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KDE Plasma 5.11 Beta Released (kde.org) 59

JRiddell writes: The original and best linux desktop has a new version, KDE Plasma 5.11 beta is out. UI improvements include a redesigned System Settings and notification history. Privacy improvements include Plasma Vault, which helps you store your files securely. Progress on Wayland support continues with many people now using it as their daily setup. The full changelog can be viewed here.
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KDE Plasma 5.11 Beta Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    I think the GNOME team would disagree. I hear the next version of GNOME is eschewing all legacy widgets, menus, cursors, and other harbingers of uncoolness to all be replaced with hamburger buttons.

    • by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Thursday September 14, 2017 @08:27PM (#55199761) Homepage Journal

      Unless they introduce an app that you click and it orders a hamburger. That'll look like a banana.

    • by lucm ( 889690 ) on Thursday September 14, 2017 @08:56PM (#55199897)

      I think the GNOME team would disagree.

      KDE Plasma is very nice. It is currently the most advanced and polished desktop, of all o/s (not just Linux). Little annoyances (like incompatible clipboards) are a thing of the past. It's a very pleasant environment.

      Between the old school GNOME and the buggy Cinnamon, KDE is a pretty good option.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by dknj ( 441802 )

        KDE has bad memory leaks. I use it extensively as a desktop and not a week goes by without having to jump to a console to kill an app or have to physically reboot because the lock screen has decided to leak all of my physical ram and swap space. Every release I report the bug, every release the bug just moves to another part of the system. I have given up on PIM because akondi is a crashing POS. KDE's KIO plugin architecture is cool but useless because all files must be copied temporarily to be given a

        • I use KDE all the time too and never suffer bad memory leaks. what distro are you using?
        • Kubuntu has been my only desktop for several years, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. That said:

          KDE has bad memory leaks.

          The only really bad memory/CPU leak I have seen in KDE is plasmashell. I have to kill and restart it several times a day because of memory and CPU usage problems. It seems to revolve around the system tray animations. Other than that, I leave it (Kubuntu) running continuously between system upgrades. At least plasmashell can be killed and restarted without interfering with my work flow.

          I have given up on PIM because akondi is a crashing POS.

          Akonadi is a

          • by gosand ( 234100 )

            Kubuntu has been my only desktop for several years, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. That said:

            KDE has bad memory leaks.

            The only really bad memory/CPU leak I have seen in KDE is plasmashell. I have to kill and restart it several times a day because of memory and CPU usage problems.

            Wow. You read what you wrote, right? Kill and restart several times a days?! See, this takes me back. I used to use KDE on Redhat, then on Mandrake, then Kubuntu. This was all over a period of about 10 years, so I don't recall the versions of KDE, but it got progressively worse. I leave my machine on all the time, and I was working from home for about 8 years. My CPUs would randomly just peg at 100% and never come back. Hard boot required. Sometimes during work, sometimes in the middle of the night.

            • I don't have the problems you mention with KDE. It works fine for me.

              But then, I disable almost all of the bells and whistles it comes with. Most of them are either bad or extremely buggy, and the KDE team has been consistently making the situation worse by adding more bloat and useless stuff with each release.

              Especially Akonadi. It's the poster child for "piece of shit software".

            • I don't like anything after KDE 3.5. For that reason, the Trinity Desktop Environment is a godsend.

              LK

      • by nnull ( 1148259 )
        I would agree and I was using it as my defacto desktop, but I had to switch to Cinnamon (It's not too bad really, latest Cinnamon is pretty decent) due to KDE's compositor constantly crashing on me. I'm sure it was fixed already, but kind of like Cinnamon too.
      • I think the GNOME team would disagree.

        KDE Plasma is very nice. It is currently the most advanced and polished desktop, of all o/s (not just Linux). Little annoyances (like incompatible clipboards) are a thing of the past. It's a very pleasant environment.

        Between the old school GNOME and the buggy Cinnamon, KDE is a pretty good option.

        Agreed - I was a dedicated 3.5 user and never followed into KDE 4 - through all its iterations over years I never liked it and used other WMs instead. Installed 5 about six months ago and never felt the need to look elsewhere.

      • by lugat ( 5085839 )
        Sorry but lost faith in the KDE project ... IMHO they're mostly caring for mobile forgetting the normal / power desktop user. And i get the impression that they only test it under virtual machines. This impression comes from observing lot's of bugs related to graphic cards / display. I have been a KDE user from 98 to a year ago. Left it mostly because of this bug, which i just checked right now and is not yet solved after at least two years: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.... [kde.org]
        • The bug you linked to (Bug 35622 - misrenders http://www.angryflower.com/ [angryflower.com]) was opened in 2001 and closed in 2002.

          Are you sure that was the right one?

          (I happily use KDE 5
          8 on a desktop - with Intel graphics - with no issues, it is quite a bit better than 4.x in many ways, and quite pleasant to use. $work issues Macbooks, so I haven't run KDE 5 on a laptop, in my previous job I ran KDE4 on my work-issued laptop with radeon graphics and had no issues)

  • Maybe the first FOSS one.

  • by jmccue ( 834797 ) on Thursday September 14, 2017 @09:36PM (#55200051) Homepage

    How much better is KDE 5.x that KDE 4.x in relation to eye strain ?

    For me, before 4.x, blood would almost pour out of eyes after 30 minutes. 4.x is 100x better (still on 4.x), but no matter what I did after a while I would get a bit of eye strain.

    With GNOME (2.x/3.x) on the same machine I have no issues, so I end up using that or a window manager most of the time. But I do prefer KDE workflow much more.

    BTW, I have download and tried many KDE 4.x themes/color schemes, if it was not for "Lucky Eyes" 4.x would be worse for me.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Maybe there's something wrong with you. I never experience "eye strain" on any of them, even with prolonged use.

    • Regarding eye strain: have you considered inverting your desktop's colors, e.g. with xcalib -i -a (the internal invert effect doesn't play nicely with transparency), probably configured to a shortcut like Meta+Q? This is what I do. In fact: I have to do it to be able to use the computer for a prolonged time. Reading bright text on dark backgrounds significantly reduces eye strain, compared to the opposite (dark text on bright background), which is the default for most desktop environments, applications, web

    • by McLoud ( 92118 )

      I use it everyday for both work and home, breeze dark theme is pretty good for my eyes (and I wear glasses)

  • "The original and best linux desktop"

    that's a matter of opinion...

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