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OpenSuSE to Release Linux Distro for Educators

Posted by Zonk on Tue Jun 26, 2007 09:00 AM
from the not-the-best-conglomerate-word-ever dept.
christian.einfeldt writes "The next version of openSUSE, due out in the fall, will include an add-on CD optimized for educators. According to the Education section of the openSUSE wiki, the openSUSE community sees the add-on as a way to make it easy for school administrators to create both networked systems and stand-alone desktops for teachers and students. To tailor the add-on CD to the needs of educators, the openSUSE community is asking educators and technologists to submit their software successes, applications used, and 'HOW-TOs' for writing applications and using applications. Dubbed the SLEDucator, the package collection is being included as an add-on, as opposed to a new distro or a fork."
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  • the SLEDucator (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Overzeetop (214511) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @09:06AM (#19648415) Journal
    Another stroke of linux name/marketing genius.
    • Another stroke of linux name/marketing genius.

      Agreed. The article also mentions edubuntu... which is a bit of a better name I guess (worth a look too if you run linux and have kids).
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        ...edubuntu...worth a look too if you run linux and have kids..."

        Looked at it, loved it, got it running now on an old laptop for the 4yo. Can't get the wireless networking running, but she's still working through the "games". Wish there were some more puzzles; for some reason they're her favorite.

  • How can it go wrong with a name like that?
  • by Enoxice (993945) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @09:16AM (#19648491) Journal
    Didn't I read a comic book about the SLEDucator? He used his mighty Sledge Hammer of Justice to teach criminals that crime doesn't pay, right?
  • and ride the SLEDucator down the bunny slopes of wintery bliss land!
  • by Kohath (38547) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @09:26AM (#19648567)
    - Does this Linux distribution take the summer off?
    - Does it complain about the pay?
    - Does it blame parents for poor computer performance?
    - Does it have TV commercials promoting itself?
    - Does it claim to be a "professional" distribution even though "home" distributions have better performance?
    - Is it certified?
    - Is the government paying for it?
    - Does it work on 30 documents but tell you that you'd be better off paying more and only doing 25 documents?
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      -school technician
      -uses LTS in school district
      -doesn't get summer off
      -knows techs aren't part of the teachers union
      -no commercials, no crap,no budget, just work as hard as you can
      -doesn't bitch

      Being the tech director (sole technician/network admin/everything guy in a system with 250 desktops, 13 servers, 1200 accounts), and having tested SUSE enterprise for distribution, I know it isn't close to edubuntu as far as being ready for school distribution. I know some CIO's/techs are saying SUSE is ready

      • Here's a guy who does the work in an educational institution and he's got practically no influence on IT.

        I don't have the time, money, or political support

        Because his superior(s) up the chain have got other socio-political arrangements with entrenched software vendors that most likely violate the intent of every corruption law on record.

        Much like Moses bringing back the ten commandments from a mountain top, software probably materializes on his desk regardless of the time he spent creating a report on vario
  • Good approach (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SplatMan_DK (1035528) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @09:27AM (#19648583) Homepage Journal
    Making the CD as an add-on is a great idea. One of the nightmares most educators face when they attempt to introduce Linux into their school is the myriad of distros and choices they have to somehow analyze and understand. By simply adding the tools an educator needs for administrating a collection of Linux computers in a school, they make the distro a lot more attractive.

    Schools generally don't have large IT department loaded with hardcore Linux geeks.
    • One of the nightmares most educators face when they attempt to introduce Linux into their school is the myriad of distros and choices they have

      I've read about 1,000 variations on this sentence over the past few years, and I haven't been able to puzzle it out. Maybe I'm dense, but I've never figured out why diversity is a problem that threatens to make all our heads asplode. You don't see Baskin-Robbins cutting back to serving only vanilla and chocolate because people have avoided their store, heads dizz

  • It would be great if the SUSE folks also made a similar add-on CD for the SMB segment. They face many of the same technical challenges as the schools/educators, just wrapped in different words and scenarios.

    Making tools which allow educators and people in small businesses to deploy and administer a small networked Linux environment is a great idea. And the lack of such tools is often what intimidates non-Linux-geeks from adopting Linux.
    • PSSST! 2002 also called and wanted to say that Debian-Edu/Skolelinux want their project details back :-)

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Ask them, or even better, ask them to release the tools to make your own addons.
      They already released the code to make your own distribution trademark free and information how to make your own openSUSE based ditribution [opensuse.org].

      Join their mailinglist, discuss and you might be amazed of what is possible. The educators part came there because of demand.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        While i do have some understanding of business processed, IT architecture and basic programming I am no way near geeky enough to undertake such a project.

        I am the guy who would be able to push such a product/distro/add-on to the SMBs ... not the guy who can code it. In other words I can increase the use once it is there - but not create it from scratch.

        I will be following SUSE and openSUSE more closely in the future though. I think that the more business-oriented approach that Novell has, strengthens Linux
  • Apple called ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by trolltalk.com (1108067) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @09:34AM (#19648665) Homepage Journal
    Apple called ... they want their 1980's marketing program back ...
  • k12ltsp (Score:4, Insightful)

    by zenray (9262) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @10:48AM (#19649493) Journal
    What the educational field needs is not another GNU/Linux distro for them - there is k12ltsp that's been around a long time. Also the new eumbuntu distro. There exist several school districts that have implemted Linux in some form already. What would be more usefull is a new batch of 'killer apps' that the education field uses. Also cheep traning, support, and maybe a freshmeat type repository of these type of things. What Novell may have is company name brand supporting them.
  • by MadMacSkillz (648319) on Tuesday June 26 2007, @12:20PM (#19650907) Homepage
    Adding another CD won't matter. Linux won't take off in schools for a boatload of reasons, support being perhaps the biggest. We've got former and current classroom teachers running networks in schools. They've got their hands full with OS X Server, they're completely blown away by Windows 2003 Server, and they've got no hope of making Linux work campuswide with all of their current peripherals AND finding replacement software for all of their educational titles AND securing the thing so the kids don't mess it up AND keeping everything up and running AND finding open source alternatives to programs mandated by the state that don't come in anything but Windows and OS X AND... I could go on and on and on. Linux will one day be the number one operating system, or some future OS based on it will. But not today.