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GNOME 3.22 Desktop Environment Officially Released (softpedia.com) 121

Posted by msmash from the linux-ftw dept.
Reader prisoninmate writes: Today, September 21, is a big day for Linux users, especially those who love the GNOME desktop environment, as the next major release is now officially available. Yes, that's right, we're talking about GNOME 3.22, dubbed Karlsruhe after the German host city of the annual GUADEC (GNOME Users And Developers European Conference) event, which took place last month between August 12-14, 2016. Prominent features of the GNOME 3.22 desktop environment include batch rename functionality and support for integration of compressed files built directly into the Nautilus file manager, a new Week View, support for alarms, and the ability to drag and drop events to the GNOME Calendar, as well as an updated GNOME Music app that supports handling of music libraries with thousands of tracks. There are lots of improvements for the GNOME Games app as well, as it now offers support for numerous retro gaming consoles. Among other improvements, we can mention Flatpak integration, photo sharing, revamped GNOME Software app with support for firmware updates, redesigned keyboard settings and a brand new GNOME Control Center panel, and a redesigned dconf Editor. A video overview of the new features of GNOME 3.22 is available on the official website.
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  • Nautilus (Score:5, Insightful)

    by flyingfsck ( 986395 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @01:35PM (#52932385)
    Wot? They added features to Nautilus? That is unpossible.

    • Re:Nautilus (Score:5, Funny)

      by kat_skan ( 5219 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @02:26PM (#52932887)

      They had to. They were running out of things to remove.

    • If only they could restore the type-ahead functionality they removed in 3.6, I would be satisfied. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu... [launchpad.net]

      • It's been replaced by search and after a few rough releases it got to a fast and working state. Have you tried GNOME 3.20 or later? If you still have things you used to be able to do that you can't anymore, please report them to developers instead of a rant on a random website such as slashdot.

        • I wanted to upgrade my system* before I replied to you... I was using 3.18, now I've upgraded to 3.22: search still sucks. Before 3.6 it worked perfectly like I wanted, it emulated my terminal use case - I know there is a a folder named "stuff", so I type "cd s[tab][enter]" and there it, in less than half a second I'm there. With older nautilus I just typed "s[enter]" and there I was, same speed. But not anymore.

          And I *did* report to the developers, like the hundreds of others who were sufficiently annoyed

        • Update: I couldn't fix the shell extensions, so I gave up on Gnome (the alt+tab behavior was a deal-breaker) . I tried Cinnamon for the first time, and I was able to configure it just the way I need it. And Nemo has my beloved type-ahead, it is perfect! I guess I have to thank you, I was not planning on upgrading Gnome before your suggestion. :D

  • People still use Gnome? (Score:3)

    by SumDog ( 466607 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @01:35PM (#52932397) Homepage Journal

    When I first saw Gnome 3 I thought it was a great time to try tiling window managers. Four years later, I'm still using i3.

    I've slowly watched the GTK3 toolkit get more and more horrible.

    Who's funding Gnome today anyway?

    • Who's funding Gnome today anyway?

      RedHat.

      Even RedHat, however, doesn't use the default Gnome SHELL in RHEL. They run "Classic Mode" with a top and bottom panel that looks an awful lot like Gnome 2.

    • The answer to this question is available in the annual report [gnome.org].

  • Imagine (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @01:49PM (#52932529) Journal
    Imagine if they'd spent the last decade making Gnome better, refining it, finding the annoying details, instead of spinning in circles. It would be the best desktop out there right now.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by DNS-and-BIND ( 461968 )
      That doesn't scratch the developer's itch, though. That sounds an awful lot like commercial software development. When open source developers do something, it's to scratch an itch that they're having. Force them to attend to the user's needs and they will desert your project immediately. Then you'll have no developers at all.
      • Hard to say. There are definitely open source projects that do that kind of thing (openBSD, for example, or git for another example). I'm inclined to think that it's more due to the quality of the developers doing the work, not something innate to open source.

        Also, Gnome is commercial software development, it's funded by RedHat......that's why they have an open bug list a mile long.

    • Imagine if they'd spent the last decade making Gnome better, refining it, finding the annoying details, instead of spinning in circles. It would be the best desktop out there right now.

      It would be the best desktop out there because they all spent the last decade spinning in circles. GNOME wasn't the only one.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by SEE ( 7681 )

      As long as we're imagining, let's imagine if they'd spent the last two decades following through the original GNU plan to build a desktop on top of GNUStep, so our long-refined desktop environment sits on top of an API and object model source-compatible with macOS.

    • Yes, imagine. Imagine if people actually did some research before posting clueless comments about the bugs being fixed. Imagine if people looked at the global stats on the GNOME bugzilla instead of just ranting that their pet bug has been open for ten years. Imagine if people actually tried GNOME for a bit instead of just dismissing it because obviously it sucks. Imagine if slashdot didn't rate +5 Insightful comment that show no insight whatsoever. That would be good indeed.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sad_ ( 7868 )

      If you want that, you can use MATE.

  • Bad name (Score:4, Funny)

    by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @01:52PM (#52932559)

    dubbed Karlsruhe after the German host city of the annual GUADEC (GNOME Users And Developers European Conference) event

    Instead of Karlsruhe, they should name it "Pyongyang", as the GNOME team's mentality towards their users is far more similar to that country.

  • I was a major GNOME hater when they transitioned to v.3 and I stuck with MATE. I just recently tried the beta for 3.22 though and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, you need to install a bunch of extensions and gnome-tweak-tool for it to be usable. But it looks very nice on a HiDPI screen, and I very much appreciate that the keyboard shortcuts to any GNOME app can be displayed with Ctrl+?. Also I didn't experience any crashes or bugs in my time of using it, so it seems pretty

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      if it's not bad.. that means it is time for gnome 4 to be released.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jwymanm ( 627857 )
      I agree. I enjoy gnome on all of my desktop (arch/antergos) linux installations at work and at home. I can go weeks/months without needing to reboot and it is very keyboard friendly. Some of the extensions are awesome as well (dash to dock, shellshape, topicons plus, pixelsaver). I do agree it would be close to crappy without them but I do not believe that is really a bad thing since I have to customize other GUIs about the same if not more. I recently added that float youtube across workspace extension - a

    • Re:Honestly it's not bad (Score:4, Funny)

      by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:17PM (#52933333)

      I just recently tried the beta for 3.22 though and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, you need to install a bunch of extensions and gnome-tweak-tool for it to be usable.

      Exactly!

      Similarly, after years of being a hater of Chevrolets, I just bought a new Cruze, and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, so I had to drop in a different engine, put in some new seats (which required some welding), transplant infotainment (nav/radio) system from another car, and to make that work I had to replace the whole dashboard. I also swapped out the ugly-ass wheels and put some new brakes on it while I was at it, and repainted it too because Chevy's available paint schemes were all horrible. But other than those minor modifications, it's not too bad a car!

      • Yes, I see your point. But I've already accepted that many programs I rely on for my work (Firefox, LibreOffice, Thunderbird, KeePassX) need to be extensively configured, so I'd be inconsistent if I damned GNOME for it.

      • I just recently tried the beta for 3.22 though and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, you need to install a bunch of extensions and gnome-tweak-tool for it to be usable.

        Exactly!

        Similarly, after years of being a hater of Chevrolets, I just bought a new Cruze, and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, so I had to drop in a different engine, put in some new seats (which required some welding), transplant infotainment (nav/radio) system from another car, and to make that work I had to replace the whole dashboard. I also swapped out the ugly-ass wheels and put some new brakes on it while I was at it, and repainted it too because Chevy's available paint schemes were all horrible. But other than those minor modifications, it's not too bad a car!

        Actually, Gnome 3.22 is to my liking mostly. Like every Gnome 3.22 user, I like leather seats (not standard Chevy stuff), A self parking option, air conditioning etc.
        Tweaks are a way to personalize the Gnome 3.22 interface.
        And by the way, slowly, very slowly, what was wrenched from Nautilus (Files), is being restored. I give Gnome a plus++.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by HiThere ( 15173 )

      Is that "Gnome tweak" tool the one they were promising to discontinue in a "future version" when they released Gnome3? Or is it a new version that they haven't yet promised that about?

      Gnome3 is not yet as good as Gnome2. Kde4 is not yet as good as KDE3. The problem is that the main programs I use are the accessory programs, and they no longer work with the earlier versions.

      That said, KDE4 is currently, to my taste, the best choice. It sure isn't Gnome. I sometimes try xfce or LXDE. I'm not sure I've e

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by geek ( 5680 )

        I tried plasma 5 and it's just so bug ridden I can't use it as a daily driver. I liked gnome 3.20 on fedora but I started having issues with the system not recognizing my keyboard after waking from sleep. Ultimately I said fuck it, DE's on Linux are a fucking joke right now so I just use a windows 10 box and a bash prompt.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @02:09PM (#52932697)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • 2.x and then MATE are the real Gnome.

  • TL;DR: I don't like the newer GUI styles. So, I don't care.
    1. 1: I don't like how everything goes full screen. Unless I am gaming alone, I have other apps open that I need to see and to have easy access.
    2. 2: I don't like an exceeding number of sub-categories of categories. Some things belong in more than one of those sub-category. Now I get to guess where you have hidden it.
    3. 3: Search engine based app launching? Really? Now I have to type to find most any of the apps that I don't use on a regular basis b

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by doom ( 14564 )
      The really important thing though is to remove the menu pad at the top and hide everything under a hamburger icon. You need to add more clicks to every operation so the user gets to feel like they're doing something, see?

    • TL;DR: I don't like the newer GUI styles. So, I don't care.

      1. 1: I don't like how everything goes full screen. Unless I am gaming alone, I have other apps open that I need to see and to have easy access.

      You appear not to be using Gnome3. Maybe you tried Unity by accident?

  • Broken link (Score:3)

    by s1d3track3D ( 1504503 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:13PM (#52933293)
    and just like gnome, the link is broken...
  • Make GNOME great again! /ducks

  • Auto-extracting of archives (Score:4, Interesting)

    by steveha ( 103154 ) on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:30PM (#52935519) Homepage

    I watched the video showing new features, and one of the new features is: you double-click on an archive and it automatically extracts the contents in the same directory as the archive.

    I don't want that. I want it to not work that way. In fact I want it to work exactly like it works in my MATE desktop: I can double-click an archive and it opens in an archive manager app, and there is an "Extract" button in that app.

    I could see putting a right-click menu option "Extract..." if it's so freaking important to extract an archive with minimal steps. But making the default for double-clicking be to extract in place? No no no.

    • I don't want that. I want it to not work that way. In fact I want it to work exactly like it works in my MATE desktop: I can double-click an archive and it opens in an archive manager app, and there is an "Extract" button in that app.

      Then use MATE. Despite what some seem to think, GNOME people are okay with people using other environments. To each their own. User research showed that people actually don't want an other app, they just want to access the content of the archive.

      I could see putting a right-click menu option "Extract..." if it's so freaking important to extract an archive with minimal steps. But making the default for double-clicking be to extract in place? No no no.

      That's how it worked before (which shows how well you actually know GNOME). That behaviour can be restored by unchecking a box in the preferences (WAT? GNOME letting users change a setting?).

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by steveha ( 103154 )

        User research showed that people actually don't want an other app, they just want to access the content of the archive.

        Can you please give me a pointer to where the results of the user research were published? I would like to read up on the research that the GNOME team uses to make their decisions.

        Frankly, I didn't think the GNOME team did any research anymore. I read about the reason why the "minimize" button was removed [gnome.org] for the GNOME 3.x release and it was one developer making a decision after talking t

  • I gave gnome3 time to prove itself until last month. I never did like gnome 3.. stupid ass interface and even with tweaks its still lacking in functionality.. I finally jumped ship to cinnamon desktop on fedora.. agreed it uses some components from gnome 3 but its way better... cant believe gnome 3 never got better with any of the releases.. Iam still confused with the audience.. do they intend it for touch screen or keyboard.. the entire desktop space is just wasted .. no way to do anything besides a wall
  • Just get one fucking interface, stop changing things and let us get on with using it instead of changing things every fucking day. Do you have any idea how harmful this is for adoption.

    I don't even know the name of the desktop environment that I'm using, and I care less. I just want to not have to re-learn it at some random time in the future, chosen by someone I've never heard of for reasons I don't care about.

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