Progeny Releases Linux Platform Manager 87
IanMurdock writes "Given your previous interest in Progeny, I thought you would be interested in our new Platform Services product direction and the release or our Linux Platform Manager tool. Briefly, Platform Services provides componentized versions of Red Hat and Debian, and Linux Platform Manager allows people to easily assemble these components into custom distributions. You can read more at http://www.progeny.com.
More information on our new direction can be found in the Platform Services whitepaper."
Pick A Product (Score:5, Interesting)
What is this, version 3 or 4 of 'This is what Progeny does'?
Re:Pick A Product (Score:4, Funny)
What is this, version 3 or 4 of 'This is what Progeny does'?
They're quite adept at putting out white papers!
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Isn't this otherwise known as a death certificate?
Re:Pick A Product (Score:1)
"Isn't this otherwise known as a death certificate?"
Nah, it's otherwise known as prostate cancer (or ovarian cancer for women); no need to kill you to prevent you to reproduce, just neuter you or make you a geek
SlashAds (Score:3, Insightful)
It's hard to keep the bias to a minimum when the story is submitted by the company.
Re:SlashAds (Score:3, Insightful)
When you read, say, Computer Shopper, do you complain when they run an article about the
Re:SlashAds (Score:3, Interesting)
A little disclaimer, "submitted by Ian Whatshisface, founder of Progeny", wouldn't have hurt either.
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heh. Yeah, Slashdot is neutral all right.
Re:SlashAds (Score:2)
A quick look at my comment would suggest "no". But it does complain like an old lady when anyone else is not up to the required standard (of which Slashdot itself does not meet)
Shameless Plug (Score:5, Interesting)
BTW - What's up with all the Error 500's? Can't the Slashcode guys test the code before pushing it to the 'production' server (btw - these ARE the guys that complain about crashes in windows, then produce slashcode)?
Re:Shameless Plug (Score:2, Insightful)
and aid in making linux distributions more commonplace and easy to configure. I have installed and configured just about all every distro out there and still find something lacking. If I can get it modularized or configged as the post describes it may put me over the hurdles I have been facing. And as new features and ease of setup issues are resolved the platform becomes more powerful and usable by all. Isn't this the point of Op
Re:Shameless Plug (Score:3, Insightful)
At first, I thought that perhaps it shouldn't have been posted to Slashdot, at least not until the product is ready to ship/buy/download/use. But then again, Slashdot posts stories about interesting OSS/FS projects when they're in a larval stage, provided they're interesting. I see this as about the same thing, except it looks like this LPM software already exists to an extent- you just c
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Slashdot is more like 2nd hand news (and sometimes 3rd and 4th depending on how many dupes)
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I think sometimes they do.
The wording of the blurb makes that pretty clear.
But more often than not, it doesn't.
Deb-Ian (Score:5, Informative)
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If you go through and take a look at what it offers, Progeny's platform management not only makes life much easier for development houses (hopefully attracting more apps), but it also makes Linux (using their componentizatio) a much more bullet-proof solution.
If this catches on, it could become a
Re:Shameless Plug (Score:4, Informative)
Hey, the submitter is not claiming to be a third party.
I thought you would be interested in our new Platform Services product direction (emphasis mine)
Besides, this is Ian Murdock of Debian. Since he's a big name in the free software community, I have no problem with a shameless plug from him. If I guy who's gained a reputation by doing a lot of work uses his status to get some hits and some revenue, well its a nice way of rewarding him.
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Oh well... best to just ignore it until it goes away.
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Security (Score:5, Interesting)
Does anybody know if Progeny has resolved this problem, or just doesn't care?
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Are you scared someone is gonna snoop in on you downloading the latest version of KDE or something?
Re:Security (Score:2)
You mean using HTTPS? I see this mainly as a cheap option to get secure access to a central, trusted package repository. It's not as good as a whole package-signing infrastructure, but it's easier to implement.
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You are free to write and submit patches for that
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Ehmm... That's what signatures are for. You use a signature to detect whether it really comes from Debian.You dont need to encrypt the signature for this to work, all you need is a public/private key-system.
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Only the initial upload by the Debian developer is checked. Subsequent downloads from the mirror cascade by the users are not checked, and users have to trust the integrity of the cascade (and DNS, and their network connection, and so on).
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Our (Progeny's) implementation of APT is reasonably secure.
Regarding package signatures: that's more relevant to the package installation tools than to APT itself, but long ago, Progeny wrote and contributed to Debian debsigs [debian.org], a tool for allowing GPG signatures to be embedded in packages.
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Checking the integrity of the distribution by using the signatures on the Release file is being taken care of(from IRC):
(walters) azeem: my friend and I are almost done with our apt patch. it works now, we just have to clean it up.
(walters) azeem: individual package signatures is another thing though.
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Great news. This solves the "have to trust IP/DNS/mirror cascade" problem. Thanks.
(Meaningful package signatures are a tough problem because of autobuilders.)
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Meaningful package signatures are a tough problem because of autobuilders.
Not too tough, I don't think. You do have to trust the autobuilder boxes, but as long as you can allow that, it's no trouble. The autobuilder should check the signature on the source package (from the maintainer) and then sign the binary package itself, including the signature from the source package.
The users' installation software, of course, just ends up checking the autobuilder's signature, but trusting a small set of build
Is This News Or A Press Release? (Score:2, Insightful)
Please, Slashdot, apply some form of editorial standard to this type of tripe.
Re:Is This News Or A Press Release? (Score:3, Informative)
As to whether or not what we're doing is innovative or cutting edge: Have you looked at what we are doing? What we are doi
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oh and uh thanks for Debian.
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So, basically, you're changing the Linux paradigm by leveraging your knowledge of bla
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Granted, I've just given it a cursory glance at your site, and the answer may be there, but how fine grained is it?
For example, right now I'm needing ACL support for some Samba servers. I can either use MDK and get support out of the box, use SGI's RedHat installer or roll my own. Since I have to maintain several of these boxes I don't want to have to roll my own, and Mandrake is still just a little iffy for me. Can I, using LPM, apply kernel patches & change build options for packages? Other
It's finally happened... (Score:4, Funny)
It was just a matter of time... Slashdot has finally merged into one collective conscious. Maybe now we can take on Microsoft!
Not stable enough? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Not stable enough? (Score:1)
I'd rather someone run Word on CrossOver Xandros than on XP. One step atta time one step atta time...
Re:Not stable enough? (Score:1)
sure progeny's head is ian mur
every school should have one (Score:1)
Similar to the way C. Knopper includes slides from his talks and some (interesting) Free Software-oriented music on Knoppix, such a distro might include
- a "yearbook" with photos of all students who want a photo in there and some fun snapshots
- a selection or two (as oggs) from the school jazz band, choral groups, orchestra, student-formed rock bands, whatever
- a school directory. When I switched s
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How is this not a distribution? (Score:1)
make it sound like you are trading vendor lock in by an "evil distribution" with selling your soul to Progeny.
Can already be done... (Score:1)
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Progeny image vs Ximian logo. (Score:1)
Just mirrored.
It actually thought that I saw a code monkey
http://ptk.progeny.com (Score:1)
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