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Games Knoppix 204

Posted by michael
from the go-together-like-chocolate-and-peanut-butter dept.
Quiberon writes "A distribution of Knoppix loaded with games has a bootable CD with 700 MB of open-source games, 3d support for NVIDIA, ATI, and Intel Extreme, gamepad support for XWindows. uni-kl is University of Kaiserlautern, the first on the list for distributing SuSE fixes - they are good. Every kid should have one for Christmas morning."
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Games Knoppix

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  • by holymoo (660095) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:32AM (#11180630)
    Interesting a distrobution that actually has support for a ati video card, where 3d is already setup. Heck, its worth downloading just for that.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:34AM (#11180633)
    Linux best suited platform for PC games!
  • Am I correct... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by CrackedButter (646746) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:37AM (#11180641) Homepage Journal
    in thinking that Michael is not celebrating xmas? He seems to be doing his duty as a hardcore geek by staying here and posting us stories for us lonely buggers to read?
    • Yeah...I'm waiting for my lazy family to wake up...What is your excuse?
    • by Quixote (154172) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @11:41AM (#11180886) Homepage Journal
      It's called automation, dude. I think the stories are just queued up, and posted at about 1 hour intervals during the day, and less frequently in the night. The times are adjusted a little, randomly, to apply a veneer of human touch.

    • i'm sorry to inform you but whatever you may think choosing some links from a random irc channel or linkblog and doing two seconds worth of commenting hardly needs that much effort.

      not that hard to squeeze in on a day that you would be sitting on your ass all day long anyways!
    • Should we call /. Scrouge Dot? Wow! This years Christmas isn't all that because important people are missing, but man alive, people are certainly bitter about it.
  • GPL? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mowler2 (301294) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:38AM (#11180642)
    Isnt it a GPL violation to ship the Linux kernel together with nvidia binary modules?
    • There may be ways around it. Consider that NTFS is supported on Knoppix by running the MicroSoft NTFS drivers off of a Windows filesystem.
      • by fm6 (162816)
        And if they distributed the Microsoft ntfs.sys file they'd really be in trouble, since they don't have a license for it. There are two ways around this: you make it easy for people to remaster the CD using their own copies of ntfs.sys, or you use a third-party driver.
    • Re:GPL? (Score:3, Informative)

      by un1xl0ser (575642)
      It said it had nVidia support, not the drivers from nVidia. I would suspect they are using Open Source drivers (nv module).
      • Re:GPL? (Score:5, Informative)

        by pmjordan (745016) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @11:33AM (#11180864)
        It says 3D support, so it must be the closed source ones. However, as others have pointed out, the nvidia modules aren't being distributed as part of the kernel, but simply taint it at runtime when they are loaded.

        ~phil
    • Re:GPL? (Score:1, Troll)

      Who cares? Have a merry Christmas and go play the games and quit complaining!
    • Re:GPL? (Score:3, Informative)

      by m50d (797211)
      It's OK under the "mere aggregation" clause
      • It's OK under the "mere aggregation" clause

        That's not exactly right. There is no clause in the GPL granting you the power to aggregate- rather, that section just reminds how copyright law works. Aggregating is never a copyright infringement, so even if the GPL didn't mention it, you could still do this.
    • No, because Linus has given permission for it.
    • Re:GPL? (Score:3, Informative)

      by r00zky (622648)
      In the Knoppix distribution there is a script that downloads and automagically installs the nvidia binary driver.

      Dunno about this one.
    • Re:GPL? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by node 3 (115640) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @02:20PM (#11181418)
      Isnt it a GPL violation to ship the Linux kernel together with nvidia binary modules?

      Not at all. The GPL only applies to GPL'd code, and any binaries resulting from compiling that code. The non-free NVIDIA binary is not under the GPL, and does not modify either the Linux kernel source code, nor does it modify the resulting binary, so they are entirely seperate (from a license stand-point) and can co-exist on the same CD (or DVD, or tarball, or web site, what have you).
      • Re:GPL? (Score:3, Informative)

        Mod parent up. He's the only one who provided an accurate answer to the question.

        I'd also add that nVidia's license does allow redistribution through physical media.
  • bubble (Score:1, Informative)

    by Cen'Rec'Namor (842651)
    Including frozen bubble the most adictive game ever made.
  • by Gopal.V (532678) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:44AM (#11180652) Homepage Journal
    What games on that CD ?. Is it just the ordinary TuxRacer ... Or have they included the demos for Quake3 and stuff like that ?. (It's already slashdotted).

    Thank god the the download won't get slashdotted - BitTorrent tracker looks great (quite enough seeds).
    • by Simon (S2) (600188) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @10:35AM (#11180749) Homepage
      google cache [64.233.183.104]
    • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, 2004 @10:59AM (#11180786)
      Castle-Combat
      Globulation 2
      Hatman
      Kobodeluxe
      Miniracer
      Pingus
      Rafkill
      Lots of small games
      Boson
      Bsdgames
      Crimson Fields
      Dosbox (Emulator)
      Empire
      Konquest
      Mangoquest
      Pysol
      Tuxcart
      Zsnes (Emulator)
      Ace-of-penguin
      Battle for Wesnoth
      Bzflag, Bzflag-Server
      Clanbomber
      Crossfire (GTK client)
      Enigma
      Foobillard
      Freeciv, Freeciv-server
      Freesci
      Gltron
      Gnuchess
      Jump'n'Bump (joystick support patch, special graphic patches)
      Ksokoban
      Lbreakout2
      Lgeneral
      Miniracer
      Nethack
      Netpanzer
      Neverball
      Tuxracer
      Xgalaga
      XMame, XMess (Emulators)
      Xpilot

      If I meet the idiot responsible for this lameness filter I'm going to kick his ass.

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      • by rtaylor (70602) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @12:52PM (#11181118) Homepage
        If I meet the idiot responsible for this lameness filter I'm going to kick his ass.

        You don't get it, the lameness filter only allows lame posts to get through. Your post was perfectly reasonable until the lameness filter forced you to make the post lame. See how it works now?
      • by mortonda (5175) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @01:08PM (#11181185)

        Here's a try at another version:

        • Castle-Combat
        • Globulation 2
        • Hatman
        • Kobodeluxe
        • Miniracer
        • Pingus
        • Rafkill
        • Lots of small games
        • Boson
        • Bsdgames
        • Crimson Fields
        • Dosbox (Emulator)
        • Empire
        • Konquest
        • Mangoquest
        • Pysol
        • Tuxcart
        • Zsnes (Emulator)
        • Ace-of-penguin
        • Battle for Wesnoth
        • Bzflag, zflag-Server
        • Clanbomber
        • Crossfire (GTK client)
        • Enigma
        • Foobillard
        • Freeciv, Freeciv-server
        • Freesci
        • Gltron
        • Gnuchess
        • Jump'n'Bump (joystick support patch, special
        • graphic atches)
        • Ksokoban
        • Lbreakout2
        • Lgeneral
        • Miniracer
        • Nethack
        • Netpanzer
        • Neverball
        • Tuxracer
        • Xgalaga
        • XMame, XMess (Emulators)
        • Xpilot

        Amazing, it stil won't allow it when it the list is all one html list. How in the world does it do that? It must strip and interpret all html and then apply the filter. Lame lamenes filter.

        However, the above sentance is enough to fix it, and the list looks better, too. :)

        • The lameness they're filtering against is a certain kind of feeble troll that used to be popular around here, when somebody realized that a lot of posts with a lot of short lines made a discussion impossible to read.

          You might be able to get around the filter by putting your HTML list on one long line. But if you can, that's a bug, since a troll could do that too. I'd suggest just putting long lists like yours in a simple wrapped paragraph. It doesn't look as cool, but it isn't particularly hard to read.


        • Yet another victim of the lameness filter.
          Please consider clicking on my sig link, and try to do something (if only a small something) to get this infernal, oppressive, arbitrary piece of code removed.

          The last time I ran afoul of the lameness filter.. I reacted less.. elegantly.. than you :)

          -Laxitive
  • December 25, @08:30AM "Every kid should have one for Christmas morning."
  • Great... (Score:4, Funny)

    by jawtheshark (198669) * <slashdot&jawtheshark,com> on Saturday December 25, 2004 @09:55AM (#11180671) Homepage Journal
    Now that's one fine Chistmas present we are giving to the admin of that server... A slashdotting of the finest.

    What a beautiful present...

  • Anyone a mirror? (Which q#%$^%& says games on ./ at Christmas?)
  • Yeah, you heard me. This is a noble idea but who wants to play Ktris, Gtris, ChrisTris, etc?
  • Not totally new (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Morphix (http://www.morphix.org/) has a game iso as well.
    (Morphix is a modular live-cd distro based on Knoppix in the first place which comes in several flavours like light-gui (xfce4), heavy-gui(gnome/kde) and a game iso).
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, 2004 @10:18AM (#11180725)
    A bittorrent tracker is available at: http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/ [uni-kl.de]

    Enjoy!
  • Confused (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    uni-kl is University of Kaiserlautern, the first on the list for distributing SuSE fixes - they are good

    I'm confused, this is knoppix or SuSE? What does being "first on the list for distributing SuSE fixes" mean towards making knoppix? Being a mirror doesn't give you any more credibility than being a Kazaa node.

  • Checking out the comments on the tracker, it seems this could be a German version. Can anyone confirm/deny? I've got a nice DL groove on - and only unused bandwidth is truly wasted - but I'm hoping my interest was not piqued for naught.

    --
    Dear Santa:
    Please confer with my better half before granting any of my Christmas wishes that might involve hookers, booze, and/or twinkies.
    -Matic
  • ...should finally live again when I install Knoppix to the hard drive.

    I only got the NVidia drivers installed right one time, and I could never do it right again.

    It's actually pretty cool to have the acclerated video drivers install this easily.
  • I am amazed. I can acctualy scroll down among the comments and not notice a godzillion posts pointing out that it's called X Window, not XWindows. What is slashdot coming too? Next thing you know you will be able to spall things wrung and nit get spalling nazis after yo.
  • According to the site they are only producing a CD version, but I hope that at some point they will make a DVD compilation with all the games from all the CD releases, plus some more. That would be an impressive DVD.

    Hopefully they will have room for fish-fillets on the DVD edition!
  • 'xsnow' on the wallpaper, too. Animated snow and reindeer.
  • For those who may be looking for other stuff then games, another knoppix contains a lot of these games, and a some very usefull tools. Its called Knoppix STD (Security Tool Distribution) http://www.knoppix-std.org/ [knoppix-std.org]
  • I'd love it (Score:2, Informative)

    by canofbutter (843238)
    If I was still a kid I'd love my parents to give me a Knoppix CD: it would show that not only did they know what it was (at least sort of), but they'd have known how to get it and burn it. That much computer literacy is the best gift one can give...
    • I am still a kid, and my Christmas gift is I've had to teach my parents to import CDs into iTunes...several times.

      What part of "Put the cd in and click import" don't they understand?

      Or maybe it's just my parents that are like this...my mum just spent 15 minutes trying to find the start menu on my computer...I then pointed to the line at the top of the screen that says "This is lachlan.(none) (Linux i686 2.6.8.1).

      That said, I wouldn't mind it if they could mirror Portage for me ;)
  • Morphix anyone? (Score:4, Informative)

    by m50d (797211) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @11:28AM (#11180855) Homepage Journal
    Morphix has had a "gamer" version for some time now. Get it from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/morphix/Morphix Combined-Gamer-0.4-1.iso?download [sourceforge.net]
  • Language, 3d (Score:2, Informative)

    by Quiberon (633716)
    It's easy enough to make it English (knoppix lang=en or knoppix26 lang=en if you like 2.6 kernels). 3d support is proper, i.e. 'nvidia' not 'nv'. Believed legal; you can separate out the 'nvidia' if you want an untainted version. Besides, which grinch would disagree with a free distribution ?

    Nothing to do with SuSE, just pointing out that uni-kl have a track record of being trustworthy.

  • by Vladan (829136) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @12:13PM (#11180984)
    Let me be the +%d Informative karma whore and post the actual contents of the Knoppix Games CD before we all rush off and go download 700MB over our feeble North American DSL/cable connections.

    From here [linuxcentral.com], the newest games on the CD are:

    Castle-Combat [linux-games.com]
    Globulation 2 [ysagoon.com]
    Hatman [linuxlots.com]
    Kobodeluxe [olofson.net]
    Miniracer [sourceforge.net]
    Pingus [seul.org]
    Rafkill

    You need at least 256 MB RAM to use your accelerated video card. That should give you a taste of what's on the CD. Personally, I don't think it's worth it. It contains a lot of nostalgic arcade games written by fans of those games for other fans. Also, the GamesKnoppix distro organizer has himself said there are no violent games on this CD.

    On an unrelated matter, Merry Christmas

    Now here's the rest of the games on the CD:
    • Boson
    • Bsdgames
    • Crimson Fields
    • Dosbox (Emulator)
    • Empire
    • Konquest
    • Mangoquest
    • Pysol
    • Tuxcart
    • Zsnes (Emulator)
    • Ace-of-penguin
    • Battle for Wesnoth
    • Bzflag, Bzflag-Server
    • Clanbomber
    • Crossfire (GTK client)
    • Enigma
    • Foobillard
    • Freeciv, Freeciv-server
    • Freesci
    • Gltron
    • Gnuchess
    • Jump'n'Bump (joystick support patch, special graphic patches)
    • Ksokoban
    • Lbreakout2
    • Lgeneral
    • Miniracer
    • Nethack
    • Netpanzer
    • Neverball
    • Tuxracer
    • Xgalaga
    • XMame, XMess (Emulators)
    • Xpilot
    • I downloaded the Knoppix Games CD a few weeks ago and I must say I was thoroughly impressed. My Nvidia card was immediately detected and tux racer ran like a champ. The only thing I missed the first few times was to set the language to english (kinda confusing when I had to press 'z' for yes at the load NVidia module prompt and change the language settings in alot of the games).

      I was particularly impressed with Globulation 2. It's an RTS akin to Warcraft/Starcraft, different in that you don't give
    • OK, now who is going to make a companion list of what games all these are clones of?
  • by Klowner (145731) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @12:20PM (#11181009) Homepage
    So I googled Kaiserslautern, and sure enough, it's the sister city of my crappy home town. [cityofdavenportiowa.com]

    Apparently I live in the ugly, less popular, dumber sister city.

    (I'm sure everyone found that tidbit of knowledge absolutely wonderful)
  • by cinemabaroque (783205) <sophist112358@yahoo.com> on Saturday December 25, 2004 @12:27PM (#11181032) Journal
    It would be practical for someone to write linux games and sell them so that the cd is a live cd and immediatly launched the game when it started, turning your computer into a sort of console system. This way, as the developer, you would have a custom OS to run/design your game in.
    • This way, as the developer, you would have a custom OS to run/design your game in.

      And you can support maybe 50% of the user's hardware, and never ever add drivers for newer things, etc, so the games become useless after a few years...
      • by Belial6 (794905) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @02:28PM (#11181432)
        I always thought that a 2 CD system would be perfect to 'Consolize' the PC and specifically linux. At the prices of CD drives today, it would be pretty inexpensive to have two CD\DVD drives in a system. You could then make the hard drive optional. The first drive would be the OS/Driver drive. The second drive would be the game drive. You would have something like Knoppix to initialize all of your hardware in drive 1, and if there is a disk in drive 2 it would automatically load like a console.

        This would give all the benefits of the console. Specifically, put the disk in and it runs. No seeing the OS at all. It would also allow for simple upgrade when new hardware came out. Just replace the Disk 1, and all of the Disk 2's still work.

        Heck, the Disk one could even be a USB/SD/Compact Flash drive. Then people would freak out about the second CD. They would just see the system as "upgradeable".

        With this system, geeks could 'roll there own' game system. And, white box dealers could very easily put the effort in once to make their first "console", and just make copies for the hundred other systems they sell.
    • by Noodlenose (537591) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @05:15PM (#11181948) Homepage Journal
      You could just use a mini distro like Damn small Linux [damnsmalllinux.org]. With 57 MB for the full version (which I'm sure could be further stripped and then added the 3d drivers) that leaves you 400 MB for data. Not bad. Driver support / Hardware support could be as simple as a monthly "apt-get update".

      Mmmh. *gets out his coding gloves and yells for coffee*...

  • Is there anything like Games Knoppix for PowerPC?
    • I think there's a Mac Knoppix; hunt in http://www.knoppix.net/forum/ . You can get source for all the games and build them for Mac , of course, also.
  • I am no Linux guru, far from it.

    When loading the 2.4.x kernel, my nVidia works just fine, but no sound. Despite being detected, my Audigy won't work.

    If I load the 2.6.x kernel, sound work nice. but 3D acceleration won't load. Maybe someone can help?

    I find it amazing that everything else can load properly on autoboot with no configuration at all, even windows with all its drivers can't do that.

    By the way, if you give this to someone, be sure to be there the first time they go for Google.com, th
    • Re:Dilema. (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Azureflare (645778)
      Have you tried disabling Plug N Play OS in your bios (you can also pass pnp=off to the kernel in the /etc/lilo.conf file), as well as passing noapic to the kernel?

      Happened to me recently on this mobo, nvidia drivers wouldn't get loaded unless I did this.

      It might also be as simple as you needing to have a kernel-source installed which matches your running kernel (if you use an rpm based system, rpm -q kernel-source should do it, or rpm -q kernel-source-2.6 on the recent mandrake). If you're not on a rpm b

    • Re:Dilema. (Score:2, Interesting)

      by towndowner (813250)
      regarding your audigy, did you check that it's appropriate output channels are unmuted and volume raised? often by default they're muted and potted down on startup. and audigy has so many channels in its mixing matrix that it takes me five minutes to figure out which one's the main out.

  • by yem (170316) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @04:08PM (#11181746) Homepage
    If you can convince the nice man in the tech store to let you boot the CD, you could run a set of linux gaming tests on each of the PCs you're considering for purchase.

    Damned if I can find any comparisons of mobile 3d performance in linux so this is pretty much my only option.

    Pity they couldn't load it up with the Quake 3 and UT200x demos which would be more useful.
  • by Master of Transhuman (597628) on Saturday December 25, 2004 @06:04PM (#11182100) Homepage
    700MB of games!

    That would be even a greater time-waster than my obsession with downloading pictures and videos of the Corrs and Angelina Jolie...

  • Every poor kid. Any kid with $20 to spare will be better off buying a decently written, imaginative, properly thought out game for their game boy.

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