The Real Truth About Oracle's 'New' Kernel 177
An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday at OpenWorld, Oracle announced a 'new' Enterprise kernel for its so-called Unbreakable Linux. What's the real truth? The company is simply sticking a 2.6.32-based kernel on top of its re-branded Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone and trying to spin it as a new and innovative development."
Modifications against mainline (Score:5, Informative)
People may want to check the LWN discussion on the topic, which includes comments from Chris Mason and others concerning their improvements over vanilla 2.6.32:
http://lwn.net/Articles/406242/
Re:So what? (Score:3, Informative)
Not a troll, but a pointing out the obvious. The "major" announcement was nothing more than 2.6.18+patches -> 2.6.32.
What doesn't get mentioned is that the oracle kernel would invalidate any ISV certifications that oracle's linux might have "inherited" from RHEL...
Nope. (Score:1, Informative)
We bought the support from them. No penguin.
Oracle passes off Red Hat's work as their own. (Score:3, Informative)
This could be glossing over quite a bit of useful work for Oracles customers.
You are glossing over the point of the article.
1. Redhat writes lots of great Linux stuff that make the kernel better (11.6% of the kernel).
2. Oracle passes it off as their own. (They only contribute 1.3%, less that 1/10 that of Red Hat).
Oracle support sucks (Score:3, Informative)
Anecdotal evidence, but where I work there were some people using pro*fortran to access Oracle databases from Fortran. pro*fortran was dropped between Oracle 8 and 8.1
It took six months of digging for the Oracle support people to finally tell us they had dropped pro*fortran from their product. Everyone kept saying "sure, we support Fortran, but that's not my specialty, let me get an expert for you"
When the technical support people don't know their own product, what worth is it paying for that it?
Re:Uhh, isn't this what Oracle customers pay for? (Score:3, Informative)
They patched quite a few things, but at the same time thought it important to be as close to mainline as possible. Here's the lowdown from Chris Mason [lwn.net] over at LWN:
Re:But how is this not fraud? (Score:3, Informative)
This is wildly misleading. Almost everything Red Hat ships in Enterprise Linux is not from Red Hat. Projects like GCC, RPM package manager, Gnome, Glibc, KDE are all too big for Red Hat to develop on its own. The only things I can think of that are completely from Red Hat are layered products like Directory Server or projects where Red Hat has maintainership and majority contributions, like NetworkManager.
Having said that, I can't think of a kernel contribution report in recent years where Red Hat was not #1.
To call it a "new" kernel it has to be something less than nine months old [kernel.org].