Linux.com Raves About New Snap-Centric 'Nitrux' Distro (linux.com) 137
An anonymous reader quotes Linux.com:
What happens when you take Ubuntu 17.10, a new desktop interface (one that overlays on top of KDE), snap packages, and roll them all up into a pseudo rolling release? You get Nitrux. At first blush, this particular Linux distribution seems more of an experiment than anything else -- to show how much the KDE desktop can be tweaked to resemble the likes of the Elementary OS or MacOS desktops. At its heart, however, it's much more than that... This particular take on the Linux desktop is focused on the portable, universal nature of snap packages and makes use of a unique desktop, called Nomad, which sits atop KDE Plasma 5... The desktop includes a dock, a system/notification tray, a quick search tool (Plasma Search), and an app menu. Of all the elements on the desktop, it's the Plasma Search tool that will appeal to anyone looking for an efficient means to interact with their desktops. With this tool, you can just start typing on a blank desktop to see a list of results. Say, for example, you want to open LibreOffice writer; on the blank desktop, just start typing "libre" and related entries will appear...
Skilled Linux users should have no problem using Nitrux and might find themselves intrigued with the snap-centric Nomad desktop. The one advantage of having a distribution centered around snap packages would be the ease with which you could quickly install and uninstall a package, without causing issues with other applications... In the end, Nitrux is a beautiful desktop that is incredibly efficient to use -- only slightly hampered by an awkward installer and a lack of available snap packages. Give this distribution a bit of time to work out the kinks and it could become a serious contender.
The GUI-focused distro even includes Android apps in the menu -- although Linux.com's reviewer notes that "on two different installations, I have yet to get this feature to work. Even the pre-installed Android apps never start."
Skilled Linux users should have no problem using Nitrux and might find themselves intrigued with the snap-centric Nomad desktop. The one advantage of having a distribution centered around snap packages would be the ease with which you could quickly install and uninstall a package, without causing issues with other applications... In the end, Nitrux is a beautiful desktop that is incredibly efficient to use -- only slightly hampered by an awkward installer and a lack of available snap packages. Give this distribution a bit of time to work out the kinks and it could become a serious contender.
The GUI-focused distro even includes Android apps in the menu -- although Linux.com's reviewer notes that "on two different installations, I have yet to get this feature to work. Even the pre-installed Android apps never start."
you can just start typing on a blank desktop (Score:2)
The desktop is the new terminal, with autocomplete?
Re: you can just start typing on a blank desktop (Score:1)
Complete with systemd.
Re: "Nitrux"? Sounds like a German slang word... (Score:1)
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Re: "Beautiful"? What? (Score:2)
Re: "Beautiful"? What? (Score:4, Funny)
To LTE, or not to LTE, that is the question.
It is kind of a new distribution right?.
3G should be good enough for anyone.
Re: "Beautiful"? What? (Score:1)
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I just figured LTS had acquired a new name while I wasn't looking. I guess not.
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Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beer-holder.
I have been using KDE since its beginning, every foray into other desktops have made be go back to KDE, which I set up as I like it, colors, icons etc.
I have NEVER seen a prepackaged desktop that I liked. Every effort to design some desktop theme will result in a failure. This is Linux, you customize it, it is not Apple "look and feel" shit. I'm in charge, desktop themers go make yourself useful with something else.
The current trend of desktops are very white, s
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Desktop Linux or Android? (Score:2)
Anbox (Score:3)
Ideally, one would be able to install an Android container to run Android apps on a desktop Linux operating system [omgubuntu.co.uk]. Only app publishers' dependence on Google Play Store and Google Play Services keeps this from being a reality.
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I wanted to try it, but there is no .iso to install with. Only some weird .img file for a USB stick. Eventually found a VirtualBox appliance that converted over to VMWare okay.
It's okay... the visuals are fine. I mean, it's a desktop, I only use it to launch apps and open terminal windows. The bundled apps are mostly the usual crapware, form over function, but you can install better ones. And as ever, the mouse wheel doesn't work very well without hacks.
So basically it's a pretty average distro with an anno
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I wanted to try it, but there is no .iso to install with. Only some weird .img file for a USB stick.
Welcome to the 21st century!
1) Copy image file to USB stick
2) Reboot, enter bios, make the USB stick the first boot device
3) Continue boot
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Welcome to the 21st century!
enter bios, make the USB stick the first boot device
On my shiny MacBook Pro I want to run it under a VM.
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Then mount the image in your VM as a virtual USB Mass Storage device. Or write it to a physical flash drive and enable USB passthrough in your VM. Both .iso and .e4fs are disk images; they just use a different file system.
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What tool do I use to copy it? Why can't I just boot it directly in a VM?
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Why can't I just boot it directly in a VM?
You can. <facepalms at some of the replies in this thread>
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How do I boot the image in VM Ware without using a USB drive?
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How do I boot the image in VM Ware without using a USB drive?
Boot from the image without copying it to the USB key.
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VMWare does not support ".IMG" image files. You have to convert them manually.
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Use KVM.
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https://sourceforge.net/projec... [sourceforge.net]
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LOL
How is this flamebait. This guy is hilarious
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How DARE you suggest the emperor actually has no clothes on! Can you not see the finery he's wearing?
Command line (Score:5, Informative)
Funny, when I start typing on the command line, and hit tab, the same thing happens. Only then, after I select the application, I'm free to type the name of the file that I want to open, too. And any options that I want to select.
And, from what I recall, those aspects were present in the command line, oh, back when I started with TOPS-20 in the mid 1980s, and might not have been new, then. Indeed, as I recall with the TOPS-20 command line, you were free to type a question mark at the start of any argument to see what the possible values were; now THAT was a sweet thing, because it eliminated 75% of the times I needed to look up the documentation.
And, if the reader does not care to recognize computer history quite that old because of some encephalopathic imperfection, add-ons like Launchy have been doing exactly the same thing (type on the Windows desktop automatically engages searching for applications) for just over a decade now (since early 2007), and works under Linux, too.
So, new feature? In no way or sense, except a perhaps incredibly narrow one such as "the developers never heard of it because they're too inexperienced."
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If tab completion were good enough, I wouldn't need to remember whatever soffice is calling itself this year.
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Type it enough, and you will pretty quickly. You should know the name of the software you install.
Since neither my job nor my hobbies involve typesetting, and my resume is in LaTeX—I install/upgrade openoffice more often than I actually use it. I'll save my cache space for something more interesting.
in before the systemd complaints... (Score:1)
Waiting for the inevitable "whelp, it uses systemd, so I'll never bother with it", or similar.
We get it. Systemd is the new evil. I even empathize a little. Doesn't mean that efforts trying to make desktop Linux should be crapped on, too.
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Please tell me, how can (un)installing one application cause issues with other applications that will not be caused when both applications are installed as snaps?
Explanation here [snapcraft.io]. Basically, Snaps include most of the dependencies they need to run, so installing or upgrading one package is much less likely to break another by changing system-wide library versions and other dependencies. Probably uses a lot more disk space, but that's cheap enough these days that it's probably worth using it to avoid the Linux equivalent of DLL Hell.
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Except the last time I remember actually having a problem like that was ~2007. It's really only an issue for proprietary applications that are no longer maintained, and who uses those on Linux?
Re: Issues with other application (Score:1)
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A complete disgrace when a bunch of virgins who jack off to anime children being raped by tentacles can do a better job than you at setting up a proper looking UI.
"Sir, your ideas intrigue me. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?"
Welcome to Tentux, the UI driven by Anime and tentacles!
Their site is badly designed (Score:2, Informative)
nxos.org disables scrolling (except on mobile, apparently) so that text is cut off at the bottom if the browser viewport isn't as tall as the designer expected.
Seeing that they can't design Web pages properly hardly inclines me to try the software.
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>"I agree completely. That is exactly the kind of website I hate with a fiery passion. People who design websites like that should die slowly from a painful disease."
Yeah, I hate websites like this:
Resource Limit Is Reached
The website is temporarily unable to service your request as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later.
'cause that is all I get!
Re: Their site is badly designed (Score:1)
Meh (Score:1)
Docks need to die (Score:3)
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Agreed. Too much focus on what looks elegant from what works as a user.
Icons, a Menu Button, and a terminal field on a taskbar work great. Just get out of the way.
Re:Docks need to die (Score:5, Interesting)
Every UX designer in the world needs to read The Design of Everyday Things. It explains at length how oversimplifying an interface can greatly increase its functional complexity.
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Linux features amuse me (Score:5, Funny)
not just this one, but they all do something similar
"enjoy your music" like holy fucking shit finally an operating system that plays music, thank god its 3rd bullet point on the homepage
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Only very recently have the MP3 patents expired in Slashdot's home country.
Important info: (Score:3)
The distro uses Systemd [distrowatch.com] and it's .deb based so it's passing on all the Ubuntu/Debian packages that require Systemd as well. Not a troll, just info for people who don't want Systemd.
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On top of KDE? (Score:5, Interesting)
...one that overlays on top of KDE...
The last time I used KDE (about a couple years ago), I dismissed it as being too bloated to survive. Now a distribution is taking KDE and building atop it? Has KDE gone through a significant slimming down recently?
Re:On top of KDE? (Score:5, Insightful)
Has KDE gone through a significant slimming down recently?
KDE has been less bloated than Gnome for many years.
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KDE, has long since been quite bloated as well as suffering from interaction with a lot of "normal" gtk based apps: (Think Firefox). When one app has its native UI built in one toolkit and another has it's UI built with another toolkit, you aren't going to get a seamless look and feel. My problem with KDE (And I've used it on and off since KFM 1.0) is that a lot of the main apps I use are GTK based; whenever you use KDE it always feels a bit slow and hoggish. The themes never seem quite well thought out
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Well pretty much every desktop system is bloated now, because they solve an obsolete problem: turning a desktop or laptop into a kind of switchboard for all your organizational and information needs.
That's an obsolete problem because most (although of course not all) people have decided to use their phones for this purpose. Desktops and laptops are used in a more task-oriented way in which distractions aren't welcome.
I personally switched to the i3 tiling wm last year, and I've been amazed how little I mi
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KDE turds (Score:1)
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Since it's built on KDE, I'm going to go ahead and assume it's going to run like a turd on less powerful machines.
Nonsense, KDE runs nicely even on wimpy machines like ancient netbooks. You might want to turn off some 3D desktop effects.
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I've never been able to use KDE on anything low powered and have it work smoothly, but perhaps things are drastically better now.
I can still run modern KDE on an ancient Pentium M. You must be "holding it wrong".
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It depends on your definition of 'work'. It will be functional, but elements will take time to draw and it will get in your way.
OK, let's define "works" as "works well". No, the 2D UI does not take significant time to draw, unless you have misconfigured your effects settings.
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plasma desktop search alone is enough to turn the disk into a dog. And to add insult to injury they try to make it difficult to turn off because reasons
Somewhat true, at least in the past. I used to always turn it off (contrary to your claim, that is easy) but just now I noticed I have it on, with no apparent overhead. Now turning it off for comparison. The point is, you can turn it off. No idea what you're going on about.
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Since it's built on KDE, I'm going to go ahead and assume it's going to run like a turd on less powerful machines.
*Minimum* requirement is a 2.66 GHz Quad Core "or better" and 4GB RAM, so, yeah. You are correct.
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I've got a netbook I bought for $295 in 2009, for which the 3D graphics driver was dropped 7 years ago. It has no trouble running kubuntu.
awful web design (Score:3)
I hope the web design isn't a preview for their user interface, because it is terrible.
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Website is now slashdotted (Score:2)
Snap seems like a bad idea (Score:2)
Doesn't it just bring monolithic apps bundled with libraries that can't be individually updated except by the person building the snap package? Sounds like a security risk. Is that the case or am I misunderstanding?
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Nope I like Slackware. I like how you install a base system and then add the programs you need. Instead of these distros with six terrible web browsers and 20 half assed clones of the same text editor.
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In Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora/CentOS please specify which "20 half assed clones of same text editor" are you referring to?
Most distros have same packages, written by other people not even related to distributions.
But for some reason the rest of the Linux user community is forced to deal with different package names, different package managers, missing or incompatible packages, jank on jank inside of a jank 2 miles outside of jank central - its just offensive to the user. A total disregard for _my_ personal time w
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Wrong.
Dont conflate context with standards.
When I'm using a Linux distribution I expect it to be working and to have been tested by average-to-above-average-competence developers.
When you come to Slashdot and you decide to post and read comments, you are agreeing to a social contract that stipulates that your opinion will be challenged, and your stupidity highlighted.
Re: No thanks (Score:1)
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I'm not sure if you responding to me, but I have no qualms with Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/CentOS/KDE/RPM/APT/QT5/GTK3.
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Not Slackware. We need a DIY distro. Sure, it's a niche and most people won't want it, but it needs to exist.
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Citation of what? Someone else's opinion? Wrong.
When you argue with me, you argue with my opinion.
Bringing 'citations' is conceding the point that your opinion is not enough on its own merit.
Please elevate your game and bring some substance to this conversation.
Thanks
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