with hope and a positive step; others will continue to be cynical,' he writes. 'For me, it's part of a larger overall process that continues to signal open source coming of age. What major vendor doesn't have an open source story now? It's such an ingrained part of development, from legacy to mobile to cloud, that we can't live without and we are figuring out how to love living with it.'"
What OS is Azure based on? (Score:2)
Re:What OS is Azure based on? (Score:4, Informative)
It is a modified version of the NT kernel.
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The instances themselves don't seem to be modified all that much. Heck, you can RD into them.
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[citation needed]
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i think it based off of hyper-V/custom mod'ed nt
What an idiot (Score:5, Insightful)
Open source isn't just now coming of age, and we're not figuring out how to love "living with it". Open source came of age in the 90's, and we've been loving it, not merely living with it ever sense. "We" being people that actually get it. It's people like yourself and Microsoft who are finally understanding its power and coming to a new age in your own evolution, one that can acknowledge how much better this model is than your own. It's sink or swim time for you guys at this point: embrace open source or continue dying a slow death.
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I commend you for the use of "M$" despite Microsoft trolls deriding it.
Microsoft has nothing of any importance other than monopoly power they inherited from IBM and money they got through abuse of that monopoly power. Technologically they are just as bankrupt as they are morally.
Re:What an idiot (Score:5, Informative)
Except this really has nothing to do with open source. MS offers a computing cloud, and they offer various options on the computing cloud because they want to make money. Some of those things happen to be open source.
MS open sourcing one of their major product lines would be open source news. This is 'cloud provider has wide variety of services'. It's not going to make open source OS's mainstream on the desktop, and there's a wide array of open source software for windows. Azure is (for the moment) an enterprise product, for enterprise users, and you're right, they've been readily using open source for some things since the 90's.
Microsoft never got much past 50% of the server market, and I think they're down around 40% these days, depending on how you count it. Considering azure is basically a giant platform service they couldn't aim to be a serious single solutions provider business and only host windows.
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Are you kidding? MS never chooses to simply "make money" on a market. Every market they enter they are only interested in supporting their other monopolies. If that makes them lose money on that maket, well, life is tough...
The current anouncement could very well be an exception, and a huge one. Of course, it could also be a trap.
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No fucking kidding? How long has Linux been used in commercial operations? How long has it been put on embedded and dedicated platforms? Hell, how long has friggin' BSD and Emacs been around? Fuck, you'd think Open Source had been invented yesterday.
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You do realize configuring CentOS and RedHat are identical... minus the licensing cost. right?
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Congratulations, you missed the point of CentOS, or rather, RHEL. RHEL/CentOS isn't supposed to be bleeding edge and full of fancy features. It's designed to work, being secure and stable for many years on end.
You did know that CentOS is basically a 1:1 open source release of RHEL, right?
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s/open source/subscription-free/
LINUX with a Windows Hypervisor. (Score:5, Insightful)
Let me get this straight.
You're going to take and scale, a per license based hypervisor, that is admitted to be fairly immature, commercial product with poor scaling abilities and couple it with LINUX GPL licensed based guests which, you can throw away all of the benefits of open engineering, all of the GPL based engineering which is far superior to anything corporation has ever concieved, on a scale that no corporation can match which is the LINUX open source GPL kernel. ...running the largest computing machines ever concieved of by man so far..._ALL_ of them run LINUX.
THEY DO NOT RUN WINDOWS.
Is there something I am missing here?
Next thing you are going to tell me is that central banking histroically has been a major win for all countries that ever adopted it resulting in extremly stable currencies and fair trade for all. ;-)
Didn't Einstein say that the definition of insanity is trying something over and over and over again, that has a logical single outcome, yet somehow something different is expected?
So why would we try to scale commercial software when it doesn't work in the private sector, on a cloud and simply just use LINUX?
I personal response is that obviously, these commercial Azure cloud companies must be INSANE.
-Hack
PS: Central Banking is insane too, always destroys civilizations but they keep doing it saying..."Oh, but _THIS_ _TIME_ it will be different."
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Is there something I am missing here?
Pricing?
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and couple it with LINUX GPL licensed based guests which, you can throw away all of the benefits of open engineering
How does the hypervisor choice affect the fact that your guest is GPL licensed? Are you supposed to stop looking at the source once you run a Linux VM on hyperv?
all of the GPL based engineering which is far superior to anything corporation has ever concieved, on a scale that no corporation can match which is the LINUX open source GPL kernel
Dogma. Recommend critical thinking instead.
THEY DO NOT RUN WINDOWS. Is there something I am missing here?
As others mentioned -- price. But its in fact an orthogonal topic. Linux's FOSS roots make it adaptable, and it's been adapted for cluster computing of the supercomputing / number-crunching variety. That type of scalability is different than th
Except for GUI Polish (Score:1)
It is only advocated by people who are too lazy to learn Unix.
If or when should folks move from AWS? (Score:2)
Amazon Web Services has been around for a while now.. they have a pretty robust line of tools ...If this move by microsoft.. and others.. to try and get more opensourcey stuff on the azure cloud is a success.. when should people start looking to move stuff to the azure cloud ?
what is the tipping point ? is there one?
from my point of view it seems like that is a long way off..
It is called "MEETOO" (Score:1)
Why CentOS instead of Redhat? (Score:2)
Just reading wikipedia's description: " CentOS exists to provide a free enterprise class computing platform and strives to maintain 100% binary compatibility with its upstream source, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)." - Why not just use Red Hat directly?
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Just reading wikipedia's description: " CentOS exists to provide a free enterprise class computing platform and strives to maintain 100% binary compatibility with its upstream source, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)." - Why not just use Red Hat directly?
Because that way they don't have to pay Red Hat anything.
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Because that way they don't have to pay Red Hat anything.
I think they are going to find it tough to keep Enterprise-level SLAs using Centos vice Red Hat. Anytime there is a major security vulnerability, rather than waiting on Red Hat to release an Erratum, they are going to have to wait on Red Hat to release AND then wait on the CentOS folks (who have no financial motivation to do things with any urgency) to take what Red Hat released and rebuild it for CentOS.
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I think they are going to find it tough to keep Enterprise-level SLAs using Centos vice Red Hat.
They're already running on a Windows hypervisor. It's not like switching from RHEL to CentOS is going to affect their SLAs more than that will! :)
Rockefeller and JP Morgan (Score:1)
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Well, look where the company management :
http://www.openlogic.com/company/team/ [openlogic.com]
The first one ( COO ) is some ex-manager from Microsoft. Does Nokia/Elop ring a bell ?
I think Microsoft realised that RHEL is one of their serious competitor, and so want to erode their user database with such a move. I would not be surprised to see Microsoft as a investor of Openlogic ,and the fact that Olex interoperate with Exchange does seems weird.