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Wine 1.0-rc2 Released
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kdawson
on Sat May 24, 2008 03:12 PM
from the very-good-year dept.
from the very-good-year dept.
An anonymous reader writes notes the availability of Wine 1.0-rc2. Binaries for major distros are up now.
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pshuke writes "After 15 years of development, Wine version 1.0 has been released. Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X, OpenGL, and Unix. While perfect windows compatibility has not yet been achieved, full support for Photoshop CS2, Excel Viewer 2003, Word Viewer 2003 and PowerPoint Viewer 2003 have been among the goals prior to the release. For further information about supported applications, head over to the appdb. Get it (source) while it's hot."
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Spill (Score:3)
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Astounding... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Astounding... (Score:5, Insightful)
Perhaps if you were paying attention, you'd know that Wine 1.0 has been 15 years in the making. Furthermore, Wine is hardly "a random open source project", Wine reaching 1.0 is a very significant milestone.
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So from an end-user perspective, the move to 1.0 is not noteworthy as a release. But for developers, you hope that contributing to the project becomes easier with a higher likelihood of forward compatibiliy.
Sweet! (Score:3, Informative)
Are you telling me that it is now possible to run Visual Studio 2005... IN LINUX?
See ya, Windows! I won't be calling you again. Ever.
Re:Sweet! (Score:5, Funny)
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Garbage
(but close to a working version)
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4494 [winehq.org]
I see this a hopeful. We aren't there yet, but I am confident that this will work in a not too large timespan.
really getting good (Score:3, Informative)
If you want to help: (Score:5, Informative)
Go to this page : http://test.winehq.org/data/3c1c6172779510a7ed693d922fb3061948999ea1/ [winehq.org]
Click on the big alphanumerical hyperlink and download the exe.
Give an alias and run it.
This will do conformance tests on your computer and it is very important to the wine project.
Don't try to do anything usefull while testing since it will do a wide range of things including directX tests which will make your screen display colorfields.
If you get errors or crashes, just click on OK or close. This is part of the testing. I'm sure the people working on the wine project will be very happy with it.
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Re:If you want to help: (Score:5, Funny)
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I do that for trivial things I want to share between Windows/Linux/different computers (ie, things not worth getting out a thumb drive for.)
Re:If you want to help: (Score:5, Funny)
The people who do run Linux pretend to run *BSD, to maintain their elite status.
No one actually runs *BSD except Theo de Raadt (he actually runs NetBSD, OpenBSD is a hoax) ~
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Re:If you want to help: (Score:5, Interesting)
http://wiki.winehq.org/MakeTestFailures [winehq.org]
and
http://wiki.winehq.org/ConformanceTests [winehq.org]
For those wondering where the latest data is: in http://test.winehq.org [winehq.org], click on the "Last Modified" column twice, that will bring the latest data to the top.
Thanks to everyone who submitted data so far! We have enough reports for XP now, but any other version of Windows would be handy.
Be sure to run this again when wine-1.0-rc3 comes out next week.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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Catch 22 situation (Score:4, Interesting)
If you look at the AppDb you'll see a lot of apps still not working 100%. F.i. Graphpad prism disappointed me last week. Most of them don't work because of some minor glitz. Before you say, well fix it you stupid, repairing them would introduce new regressions.
I think its mostly because of some "hacks" used by lazy/clever/performance programmer, but therefore very intolerant to a "windows-like" environment.
I hope Wine will get to the point, where it's influence will force programmers to stick to the specifications, as his/her boss is asking:" but will it also run under Wine???".
Ps. I hope the number of RC's will remain below 40.
Re:Catch 22 situation (Score:4, Insightful)
Because Windows itself is incredibly hackish, especially when it comes to backwards compatibility. If Wine was simply striving to be a good Win32 implementation, they'd be pretty much done already -- someone developing an app, from the ground up, to be able to run on Windows and Wine shouldn't have too much more trouble than someone designing a web app, from the ground up, to run in IE and Firefox.
But Wine strives for bug-for-bug compatibility. There are a lot of bugs in Windows, and a lot of apps depend on those bugs.
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Microsoft Office 2003 bug fix (Score:4, Funny)
Thanks, guys! Great work!
Does Wine work... (Score:3, Interesting)
- can you run a windows installer and then run the installed program ?
- can you do this also if the installer puts some dlls in the windows system directory ?
- what kind of programs won't work ?
- Photophop ?
- How much of a performance hit do you take ?
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- You can run a Windows installer, that's the normal way of installing software under Wine, in fact. Standard installers work fine most of the time.
- You need to override some DLLs for some application - fortunately it's easily done through wineconfig, and the Wine App DB is helpful in specifying settings that improve the compatibility for a certain app. Generally, installers that want to put stuff into c:\windows aren't a problem as Wine maintains a virtual C: drive.
- Some
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- can you run a windows installer and then run the installed program ?
Integration is fairly good, for a single user. With the standard Ubuntu Wine package, you can double-click on EXEs to run them. Installers work fine, and at least on Kubuntu, they can install working shortcuts to your desktop, and the Windows start menu is under the K-menu, under "Wine" (so I can go K->Wine->Programs->Accessories->Notepad, for example).
- can you do this also if the installer puts some dlls in the windows system directory ?
Wine lives in ~/.wine, with a fake C drive at ~/.wine/drive_c (by default). So I don't really see any reason this wouldn't work -- the DLL woul
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This hasn't been working for a while now. Konqueror shows .EXEs as Windows Executables... fine. Wine Windows Emulator is that filetype's Preferred Application... fine. And they run just fine from the context menu, too! Just not with a double-click. Dumps this in the console (for example): "run-detectors: unable to find an interpreter for /mnt/windows/Programme/firefox/firefox.exe"... as though I'd tried to directly run just
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There's no inherent performance hit with using Wine, indeed many programs/games run at the same speed (or faster) than on Windows itself. The places where you see slowdown is typically where support is incomplete, possibly causing software fallbacks.